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Started by Priyanka, Jul 01, 08:13 AM 2013

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maestro

you cannot say what is what...check was done long ago ..but when you play RNG you will face more strong variations coming one after another due to inbuild money managing program to recover any loses..but after all spins will fit any random testing..
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

Priyanka

Thanks maestro. I think this response clarifies lots of doubts I had in mind and help put things in perspective.
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Chrisbis

If only I looked at both sets of spins!! lol

U didn't say anything wrong Yanks, it was an error by Stevie Wonder, forum owner.
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ddarko

Quote from: Priyanka on Jul 05, 04:34 AM 2013
Folks, Don't take me wrong. I am trying to learn the tricks of trade and I need to know if there is anyone who can differentiate between the RNG spins and spins produced by wheel (whether dealer or airball), so that I can learn from them.


If somebody could do this, what are you going to learn ? How will this help you at roulette ?

Priyanka

Quote from: ddarko on Jul 05, 08:35 AM 2013
If somebody could do this, what are you going to learn ? How will this help you at roulette ?
Oh dear Darko!
It is a bit difficult to explain what I learn in a generic manner, as my thinking gets shaped by what I hear and listen from people. But your question deserves an answer and I will try to explain a bit specifically by giving a sample set of what I have learnt so far on this topic. Obviously, it might evolve as I read more and others share their opinion.

Learning 1: It is impossible to distinguish between RNG spins and real wheel spins when taken in isolation. It is not possible to differentiate the random produced by RNG with the random produced by real wheel.
Learning 2: The money management built in the RNG, tries to pull back money through manipulation of spins to create variations. It works much like a slotting machine which is programmed to give out only a % of what it takes in. This is not the case with live wheels.
Learning 3 : BV produces 10 spins at a time as opposed to many other RNGs around. So it is really a borderline or stands in between a slotting machine and live wheel.

I don't want to write down all I have learnt and bore everyone. But darko, hope this provides an answer to your question. Let me know if otherwise.
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ddarko

@ Priyanka

ok, thanks for replying to me I just don't see it is all....

RNG is in my world a slot machine as you state in Learning 2, while live dealer isn't n therefore a totally different animal.

It's apples and oranges as far as I'm concerned.

You said somewhere about your "linear" thinking, it will be interesting to see if that's the strongest point or Achilles heel of your Roulette journey.

Happy hunting either way.....

TwoCatSam

Yanks

On BV you can set it to give you 60 spins at a time.  Also you can change the spin by adding to the number they would have given you.  Bayes says they are etched in stone and I trust both him and Ralph. 

I do not feel BV tries to "yank back" the money you have won.  Random certainly does, but it does that to me a Dublin, too.

This is not a commercial for BV, but I've played both types enough to see no difference.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Priyanka

Thanks Sam. See it now :)
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Proofreaders2000

Quote from: Priyanka on Jul 07, 09:15 PM 2013
Thanks Sam. See it now :)

Looks like you found a veteran player to learn from.  :thumbsup:

As for RNG here's a idea to ponder.  Record the times you play RNG, notice the numbers
that show during those sessions.  From day to day (during those exact times) see if those numbers show or not.  If the same numbers show there's a likelihood those numbers will continue to show while betting.

TwoCatSam

Proof

That is a nice compliment, but let me tell the truth on Sam.

I have a terrible time just staying even!  Although I know it is not true, it does seem the casino--whichever one it is--tries to "yank back" my winnings.  I know this is random playing out and nothing more.

I am going to return to the research of my first belief:  Whatever you bet--ECs, dozens, columns, numbers--must have some reason to hit at a greater rate than then numbers you don't pick.

Example:  If you pick 18 numbers on the BVNZ wheel and you want to win consistently, those numbers must have a reason to hit rather than the other 18.  Otherwise, you are just hoping Lady Luck will smile on you.

I know there are those who claim that if you wait long enough, the "regression toward the mean" will kick in and propositions that have slept will wake up and shine.  The operative words in that last sentence are "long enough".  That reprises the old saying:  The wheel can stay erratic longer than you can stay solvent.

I am quickly coming to the conclusion that riding the current wave will be the only thing that truly wins with the minimum of luck.  That is to say, we should sail with the wind and not against it.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

ddarko

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 08, 10:18 AM 2013
Whatever you bet--ECs, dozens, columns, numbers--must have some reason to hit at a greater rate than then numbers you don't pick.


Very wise words Sam but so very very difficult to answer......

Chris555p

Totally agree with Sam based upon my experience in the forum and
playing roulette for several years.  I also add that IMHO the only way I
stay on top of the game is by playing EC's, dozens, columns, DS and other
methods that experienced members have kindly put on the forum.


Turner

I have definitely started looking at odds more than bet selection on single numbers.


ddarko

Quote from: Turner on Jul 08, 06:18 PM 2013
I have definitely started looking at odds more than bet selection on single numbers.

Could pls expand on what you mean by this Turner ??

Thanking you in advance.

Priyanka

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jul 08, 04:19 AM 2013
Looks like you found a veteran player to learn from.  :thumbsup:

As for RNG here's a idea to ponder.  Record the times you play RNG, notice the numbers
that show during those sessions.  From day to day (during those exact times) see if those numbers show or not.  If the same numbers show there's a likelihood those numbers will continue to show while betting.
Thanks Proof. So, you believe there is a kind of timestamp that goes behind the logic for random generation?
Disclaimer : Roulette systems are subject to laws of probability. If you are not sure about the effects of it, please refer to link:://:.genuinewinner.com/truth. Don't get robbed by scammers.

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