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Which online casino is the best + Invincible system to reveal

Started by steven1212, Jan 31, 01:39 PM 2014

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Azim

Quote from: vladir on Feb 14, 06:29 AM 2014
Hello again,

I attach here an excel file I created that we can use for the "dynamic file" idea. It's quite simple actually and not that much work, if you play online. The file still needs to be populated, I haven't done that yet.

Two columns are in the file, "Initial Sequence" and "Betting Sequence". The Inicital Sequence are all the possible sequences of 6.  The Betting Sequence is the corresponding betting we will make (and also what we will update after playing). It's very easy to search, just use the filter in the Initial Sequence Column to search for the sequence you are currently playing.

For example, say we have 1a1a1a . I search for 1a1a1a in the Inicital Sequence column and I see "2a1c3". This is the 5 number sequence we will play in the next spins. After the 5 actual spins, we update the entry for this Inicital Sequence specifc pattern that originated our play. Lets say we actually got 2b2c1. We replace 2a1c3 for 2b2c1 .

I hope this serves as a base for further developments and to clarify some misconceptions from my previous explanation of what a dynamic file is.


Cheers


For those that want to use this system/method dynamically.

Here is another way to beat the online Randomness.

Download about 10,000 number's from random org, prior to playing. Populate your spreadsheet.
This way there is less chance of being tracked, not that I am saying online casino's are rigged.  But that will resolve a lot of issues in your mind.  You can't be that unlucky by waiting 7 spin matches and playing 5.  YOU REALLY REALLY HAVE TO BE UNLUCKY NOT TO HIT.

Forget playing with static data. Change your data prior to playing. IT WILL BE COMPLETE RANDOM.

I am not sure, if Crystal is up to it or not.  He can modify his program to allow a file to be loaded and create a dynamic look up file.

I would have done it but don't want to step on Crystals foot considering he has already started with it.

If Crystal says no. I can get something out by next Sunday.
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

Azim

Quote from: steven1212 on Feb 16, 05:17 PM 2014
Will you look at this! Someone finally diecided to show up.
Colbster, did you think for a second before you posted ? It doesn't look like it. You found time to see how much I posted, but did you even check when I joined the forum? One week before I revealed the system. Why? Because that's very little after I found out about this forum and discovered  the matrix systems. JL and atlantis could not have complained about me at the time they were revealing their systems because I didn't exist here yet.
I discovered all this very recently and the first thing I did was to register I give back to the community all that I had just learned in the form of the invincible system. I did not post in the other threads because when I discovered them they were a few years old an inactive so I opted for a fresh new start.

So don't tell me I was  ungrateful. You are. And next time you accuse me of something please think twice before because that was ridiculous.
And there is a reason why people should give back. Because I asked them. My condition for posting the system was that others contribute. I don't think it's much to ask for people to drop a not and say if the system works for them or not. Just that and nothing more. But for some reasons only that people for who it doesn't work take the time to say. That's why I'm pissed....


Steven,

Relax.  It's up to an individual to do whatever they want.  YOU CAN'T CALL PEOPLE UNGRATEFUL.

Everyone here, will agree to what I have to say:
BY THE WAY: NOT BLAMING ANYONE.  WHEN I JOINED THIS FORUM PEOPLE DID THINK I WAS OUT TO SCAM THEM. THEY STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO THINK THAT WAY. DOES THAT MEAN I STOP AND DON'T CONTRIBUTE.

YOU OR ANYONE WILL NEVER WIN LONG TERM IN ROULETTE UNLESS YOU PLAY 4-5 SYSTEMS IN ONE SITTING. THAT'S NOT HUMANLY POSSIBLE WITHOUT HELP.

SO DON'T START SAYING PEOPLE READING THIS THREAD AND ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING.
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

holymoly

What the deal with the caps?

You dont have to shout,we can all SEE, just fine. :smile:


TwoCatSam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Buffster


Azim

Quote from: holymoly on Feb 16, 06:13 PM 2014
What the deal with the caps?

