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Which online casino is the best + Invincible system to reveal

Started by steven1212, Jan 31, 01:39 PM 2014

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vundarosa

Quote from: ati on Feb 14, 05:45 AM 2014
Unfortunately I did not record the numbers, but it happened a couple times already. I think this database should be much bigger, because this is just from someone's 879 spins if I understand correctly. Many times I did not find a six spin pattern in the document. I also think that every new outcome should be somehow added to the document.
Let's say you have one hit for 1a2b3c and the next number in the pdf is 1. You bet on 2 and 3, and you win with a hit on dozen 2. The next time you search for the same pattern, there should be two hits in the pdf.
One interesting thing I found in the pdf, the 2c3b1b3a1b1a2 combination happened twice in this rather small sample.

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mate you're one step to seeing this for what it is.....follow up on the reasoning and you'll find yourself seating on your hands for all outcomes will have more than 1 show in search....costly way of playing....the basic truth still holds the same....marty is a dead end and failure is eminent when using it....must win 242x for each bust....

wise up champs!, we've been that road before....

vundarosa

vundarosa

Quote from: foogus on Feb 16, 09:18 PM 2014
We will never know Sam...... :'(

Just so steven1212 or anyone else is aware, I have not been using this method/system at all, but have been following this thread with interest for the last couple of days.  So thanks steven1212 for sharing the "part" that you have, it looks interesting at least.

Unfortunately I am not surprised at the way it has arrived at this point, this often happens in forums when the originator of a thread gets unhappy with non contributors and non believers.

Good luck steven1212.

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hehe, just today i read how far this thread has gotten to...i'm not surprised....i held myself and patiently read from page +/- 6 and could not believe my eyes....the system is childish and has been proven so many times....it’s a twist of old ones, based on wrong foundations and tons of fallacies...yes we all do it!

BUT, steven's approach is most surprising, akin of typical cult leader--> cannot be corrected, those who disagree or won't join in are wrong, bitter, ungrateful and the like...with this approach we will get no valuable contributions which would more sooner than not show how this system as a failed endeavor.

To each his own

vundarosa

vundarosa

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 17, 07:08 AM 2014
Thanks superman, amiwrong for your contributions...
I do not think this is invincible either for the reasons given.

Is it just me or has steven1212 over-reacted a bit to some of the comments...?

Do I think that there is some missing ingredient that is now to be withheld from us? Well.... NO, I don't. My opinion is that this is sour grapes coming from Steven because of some of the replies... but if there really was a "missing" pattern condition then I am slightly miffed and take exception with steven1212 for not been straight with us and for hoodwinking us into believing that he had revealed to us the full and true system as he promised to do so. All that after some rather tedious waiting and "bigging up" his offering too.
It's slightly annoying that we have been expected to test and report back on something which he obviously KNEW was not the real deal and therefore the results of our tests would have surely been invalid anyway. Now he tells us that for whatever his own personal reasons and feelings, he has kept back and not revealed the very KEY fact upon which hangs the the entire credence of the "invincibility" premise/tag! Something which we are never to learn in the future, either!

He must have known that it would not be long before it would lose and the doubts would start to surface. Like all the other code 4 derivatives (including my own I may add) it seems to me that this is just another valiant but perhaps flawed attempt to thwart and master random; albeit in a slightly different and original way.

When it comes right down to it what do we have here? Surely it all boils down to pinning your hopes on a 5 step marti with a rising progression that could prove costly?

I see Steven1212 is still with us and moved onto another topic about winning on betfair rng. Why he need do this if he already has the invincible code PLUS the key winning ingredient that he holds back for himself??

The weather is surely cyclic.

A.

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but A, when seasoned members as yourself join in the way you have, you validate this kind of stuff and give room for others like Steven to do it all over again ....Superman has it right, again, as many other times he has, yet some of us don't seem to learn...this way all we do is to continuously chase our own tails

vundarosa

jjfx

what is the hit rate?

In GAME2 +503

356spins
246W right?

69%

really good if we think that you keep betting on odds 1.5....


jjfx

Game 3
135spins
87W

64%

In which way are you using the system? example. you input 1c2b3a if there are 2 matches you bet? What if there are 4 matches?

Thanks

TwoCatSam

vunderosa

There is nothing wrong with hearing a person out.  You might have to stroke his ego a tad, but I think "licking" is a bit over the top.  Anyway, I have learned a couple of things from people who had a big nothing in their bag.  Sometimes you get an idea and it's fun to chase them down.

