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Which online casino is the best + Invincible system to reveal

Started by steven1212, Jan 31, 01:39 PM 2014

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RouletteGhost

Just trying to put this into prospective for you

No one actually thought you would share because we have heard one last ingredient many times before.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

steven1212

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 25, 10:34 AM 2017
I’m going to go to my drone forum and tell them one motor fails because something on a control board is loose but I will post it when I’m ready

You like drones ?!!! No kidding ! We must be friends then. Check out my instagram account, I am: the_sky_explorer
Drones are my passion.

cht

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 25, 10:37 AM 2017
Just trying to put this into prospective for you

No one actually thought you would share because we have heard one last ingredient many times before.
Trust me on this - Steven will share, I see no reason why not.

RouletteGhost

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

atlantis

Hi Steven 1212,

Thanks for sending the details of your system. Just letting ppl know that Steven did send it to me like he said he would. I have been unable to get to my desktop until now to read it through because a builder has been a repairing floor damage right next to where it is - and the work won't be finished yet until tomorrow so it's a bit of a nuisance.
Consequently I have not had time to do any testing either - and this is a busy week for me until Thursday too. Typical. Last week I had much more time. However, I shall think on the propositions that Steven has shared before putting anything into operation. Seems quite flexible and adaptable. I need to make decisions regarding the bet selection and the MM I might employ and a few other considerations etc.
Overall, this is solid advice and sound thinking. When you get to read it you will understand it perfectly and can begin to plan your attack. It's not complicated either, but based on no-nonsense commonsense principles which will make a fine addition to your armoury of roulette systems.

Regards,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Andre Chass

Quote from: cht on Sep 25, 05:08 AM 2017
Hi guys, I'm one of those who have received Steven's system.

I must say that Steven has put a lot of thought behind his system, a lot of that comes from real money playing experience.

Overall it's good stuff, something to learn from a fellow casino punter.

However, a word of caution with your expectation, if you're looking for holy grail then you might be in for disappointment. So stay real and know that roulette is a gambling activity.

We should know by now through our years of experience dabbling with gambling games that the infallible holy grail as most of us understands it does not exists - that's the realm of dreamers and fantasisers.

Be patient folks Steven will reveal it in due time.
Hello fellas!

I also received the Steven1212 email.

What cht said is what I would say ...


The "last ingredient" is fundamental to play with discipline, patience, optimism, self control and bankroll management.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

steven1212


RouletteGhost

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

steven1212

I promised to you to reveal the last ingredient that makes my system an always green system. Here it is. I will only accept to discuss and debate with people who test it for a few days. Not with the people who are going to send me a hate message first and then read it.

Before we begin, let’s go through some vocabulary together.
What is a holy grail? It’s the most misused word in this entire forum. And the one that shows that the mentality of most of you is just wrong to approach a roulette table because you are all stuck and obsessed with the concept of a holy grail.
What is a holy grail?
Here is three things it is NOT:
Most of you refer to the HG as a rule based system that will
1. automatically make you money,
2. that we never ever lose, and
3. that can generate a huge amount of money every month taking a minimum risk

Well most of you are wrong and here is three reasons why:
1. Because it is not automatic. Money doesn’t come from drop from the sky. You are to work hard for it. Learn the subject, master it, and reinvent it all the time. You need to put in the time to understand it yourself and not just follow what someone will serve u on a silver plater.
2. Everyone loses sometimes. Many of you have discarded my system before because you busted on the first progression. And what do you think ? That there is a way to always chose the right bet ? Don’t be childish. Have perseverance. Work harder. Take the example of a building constructor, do you think every building he makes will succeed ? Sometime he will fail, but the next one will be profitable, and life goes on.. you can’t always succeed.
3. some you are actually shocked that need to use big bank rolls to make little money. People ask me of ways to generate 100 chips per day with a 100 chips bankroll. Lol, non! No risk, no gain. Do you think the building constructor triples his investment every year ? No, he makes 20-30% a year and that’s great. So if you want to make money with the roulette you seriously need to consider it like a real job and stop dreaming about 100% daily returns. You are going to need to invest a good amount of money in the hope of generating a 20-30 return.