You don't have to shout,we can all SEE, just fine. :smile:

Just trying to get your attention!!!! :wink:
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

TwoCatSam

Buff

I once worked for a finance company.  A butcher came in for a loan.  The manager would not loan him money and said, "all butchers are drunks."  I took him to task for that statement and soon quit my job there.

I simply detest painting anything or anyone with the same brush. 

But thanks for your concern.  My veins are fine, thank you!!

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

vladir

Quote from: steven1212 on Feb 16, 05:28 PM 2014
Vladir I don't remember you disagreeing with me when I used to say that people were ungrateful. Perhaps that's because at that point you needed my help and my system and today you won't. You and the rest make me regret I ever shared it because I knew how all that was going to end.

Thank goodness for me, All the thread I read before posting didn't only inspired me for the system l b for something  else very important. If you go back to the double street 6x6 system by Hermes (which was very good although people were ungrateful to him to) Hermes inspired me doing something genius. He knew how you were and decided to give you his system but not all of it, so that the ungrateful ones would still have to work hard and could not just take/steal something they didn't deserve. What he did is that he kept a key element to his system secret.
Unfortunately for you, and choose to believe me of not, this is what i did. I kept away from you all the invincible magic ingredient from this system.
It has to do with pattern selection and trust me you can think all your life you won't find out, just like you would have never invented yourself my system.
From the example that amiwrong has given it is clearly obvious that this ingredient is what made the difference. And it is the reason why he occurred a loss on the first day and why i didn't after one month of hours of continuous play!

Do you want to guess the worst news now? You will NEVER know what it is. NEVER!
Because I warned you and you continued anyway. You will never know because this is the very last time I lost in thread.

I do not need you to make this system work. I needed you to help find its flaws and overcome the table limit issue. You were happy to get the system for free but asking you to share your results with me was too much to ask.

You ruined your chance to know how it works.

Cheers

It seems you took what I said as a personal ofense... That's very unfortunate, but if that's the only thing you understood from what I told you, I can't change that.

All you said thereafter seems to come from a place of anger and regret, full of falacies and false conclusions... I'm really sorry for that, but I don't believe it's my fault you feel that way...

QuoteVladir I don't remember you disagreeing with me when I used to say that people were ungrateful.
No, but I was the first to congratulate you for doing it inspite of ungratefull people. Not because of the system, but because you acted correctly.  I usually focus on the positive, not the negative... my personal choice, wich must not be confused as not disagreeing with you when you say that people were ungrateful.


QuotePerhaps that's because at that point you needed my help and my system and today you won't.

I'm sorry once again by not agreeing with you, but I didn't needed your help... I didn't asked you for help and I'm not needy in any way whatsoever. I was at most curious wich is a completly different story. And I told you what I knew about PP withouth expecting anything.

QuoteYou and the rest make me regret I ever shared it because I knew how all that was going to end.
Unfortunatly, the perspective you are adopting will make of it a self-fullfilling prophecy ...

QuoteUnfortunately for you, and choose to believe me of not, this is what i did. I kept away from you all the invincible magic ingredient from this system.
Well... believe it or not, I probably believe you. There is at least one way to improve this I think.

QuoteDo you want to guess the worst news now? You will NEVER know what it is. NEVER!
I don't understand how this is worst news.  There are lot's of things I don't know. That's fine by me. And worse then what exactly?

QuoteYou were happy to get the system for free but asking you to share your results with me was too much to ask.
Where did I said such thing, or did I even imply that I would not share my results?  I'm not playing your exact system anyomre, I'm playing it differently now. I shared part of it(system, not results) here already, it has to do with keeping a dynamic record and not a static file.


QuoteYou ruined your chance to know how it works.
Once again, that's fine by me. There are other ways to play.


"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

TwoCatSam

You ruined your chance to know how it works.

I thought "how it works" had been posted and is in stone.  Am I wrong?  Is/was there more to come?

Dang!