Otherwise, we could say, "Nothing works; let's go home!!".....   Wait!  I am home!

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

superman

QuoteSuperman has it right, again, as many other times he has, yet some of us don't seem to learn...this way all we do is to continuously chase our own tails

Good comment, it's a shame that 95% of the members are stuck in the same old same old. Over the last few years we have, well some of us, worked out that NO TRIGGER is any better than the last one, no matter where on the table we bet, $hit n run, wait for virtual wins/losses the list goes on.

The wheels on the bus go round and round ......... when they fall off, a new bus is found and off it goes again.

We know the limits of random X EC's in a row etc all from the maths, which tells us the longer we track the longer (time wise) it will take to lose it all back, just bet every spin, use smart MM make your target and end the session.

These forums are all getting polluted with MECHANICAL methods/systems, if I owned a forum it would be almost empty because I would delete 99% of threads containing

wait for this
do that & hope

I guess that's what most players want, A,B,C mechanical play. Sadly this isn't going to happen as the last spin has 4uckall to do with the next one, yes Standard Deviation plays a big part from an RNG perspective or regression to the mean, they do show something but we also know that they don't give us the full answer to a winning bet.

Pick a play and play it, work out what your wl registery looks like and take it from there.

QuoteYou might have to stroke his ego a tad, but I think "licking" is a bit over the top

Yeah Sam, I may have chosen the wrong word, but knowing what we ALL know, people like that should not be given the time of day, they're just taking the pi$$ having a laugh at your/our expense. To me a spade IS a spade and always will be.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

vundarosa

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 20, 10:11 AM 2014
vunderosa

There is nothing wrong with hearing a person out.  You might have to stroke his ego a tad, but I think "licking" is a bit over the top.  Anyway, I have learned a couple of things from people who had a big nothing in their bag.  Sometimes you get an idea and it's fun to chase them down.

Otherwise, we could say, "Nothing works; let's go home!!".....   Wait!  I am home!

Sam

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no problem with listening, but listening is not the end of it all.....you listen for a reason.....after we listen we ought to tell people when they're banging their heads against the wall....stroke the ego all you like, but not my cup of tea to let them bang their heads open when you've seen the outcome of it (empty wallets in this case)

vundarosa

Turner

Nice work Superman....

As the saying goes, Cream always floats to the top.....and you posted some double top there....lol


ugly bob

Sorry jjfx, I did not see your posts earlier. I think your first 5 posts or something get pre moderated and then you get up to speed with your posts appearing instantly.

My tests are just betting a fixed 2 dozens (1st and 2nd in this instance) using the 9 step parlay progression I wrote out.

I am just showing an alternative to the 5 step grand marty.

I never really checked the percentage stats.....so I suppose 69% and 64% average out to the expected 66% betting two dozens. I will test this way using a 7 trigger code if anybody produces a tracker for it. There only seems to be a tracker for a 6 trigger code at the moment. Will it make any difference betting a 7 trigger code as opposed to any fixed two dozens? My gut says not really, but hey, you never know.  I suppose my results show you can still get good results betting any two dozens if you have a deep enough progression. Even the 5 step grand marty only failed once in the tests and must have produced a profit.

I don't know if you have read any of Mr J's posts. He was the ultimate progression player and had a lot of success. I think it all boiled down to the fact that he had the bankroll just like he always said. My tests kind of confirm it. If you want to win money, you need to bring plenty of it. This is all you can hope for playing any MM strategy.

cheers

ausguy

Bob - Just did a quick test in MANUAL mode on the cristal2000 coder on this thread (page 16). I put in the 1st 7 listed in the coder line & it ID'd those numbers.

I then put the 1st 10 in & again it ID'd them. I also put in the 1st 20 & it ID'd them also. I hope this info. is of some help ?

I like your fixed dozens idea & your 9 step parlay progression. I agree 100% with your BR sentiment championed by Mr. J.


ugly bob

Thanks for the info ausguy, I will give it a try.

Well, I did one more test for the road. +393 this time around.

It's easy just to download 500 spins from random.org and scroll down the page looking for a bust. I have not found one yet.

I think it's one of those where you could bite the bullet and try it out hoping you get a couple of bankrolls in front before busting out. Then you never play it again.