My definition of a holy grail, is a playing method that will suit everyone’s taste of play, wether you like to wait a long time for a trigger, spin all day, have 5 mins only, and at the same time unable you to live of the roulette without risking your home and meals. And this is what I will give you now. But
1. It’s nos automatic. You have to do the work, you have to figure out on your own what your style is, how to adapt it to your mentality,
2. It will lose sometimes, but it’s ok. You will always end up green if you follow me with discipline, and that’s all that matter.,and
3. If you’re one of those idiots who think they can generate 100 dollars per day by investing only 100 dollars, stop reading and go home now. Take this a serious job, decide how much money you want to make each month, and be ready to invest a sufficient amount. Just like you would need to do if you opened a restaurant, a bakery, become a taxi driver ... you need to put an initial investment upfront.

That was my lesson number one to you because some of you see roulette as a get rich over night method, and that’s all the casino ask from you to take your money. It’s a advice I give you about philosophy of play, and mentality. Very important.

Now that this is clear, go to page 9 and read about my system. Understand it. Then come back here and I’ll tell you how to use it and make sure you never bust.

Now let’s talk about probabilities and statistics. One basic concept of the roulette table, but very important for the rest of my post. On a 500 or 1000, everything is possible. But on a million spin, everything evens out. What does that mean:
On 500 spins, it’s possible for example to see dozen 1 hit 20% of the time, while dozen 2 and 3 hit 40%. But the more you spin, and the more those figures will get closer to 33% for each dozen. Everything evens out after a certain amount of time. It’s the basic of the roulette table probability. Another example, in 500spins, it’s possible to see a number hit only a couple of times, but in 1 million spin, this number, and every other number will get closer to hit a perfect 1/37th of the time. Every thing evens out with time.  Why do I say this ? To explain that it’s the same for every system. In 500 spins, they may succeed 100% of the time, but in a million spin, every system and every progression will bust exactly the amount of time that probabilities say it will bust.

A four step progression on double dozen like my code 4 invincible system has one chance in eighty to bust. Then over a million spins, it will bust one time in 80. That’s the way it is. I hope you understand. And this was my point number two to you, because it’s essential to understand if you want to win the way I win. Now let’s move to the next step.

First of all, back in the days I suggested playing a five step progression, but as of today and I only play it with a four step progression which is enough and much faster (you will understand why after). Therefore, a total of 80 units (1-1,3-3,9-9,27-27). Each wins gives you 1 unit. You need to win 80 times to complete a cycle. It can bust, I know. Even a 20 step progression could bust. But why is that a problem ?
One of you reported a few pages back testing a bet selection brought up by Atlantis. Good results in the first two days, then the progression busted. So this person dismissed the system saying it wasn’t invincible. Why because it busted ? That’s sooooo stupid.  Does that mean that when you have an 80 unit progression you play with a 80 unit bankroll ? I hope not, because if it’s the case, you are really not clever.

And unfortunately, what I just explained is the reason why all of you said my system didn’t work. Because sometimes it busts. So what ? Every bet selection and progression can bust. My secret, my missing ingredient, is not something I first held back on purpose. It just seemed like something so obvious to me that I never needed to discuss it. But apparently not. So let’s talk about it now.

Someone has written earlier in the thread “he is lying there is no secret, what else could there be, we know the bet selection, we know the progression, what else?”
MONEY  MANAGEMENT. This is my secret. If you thought that money management means progression, then you were wrong. That’s only one aspect of money management. But Money management includes much more. Bank roll for example. Or session targets. And stop losses.
So to all those of you who said my system was terrible because you saw it bust once, I answer to you are that you are foolish. Of course the progression will bust sometimes, but if that means you busted your entire bankroll, then you are very very very stupid.

Let me show you why. Here is what you’ve been waiting for for 3 years. My secret money management, the last ingredient to make my system, and many others, absolutely bullet proof.

Imagine you play code 4 invincible as described on page 9, with a 80 unit progression (4 steps). So you need to win 80 times to close a cycle.

I ask you to play one session everyday for one month, until you either reach the 80 unit profit, or until you bust. Out of 30 days/sessions, how many times do you think you would bust and how many time would you reach the target ?

Ill give you the answer to that. In a few sessions, everything is possible. You can win them all, you can lose them all on your first bet, absolutely everything is possible although I believe that you will win much more than you will lose out of experience. But for those who don’t believe, let me tell you what will really happen if you play enough sessions. Things will even out. Just like I explained to you in my probability theory above. In one million spins, probability will take over, and will give you exactly what you are supposed to receive.

So in our case, we play 80 times a sequence that has 1/80th chance to lose. If we play it 1 million times, I reckon we will win it at least 500k time, and lose it about the same. In continuous play only. With that knowledge, here is what you must do.

Imagine you start betting with a 1000 unit bank roll (the minimum I suggest).

Step 1: divide your bankroll in 5 to decide what you will risk. In our example, we start our first attack with a 200 pocket.

