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Some ideas on table layout betting. (Subject modified)

Started by warrior, Nov 09, 10:53 AM 2014

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falkor

These are now the toughest progressions out of a 100K+ sample (and it doesn't get any worse than this from 200K to 1 million trials)

So everything now looks to be within the 500 range!

Looking at the first 100 sets played the following entered Watch Mode based on the 3 rules:
2
10
14
15
20
21
22
26
31
33
35
36
37
39
47
53
57
60
64
70
74
77
83
85
86
88
89
96
99

The rest won outright:
1
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
11
12
13
16
17
18
19
23
24
25
27
28
29
30
34
38
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
48
49
50
51
52
54
55
56
58
59
61
62
63
65
66
67
68
69
71
72
73
75
76
78
79
80
81
82
84
87
90
91
92
93
94
95
97
98
100

Since this is only the FIRST WIN there's ample opportunity for those that repeated or won on DS 1 or DS 2 to incur MULTIPLE WINS before either closing the 4th or 5th or entering Watch Mode for the 5th.

And the Watch Mode sets that never made it to the first win also have a good chance to not only get out alive, but with potentially larger profits than the majority of sets that awarded one or more wins! So there's winning opportunities up every sleeve of this system! You would start with 500, but on a good day would not leave the casino without 1,000!  :thumbsup:

winkel

So you win 70 out of 100 betting up to 5 DS?

If I bet 5 DS Iwin nearly 80 out of 100? but you got the winning system!  :sad2:
There is always a game

falkor

Quote from: winkel on Dec 02, 02:56 PM 2014
So you win 70 out of 100 betting up to 5 DS?

If I bet 5 DS Iwin nearly 80 out of 100? but you got the winning system!  :sad2:
We bet 1-3 DSs with 2 thirds winning outright multiple times, and the rest able to predict when a single win is due with amazing accuracy!

Ladies and Gentlemen, please thank Mr. winkel because we need as many people like him to discredit this system as nothing more than a conspiracy theory, so that we don't draw too much attention in our organised robberies of casino establishments. 

Turner

You may of noticed by now that my first post is always very polite, where I ask nicely that people calm down and refrain from wars of words.

This is one of those moments.

Can I ask Falkor and Winkel to stop bickering. This is smoldering again

It starts as snide comments, then one-upmanship, then insults....then a ban.

Thanks guys

RouletteGhost

can someone explain in detail how this system works

falkor u spend A LOT of time typing and posting which is great

can you invest some of that energy into explaining this system in detal

like you would see in a pdf
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

falkor

RouletteGhost, you need to make the effort not me!

RouletteGhost

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Rewster88

Falkor,

I was thinking on something new but im not in a possition to test it.

You @ a unit on each ds as it comes

4.    Put 1 unit on ds 1
16.  2 units on ds 3
34.  3 units on ds 6.  ( keep the 1 unit on ds1 and 2 on ds3 btw)
12.  4 units on ds 2
33.  Hit 3 units on ds 6. What you now do is remove everything under 3 units, so 3 units, 2units and 1 unit. Whe only have 4 units standing on ds 2. We now continue counting on from 4 units. On a new high always reset !

Continue..

22. 5 units on ds 4 ,,,, and we still leave the 4 units on ds 2
30. 6 units on ds 6 ...
11. Hit 4 units on ds 2 ... Remove all below 4 units, this case its only ds2 and go on from 6 units
24. Hit 5 units on ds 4 etc.......

Session ends in 37 spins or if you have no ds left. Wichever comes first.

Still

Quote from: falkor on Dec 02, 05:19 AM 2014
The problem is that if the first 5-6 DSs open without a win then with 5 DSs we might have already used up to 1K BR. The question about repeats is fascinating and must have something to do with the law of the third (short-term). It's contrary to the Law of Large numbers, but that only comes into effect during the long-term. I don't understand why and never expected it, but at least we win more sets that way. Before I tested I discovered that betting the DSs in the dozens wasn't helping then when I bet 1 DS on a repeat that happened to come in the very next spin!

BTW, we could look at the possibility of switching to 5 DSs after the first win, but right now I'm still concentrating on the first win and the latest results are looking much better.

Quote from: falkor on Dec 02, 05:24 AM 2014
Yep - I've considered betting dozens - and in some cases you could switch to High/Low. I was going to look at that next if the latest test results don't yield a BR of less than 500 for getting the first win.