And if you are one of the unfortunate ones to bust out quick, well......you can always fall back on that old saying 'what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas'  :-X

I got the idea for the 9 step parlay after reading the star progression. A lot of people use that one on the even chances. So I thought why not figure out how to adapt it for the double dozens. A lot of guys use star regularly and claim it works for them. So covering 66% instead of 50% should be an even safer proposition.

1 W
2 W (END)+5.00
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
1 W (END)+6.00 (+11.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
2 W
2 W (END)+6.00 (+17.00)
1 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+22.00)
2 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+27.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
2 W
1 W (END)+6.00 (+33.00)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
3 L (GO TO STEP 5)
1 W
1 W (END)+3.00 (+36.00)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
1 W (END)+6.00 (+42.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
2 W
1 W (END)+8.00 (+50.00)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
2 W
1 W (END)+6.00 (+56.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
1 W
1 W (END)+8.00 (+64.00)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
1 W
2 W (END)+8.00 (+72.00)
1 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+77.00)
2 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+82.00)
1 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+87.00)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 5)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 6)
2 W
1 W (END)+4.00 (+91.00)
1 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+96.00)
2 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+101.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 5)
1 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+106.00)
1 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+111.00)
2 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+116.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
1 W
2 W (END)+8.00 (+124.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
2 W
1 W (END)+6.00 (+130.00)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
2 W
1 W (END)+8.00 (+138.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
2 W
1 W (END)+8.00 (+146.00)
2 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+151.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
2 W
2 W (END)+8.00 (+159.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
2 W (END)+6.00 (+165.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
2 W
1 W (END)+6.00 (+171.00)
1 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+176.00)
1 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+181.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
1 W (END)+6.00 (+187.00)
2 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+192.00)
2 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+197.00)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
3 L (GO TO STEP 5)
1 W
1 W (END)+3.00 (+200.00)
2 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+205.00)
2 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+210.00)
2 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+215.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
2 W
1 W (END)+8.00 (+223.00)
2 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+228.00)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
3 L (GO TO STEP 5)
3 L (GO TO STEP 6)
3 L (GO TO STEP 7)
2 W
1 W (END)+4.00 (+232.00)
2 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+237.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
2 W (END)+6.00 (+243.00)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
2 W (END)+6.00 (+249.00)
1 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+254.00)
1 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+259.00)
1 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+264.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
2 W
1 W (END)+6.00 (+270.00)
2 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+275.00)
1 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+280.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
2 W
2 W (END)+6.00 (+286.00)
1 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+291.00)
2 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+296.00)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
2 W (END)+6.00 (+302.00)
1 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+307.00)
1 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+312.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 5)
3 L (GO TO STEP 6)
3 L (GO TO STEP 7)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 8.
1 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+317.00)
1 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+322.00)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
1 W
2 W (END)+8.00 (+330.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
2 W
1 W (END)+2.00 (+332.00)
2 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+337.00)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 5)
3 L (GO TO STEP 6)
2 W
2 W (END)+4.00 (+341.00)
2 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+346.00)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
1 W
1 W (END)+2.00 (+348.00)
2 W
2 W (END)+5.00 (+353.00)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
2 W
2 W (END)+2.00 (+355.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
2 W
1 W (END)+8.00 (+363.00)
2 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+368.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
1 W
1 W (END)+8.00 (+376.00)
2 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 5)
2 W
2 W (END)+3.00 (+379.00)
1 W
1 W (END)+5.00 (+384.00)
1 W
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
2 W
2 W (END)+6.00 (+390.00)
3 L (GO TO STEP 2)
3 L (GO TO STEP 3)
3 L (GO TO STEP 4)
3 L (GO TO STEP 5)
2 W
1 W (END)+3.00 (+393.00)

seanwilliam1988

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ADulay

Quote from: seanwilliam1988 on Mar 20, 05:51 AM 2014
There are a lot of online casinos in the Internet. For me, the best one is Betcoinâ,,¢ Entertainment Network. It has a wide variety of casino games like dice, slot machines, roulette, blackjack, poker and more. The gaming system is played using bitcoin--the new form of digital currency that circulates under peer-to-peer network.

Hey Sean,

  Still pushing that Betcoin casino thing, eh?

  Are you winning there or just blasting advertising threads all over the gambling forums?

  I find it hard to believe you've still got any forums left to post on!

  AD

Sinone

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