Step 2: use this 200 pocket to calculate the chip size needed for the progression of your choice. In our example, we play code invincible with a 4 step progression (80 units). This means that 1 unit equals 200:80= 2,5£ chips.

Step 3: your target in this first attack is to double your 200 units. For this, you need to win 80 times your 2,5£ chip. So you play 80 rounds of the system and progression.

There are two possible scenarios:

- you reach your target of 80 units. Session is over. You doubled your 200 chip pocket and therefore achieved a 20% return on your total balance. Got take a break, and restart when you are ready. It could be the day after or just after 5 minutes. Whatever suits your playing style.
- The second option is that you bust the progression. In that case, the session is over as well. You go take a break, and restart a new session when you are ready. But what you need to know, and it’s beautiful, is that when you lose you generally don’t lose everything. If you lose on the first bet, you lost everything. If you lose on the last bet, you lost only 1 unit because at that moment you already have a 79 unit profit. Everything will happen. Sometimes you will lose at the beginning, in the middle, or at then end. So for the purpose of example and calculation, let’s suppose you lose exactly half way all the time. You bust you progression once you’ve won 40 units. This means that in our example you haven’t lost your entire 200 chip pocket but just 100 chips. Therefore, you achieve -10% of roi on your total bankroll, and have 90% of your bankroll left. 

Step 4: wether you win or lose your session, take a break, come back when you are ready, and restart a new session following the rules above (with patience and discipline). Never change the rules you set for yourself.
If you won the previous session, your bankroll is at 1200 and your new pocket for the next session is 240 units. Your new chip size is 3£. If you had lost the previous session your new bankroll would have been 900. New pocket 180, new chip size 2,25£ (you round it up to the lowest possible match ie 2,20 or 2£ according to the chip size available at your casino).

That’s it. The beauty of this is that you never bust. You will always have a bankroll to play with. You reduce your bet size/risk after a loss, and you increase it again after a win. Most importantly, by recalculating stakes before every session, you use the concept of exponentiality to grow your investment. And the fact that the losses are logically smaller than the wins ensures that you will finish above where you started.

Let’s take an example.
In one month, you play one session each day. According to the rule of probability, let’s take what I consider to be a bad case scenario. You lose half of your sessions. 15 wins, 15 losses. With a starting balance of 1000£, your new balance after 30 sessions will be 3158£. Over 300% return in one month. Not bah eh?
Now let’s say we take an extremely horrible and negative scenario for the most pessimistic of you. In 30 days, you lose 20 sessions and win only 10. Then your 1000£ will be transformed into 750£. Not to bad of a loss for such a bad month?
In my personal experience, I have never had such result. In general I win between 18 and 21 sessions in 30. A 20 wins vs 10 losses would turn your 1000£ into 13k.

Now one more point. It’s about volume. The more you play, the more you win. No need for hit and run. Let’s imagine you play two sessions a day instead of one. The strike rate is the same. You lose half of them (which you won’t, you will win more than half). So you win 30sessions and lose 30. Then your 1000£ balance became after 60 sessions: 9,9K

There you have it. This is how I play and how I have been winning money for 5years. I don’t really use it on the roulette anymore as I have more fun in football but I use exactly the same money management and it does wonders.
Now let me also add that you can adapt this to suit your style and aversion to risk. Dividing your balance by 5 brings good profit. But if you like to take more risk you can also divide it by 3 and have bigger profits (that’s what I do in football). And for those who like to take less risk, you can divide it by 10 or 20. The concept is the same, it will always bring you growth, as long as you have a minimum of accuracy and hit rate in your system.

Which brings me to the last part of my message to you.  The system. It’s not the most important. The most important like I’ve explained is the mentality you go in with. It has to be strong, patient, disciplined, and optimistic. Then it’s the money management. Stick to my rules. Have discipline. And then comes the system.

The system helps to make sure you can win enough sessions. Half is good. And very easy to achieve. With our systems, all we do is try to challenge randomness in order to have a better hit rate. And most of the times it works. But at the end, it’s probability that takes over random. And over time it doesn’t matter. The wheel will give you what you are meant to receive mathematically. It all evens out with time. All that to say that you should use the system you want. The one that fits your playing style and with which you feel confident and have fun.

I think code 4 is strong. But here are other example.
If the progression of 80 units is too much for you, wait for a virtual loss on the first and play three steps only. 26 units. Sure you might lose it more often, but you only need 26wins instead of 80 to close a session. So at the end, it all evens out. You should win it at least half the time as well.