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

foogus

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 16, 07:52 PM 2014
You ruined your chance to know how it works.

I thought "how it works" had been posted and is in stone.  Am I wrong?  Is/was there more to come?

Dang!

Sam

We will never know Sam...... :'(

Just so steven1212 or anyone else is aware, I have not been using this method/system at all, but have been following this thread with interest for the last couple of days.  So thanks steven1212 for sharing the "part" that you have, it looks interesting at least.

Unfortunately I am not surprised at the way it has arrived at this point, this often happens in forums when the originator of a thread gets unhappy with non contributors and non believers.

Good luck steven1212.
The ideas on this board are like rough gems, they just need discovering and polishing.

ausguy

I think some calm needs to settle on things here.  My main thought is would things on this thread be taking the direction they have if Amiwrong had not experienced & posted his negative plays with Will. Hill casino & so showing how any play method can is vunerable to a random event ?

In this case something exceeding 1 chance in 1.5 milliion. It's highly likely they would not have changed direction & so INVINCIBLE would have sailed along with improvements in data matching started by Cristal 2000 emerging.

The basic concept of Invincible is ok & some worthwhile improvements have been put forward. Things like dynamic updating of the data code bank (Steven has already said that anyone can have their own codes of numbers but he is happy with his set & has/is doing ok with it), enhancing the options with the data code reader & increasing the pool of numbers in the data code bank.

Using Amiwrong's session as an example (remember it hit 13 straight losses off the WH marquee board)) the coder could be used to ID a string of losses. So say the bets had a stop loss at L3 then when it ID'd a "WIN"(nil match) then betting can resume.

Another thought from a MM/BR slant is that your BR pool should be able to endure a rare negative betting event loss?

Throwing mud & daggers here is a road to nowhere.

As to Ching-A-Lings view about on line casinos. With live dealer plays I don't see much difference in results between B & M chip plays & on line plays. I've been playing both for a few years now. Either way they're still tough to beat.

It's human nature to say any game is cheating when you lose but it's funny you never hear it said " I've just won heaps but these F'n places are scamming ripoff cheats".

Amiwrong

Hello, friends.

I can not stop thinking about the idea of all this as it seems to give a different view on the dozens/columns sequences. It’s all clear when we take in consideration just dozens or just columns as they hit. But mixed line confuses mind that’s for sure. But, in fact, is there any odds difference between 1123112232213 and 1b2c3c1c1c2a3? After some thinking about it - I suppose - no. Just much more mind squeezing. It seems that 1st more likely to happen but actually the odds are the same. 

Let’s count a bit. If the randomness hits exactly 13 thirds of the table that we predetermined then it hits the odds of 3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3*3= 1 to 1594323. And that’s really bad luck. But it also means that we started betting that it won’t happen right from the first spin. If we start to bet after 8th spin then the odds for random to hit us is 3*3*3*3*3= 1 to 243. And actually there is no difference what were the numbers before we started betting as if ANY numbers had hit as trigger, we would have started betting after it anyway. “For different 5 dozens/columns depending on the trigger” - we think? Yes. But any combination we bet is one of those 243 chances. And what is the reason for random to avoid exactly that one that is written in our sheet after the happened trigger? If we would play random vs random? It seems that it is harder for random to shoot moving target. But is it?  Why is it? Just don’t get it. It would be great if someone could explain me.

And can you please think a little about my idea? What if we take as a trigger not 6 numbers, but 3? And marking them not as, for example, [1 â€" 3 â€" 36]  1c3, but as 1a1c3c? And then we look at next 5 thirds in the sheet line. What we should bet? We can test it classically against dozens/columns at first. But I don’t believe it would make any difference. There should be some tweak that can occur to your head, not mine yet. Just think about it a bit when you have some spare minute, maybe something will spark.

Thank you for your attention,

With great respect,

Philipp

superman

LOL, another 20+ pages of crap.

@ Sam, I only try to help or warn, in this case warn, other members, you see you all swarmed around this "unknown" bloke and look where it's got you, nowhere at all, we see this atleast once a year.