As for the stats you are interested in, I've never tested that since the basic rules of Warriors means that once a new number comes in the DS is closed and we are finished with it for the set. I would guess that the longer you play the same set beyond 37 spins to more the Law of the Large Numbers comes into effect and the Law of the Third becomes less effective, and we are relying on the latter hence re-tracking after DS 4-5 closes.

falkor, i'm having trouble communicating what tests i think are important.  Other folks want tests done but there are time constraints.  I am well versed in VBA, so if you are in the mood to share your Excel engine i might be able to run some additional tests with the view to cornering the best bets for lines with some interest in getting things done in 37 spins, which means looking at lots of stats in that window.  If there is a list of a million spins somewhere that too would be interesting to share, or else i can generate my own (using delayed calls to a random function) and store them in a text file.  I could build an engine but would appreciate a jump start. 

Still

   

falkor

Quote from: Rewster88 on Dec 02, 09:12 PM 2014
Falkor,

I was thinking on something new but im not in a possition to test it.

You @ a unit on each ds as it comes

4.    Put 1 unit on ds 1
16.  2 units on ds 3
34.  3 units on ds 6.  ( keep the 1 unit on ds1 and 2 on ds3 btw)
12.  4 units on ds 2
33.  Hit 3 units on ds 6. What you now do is remove everything under 3 units, so 3 units, 2units and 1 unit. Whe only have 4 units standing on ds 2. We now continue counting on from 4 units. On a new high always reset !

Continue..

22. 5 units on ds 4 ,,,, and we still leave the 4 units on ds 2
30. 6 units on ds 6 ...
11. Hit 4 units on ds 2 ... Remove all below 4 units, this case its only ds2 and go on from 6 units
24. Hit 5 units on ds 4 etc.......

Session ends in 37 spins or if you have no ds left. Wichever comes first.
Your last idea sounded good too, but I'm not in a position to test it either until I finish with warrior's system, which is a bit different to repetitive ones - it involves a lot of memory and decision making.

falkor

Quote from: Still on Dec 03, 02:52 AM 2014
falkor, i'm having trouble communicating what tests i think are important.  Other folks want tests done but there are time constraints.  I am well versed in VBA, so if you are in the mood to share your Excel engine i might be able to run some additional tests with the view to cornering the best bets for lines with some interest in getting things done in 37 spins, which means looking at lots of stats in that window.  If there is a list of a million spins somewhere that too would be interesting to share, or else i can generate my own (using delayed calls to a random function) and store them in a text file.  I could build an engine but would appreciate a jump start. 

Still


Most of my tests aren't done in excel, but if you've got some ideas on how to corner the DSs during the "chaotic stage" based on previous sets that I've posted then please let us know your ideas and how they would have caught those DSs and come out with a profit at less BR than playing 4-5 DSs, etc. However, I think the method I've developed is very safe and together with the 3 rules means our BR is always healthy. But we'll never be able to hit all the DSs with 3 blind mice.

falkor

These are all the progressions in terms of bet selection that lead to the first win:

1   39031
1 1   1091
1 1 1   35
1 1 1 1   1
1 1 1 1 2 3   2
1 1 1 2   27
1 1 1 2 2   1
1 1 1 2 2 3   1
1 1 1 2 2 3 3   1
1 1 1 2 3   70
1 1 1 2 3 1   2
1 1 1 2 3 1 1 1   1
1 1 1 2 3 1 1 1 2 3 3 3   1
1 1 1 2 3 1 2 2 3 2   1
1 1 1 2 3 1 3   1
1 1 1 2 3 1 3 1   1
1 1 1 2 3 1 3 3   1
1 1 1 2 3 3   2
1 1 1 2 3 3 1 1   2
1 1 2   1654
1 1 2 2   37
1 1 2 2 2   2
1 1 2 2 2 3 1 1 3   1
1 1 2 2 2 3 3   1
1 1 2 2 3   86
1 1 2 2 3 1   1
1 1 2 2 3 1 1 1   2
1 1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2   1
1 1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 2   1
1 1 2 2 3 1 1 2   1
1 1 2 2 3 1 2   1
1 1 2 2 3 1 2 2 3 2 2 2 2   1
1 1 2 2 3 1 3   2
1 1 2 2 3 1 3 3   1
1 1 2 2 3 3   5
1 1 2 2 3 3 3   1
1 1 2 3   2908
1 1 2 3 1   149
1 1 2 3 1 1   60
1 1 2 3 1 1 1   42
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1   22
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1   8
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1   4
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   2
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 2   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 3   2
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 3 3 1   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2   2
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2   2
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 3   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 3 1   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 2   5
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2   3
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2   3
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 2 3   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 2 3 3 3   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 1 3 3   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 2   7
1 1 2 3 1 1 2 2   2
1 1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 2 3   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 2 3 3 3 3   1
1 1 2 3 1 1 3   4
1 1 2 3 1 1 3 3 3   1
1 1 2 3 1 2   6
1 1 2 3 1 2 2   5
1 1 2 3 1 2 2 2   2
1 1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2   1
1 1 2 3 1 2 2 3   1
1 1 2 3 1 2 3   6
1 1 2 3 1 2 3 2   1
1 1 2 3 1 2 3 2 3 3 3   1
1 1 2 3 1 2 3 3 3   1
1 1 2 3 1 3   6
1 1 2 3 1 3 1   2
1 1 2 3 1 3 3   1
1 1 2 3 3   72
1 1 2 3 3 1   2
1 1 2 3 3 1 1   2
1 1 2 3 3 1 1 1   1
1 1 2 3 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 1 2 3 3 1 2   1
1 1 2 3 3 1 2 3   1
1 1 2 3 3 1 3   1
1 1 2 3 3 3   4
1 1 2 3 3 3 3 3   1
1 2   63484
1 2 2   1709
1 2 2 2   51
1 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 2 2 3   67
1 2 2 2 3 1   3
1 2 2 2 3 1 1 1   1
1 2 2 2 3 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 2 2 3 1 1 1 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 2 2 3 1 3   1
1 2 2 3   2922
1 2 2 3 1   160
1 2 2 3 1 1   59
1 2 2 3 1 1 1   39
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1   20
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1   7
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1   8
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   2
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   4
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 3   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 3 3 3 1   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 2   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 3   2
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 2   8
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 2 2   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 3   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 2   8
1 2 2 3 1 1 2 2   2
1 2 2 3 1 1 2 2 2   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 2 3   3
1 2 2 3 1 1 3   2
1 2 2 3 1 1 3 1   1
1 2 2 3 1 1 3 3   1
1 2 2 3 1 2   9
1 2 2 3 1 2 2   5
1 2 2 3 1 2 2 2   2
1 2 2 3 1 2 2 2 2   2
1 2 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3   1
1 2 2 3 1 2 2 3   2
1 2 2 3 1 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 2 3 1 2 3   2
1 2 2 3 1 2 3 2   2
1 2 2 3 1 2 3 2 3 3 3   1
1 2 2 3 1 2 3 3   1
1 2 2 3 1 2 3 3 2 2 3   1
1 2 2 3 1 2 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 2 3 1 3   5
1 2 2 3 1 3 1 1 2 2 2   1
1 2 2 3 1 3 3   2
1 2 2 3 1 3 3 3 3 1   1
1 2 2 3 3   77
1 2 2 3 3 1   1
1 2 2 3 3 1 1 1   1
1 2 2 3 3 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 1   2
1 2 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 2 3 3 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 2 3 3 1 2   1
1 2 2 3 3 1 2 2   1
1 2 2 3 3 1 3   2
1 2 2 3 3 3   3
1 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3   108800
1 2 3 1   6097
1 2 3 1 1   2189
1 2 3 1 1 1   1506
1 2 3 1 1 1 1   685
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1   420
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1   191
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   82
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   29
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   13
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   4
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2   3
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2   3
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 2   14
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2   12
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2   3
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2   40
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2   13
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2   7
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 3 3   6
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 3 3   3
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 3 3 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 3 3 1 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2   72
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2   43
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2 2   20
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2   4
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 3   6
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 3 3   4
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 3 3 3   3
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 2 3 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 3   6
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 3 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 1 3 3 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2   162
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2   66
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2   36