Another example. Take the thread Hit and Run of Andres chass system. He likes to play a low odd bet, where he stakes 1k to win 150. He needs to win 8 times to recover one loss. Well Andre here is how you make your own style of play invincible. Adopt my money management. Play sessions of 8 spins. Space them out if you like hit and run. Spin once every two hours, 8 times a day. The days you win 8 times, you closed one session successfully. The days when you have a loss, on average it will be on spin 4, so you will lose only half of the pocket. If you win just half of your sessions, you will be extremely profitable. Actually even if you lose more than your win, you can still be I profit. Considering the fact that you’re are today on a 23 consécutive win streak, I think you get my point ? Invincible.

Now imagine if you played it with 5 step progression of 240 units. Sure it would take time, but you would lose it so little that the profit at the end of the month or the year would be huge. Don’t be afraid of progressions. As long as they don’t bust your account when you lose them once in a while, they’re ok. The building constructor has to put a lot of money upfront before he can make a profit. If you open a bakery it will cost you money and you have no guarantee to make it back selling bread.

And to conclude this, I will tell you how I have been playing it myself. Very simple and efficient. I stopped playing code 4 because it was annoying for me to play and the 80 unit session take too much time. So I found my middle ground between this and a system in few steps like Andre Chass.

I play on streets. I cover 11 streets (11 units) out of 12 to win 1 unit. If I have a loss, I recover most of it in 2 bets. Like a martingale yes. The second bet is 4 units on 11 streets, and if it wins, I take it again. If both win, I recovered 8 units of the 11lost and I go on. To play like this you need a bankroll of 55 units. And it loses very rarely. To lose twice a 95% covered board.
For bet selection, I keep it simple but efficient too.
When I sit at the table I look at the past spins and look for a street that repeated twice in a row. Let’s say a few numbers back the number 10 and 12 came out after each other. Then I will cover all the other streets except this one and start betting. What I am doing is not only betting that I won’t hit twice in a row the same street, but that if one street is going to repeat while I’m at the table, it won’t be the exact same street that previously repeated ! That’s asking too much of the wheel !
So I pay 10 units. Then move on to another table and find a new street to play on. I repeat the process 5times until I doubled my pocket after 50 wins and close my session. Most of the time, I never even need to play the martingale. It’s very likely that you will win all 55 spins. And if you were to lose the martingale, it doesn’t matter.   Cause now that you know about my system, you can afford to bust. You can even afford to bust more than you win.

Good luck.

P.S: one message to all my detractors. I don’t ask for an apology. But I ask for one thing. When you read my system it’s very clear that you need at least 30 sessions to make sure you have profit. So you have no right to tell me that my system doesn’t work until you actually test it on 30 sessions and prove me wrong.


intermax


RouletteGhost

I do agree there

I hate when someone sees a loss and condemns a method

I made a method of play a few weeks ago. I went through 100s of zummas results with no loss

Then someone tested it and had one loss. I believe they said “that’s enough for me”

Sorry to say, but that person will never be satisfied then. In a negative expectation game you need to expect losses. Anything else is foolish

The question for a successful system is “do the wins outweigh the losses”. If I have a loss but am still in profit that is success

So my method was condemned because someone had one loss. I expect losses it’s part of the game. 
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

denzie

Alright..... here's my thought...

Your mm is very nice. In fact I recently doing something likewise. But I play hot numbers.

The system itself I'm gonna pass on that one. Coz my hitrate is much higher than yours. Meaning I would never ever need that many sessions to recover.

But....You came through. It's definitely not a hg. But so isn't mine as I get slapped to from time to time. But who cares. .... as long It's going north with the profits it's all good.
:thumbsup:

This could actually help people with new thoughts.
:thumbsup:
As spins roll off our predictions get better

wiggy

Thanks for sharing your method Steven. respect.  :thumbsup:
"You can lead a human to intelligence, but you can't make him think''

steven1212

Thanks. FYI, I don’t use the system anymore. In the end I describe what bet I used. It fits my style of play. And like I said, everyone should use the system they enjoy to play and feel confident with.  What is gold is the money management.  It’s a non agressive system that makes you money with a very low strike rate required. Exponentially. I use it with great success on football.
As I said in my post, and you can verify with your own calculation, 19 losses against 11 wins and you break even. Any thing better than that and you’re in profit. In other words, you can lose more than you win and you will still come out on top.
Calculate it yourself and you will see.
Ps when I bet on single streets, I average 20 wins for 10 lost sessions. That’s a 1000% monthly growth.

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