He knew it would die a mechanical death and already had his contingency plan in place, find issues with SOME members then chuck more crap around, blaming the neysayers/non believers to upset the mugs who are onboard. 20+ pages can be summed up in a few lines of text.

Step 1 Create a teaser post
Hi everyone I have a method to make you all rich, drivel drivel, if you are very very nice to me I will post it soon, I don't have time now to post but I have all the time in the world to post other drivel to keep you excited and engaged.

Step 2
Resist posting for a few days to judge interest, check PM's often because some chumps WILL want to be my friend.
Step 2 (a) if not enough interest, make some more excited posts, drum up some more interest and keep them waiting a bit more
Step 2 (b) if it looks like they are doubting, ask where I should post it, just to stoke the excitement again.

Step 3
Post it and see what happens, the "desperate fools" will attack any neysayers/negative posts etc
Step 3 (a) get them all to test it for me, I may even get a FREE coder to make trackers/tools all for free
Step 3 (b) WHEN it fails for someone, because it sure will, defend it a bit, see what others say, or go away for a few days until they have morphed it for me, check in from time to time to see how the fight is going.
Step 3 (c) tell the fools of all the PM's I get telling me of great success with my INVINCIBLE BS, this will add doubt to the mix, they should doubt their grasp on the system

Step 4
If they seem slightly disspondent, tell them they are ungratefull and to test them I only gave them some ingredients, and to really pi$$ them off tell them they will never get the CRITICAL part.

You are here now!!!!!! what comes next.

Step 5
Wait and sum up how much love I am getting from these fools, time will tell.

In the past I have been approached by people like this, they have this super duper system and if I bot it for FREE for them, we can start selling the bot, if I think hard enough I could see how EASILY it would sell, fools and their money are easily seperated, but I cannot do it to fellow humans. So I get the method in print, read it and only 10% of the time do I bother to code and test it, 90% of the time I reply straight away telling them to move on its rubbish. The sad thing is a few times I have been asked to overlook the downside (it losses) and think of the money made from selling it ONLY.

So to answer the question of why I dont contribute anything anymore, there is nothing to contribute, for years I coded/tested/reported all of it was bad news so I am letting the other coders play now, I made plenty of money from coding, Steph & Normy etc can have their time in the light now, they'll tire of it at some point then the wanters of freebies will find another coder to spend hours with rubbish.

It's like the weather, cyclic
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Turner


atlantis

Thanks superman, amiwrong for your contributions...
I do not think this is invincible either for the reasons given.

Is it just me or has steven1212 over-reacted a bit to some of the comments...?

Do I think that there is some missing ingredient that is now to be withheld from us? Well.... NO, I don't. My opinion is that this is sour grapes coming from Steven because of some of the replies... but if there really was a "missing" pattern condition then I am slightly miffed and take exception with steven1212 for not been straight with us and for hoodwinking us into believing that he had revealed to us the full and true system as he promised to do so. All that after some rather tedious waiting and "bigging up" his offering too.
It's slightly annoying that we have been expected to test and report back on something which he obviously KNEW was not the real deal and therefore the results of our tests would have surely been invalid anyway. Now he tells us that for whatever his own personal reasons and feelings, he has kept back and not revealed the very KEY fact upon which hangs the the entire credence of the "invincibility" premise/tag! Something which we are never to learn in the future, either!

He must have known that it would not be long before it would lose and the doubts would start to surface. Like all the other code 4 derivatives (including my own I may add) it seems to me that this is just another valiant but perhaps flawed attempt to thwart and master random; albeit in a slightly different and original way.

When it comes right down to it what do we have here? Surely it all boils down to pinning your hopes on a 5 step marti with a rising progression that could prove costly?

I see Steven1212 is still with us and moved onto another topic about winning on betfair rng. Why he need do this if he already has the invincible code PLUS the key winning ingredient that he holds back for himself??

The weather is surely cyclic.

A. 
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

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