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2   18
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2   6
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 3   3
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 3   7
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 3 3   6
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 3 3 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 3 3 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 3   15
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 3 3   8
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 3 3 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 3 3 3 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 2 3 3 3 3 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 3   6
1 2 3 1 1 1 3 1   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 3 1 1   2
1 2 3 1 1 1 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 3 3 3 1 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 1 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 2   263
1 2 3 1 1 2 2   141
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2   77
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 2   31
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 2 2   16
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2   4
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 2 3   3
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 3   8
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 3 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 3 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 3   16
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 3 2   1
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 3 3   11
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 3 3 3   4
1 2 3 1 1 2 2 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 2 3   31
1 2 3 1 1 2 3 2   2
1 2 3 1 1 2 3 2 3 3 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 2 3 3   15
1 2 3 1 1 2 3 3 2 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 2 3 3 3   7
1 2 3 1 1 2 3 3 3 3   3
1 2 3 1 1 2 3 3 3 3 3   2
1 2 3 1 1 3   4
1 2 3 1 1 3 1   2
1 2 3 1 1 3 1 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 3 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 3 1 1 1 2 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 3 3   3
1 2 3 1 1 3 3 1   1
1 2 3 1 1 3 3 1 3   1
1 2 3 1 1 3 3 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 2   592
1 2 3 1 2 2   237
1 2 3 1 2 2 2   142
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2   53
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 2   27
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 2 2   10
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2   2
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 2 3   3
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 2 3 2   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 2 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 3   3
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 3 2   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 3   11
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 3 2 3   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 3 3   5
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 3 3 3   3
1 2 3 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 3   19
1 2 3 1 2 2 3 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 3 3   10
1 2 3 1 2 2 3 3 2 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 2 2 3 3 3   4
1 2 3 1 2 2 3 3 3 3   5
1 2 3 1 2 2 3 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 2 3   47
1 2 3 1 2 3 2   1
1 2 3 1 2 3 2 2 3   1
1 2 3 1 2 3 3   15
1 2 3 1 2 3 3 3   12
1 2 3 1 2 3 3 3 3   5
1 2 3 1 2 3 3 3 3 3   3
1 2 3 1 2 3 3 3 3 3 3   2
1 2 3 1 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 3   10
1 2 3 1 3 1   3
1 2 3 1 3 1 1 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 1 3 1 1 1 2   1
1 2 3 1 3 3   1
1 2 3 1 3 3 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 3   2865
1 2 3 3 1   167
1 2 3 3 1 1   64
1 2 3 3 1 1 1   31
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1   13
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 1   9
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 1 1   2
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 1 2 3 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 1 3 3   1
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 2   3
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 2 2   1
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 2 3   1
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 2 3 3   1
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 1 3 3   1
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 2   3
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 2 2   2
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 2 2 2   2
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 2 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 3 1 1 1 3   2
1 2 3 3 1 1 2   7
1 2 3 3 1 1 2 2   9
1 2 3 3 1 1 2 2 2   4
1 2 3 3 1 1 3   2
1 2 3 3 1 2   17
1 2 3 3 1 2 2   5
1 2 3 3 1 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 3 1 2 2 2 2   3
1 2 3 3 1 2 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 3 1 2 2 3   1
1 2 3 3 1 2 3   4
1 2 3 3 1 2 3 3   2
1 2 3 3 1 3 1   1
1 2 3 3 1 3 3 1 1 1 1 1 2   1
1 2 3 3 3   93
1 2 3 3 3 1   2
1 2 3 3 3 1 1   1
1 2 3 3 3 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 3 3 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 3 3 1 1 1 2 2 3 3   1
1 2 3 3 3 1 1 1 3   1
1 2 3 3 3 1 1 3 3 3 3   1
1 2 3 3 3 1 2 2 2 2 2   1
1 2 3 3 3 1 3   1
1 2 3 3 3 1 3 3 1 1 2   1
1 2 3 3 3 3 1 1 1 1 1   1
1 2 3 3 3 3 3   4
1 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3   1

winkel

QuoteThese are all the progressions in terms of bet selection that lead to the first win:

Nice, do  we get the ones that lead to a loss as well?
There is always a game

SamNL

For everyone that doesn't understand it all yet, this is where we start:
Quote from: falkor on Dec 01, 05:21 PM 2014
If a new number hits within a DS you start betting on it (= a DS opens) and you only stop betting on it when a new number hits for the same DS (= DS closed), counting the repeats (= DS Repeated) as bonus wins. When 4 DSs open up then pause betting as we are only betting a max of 3 and then start betting any DSs as they repeat until the number of open DSs drops back down to 3. These basics have been re-told several times throughout the topic.
After that we have some rules to go into Watch Mode.
Quote from: falkor on Dec 02, 01:45 PM 2014
DS 1 Closes
Spin # less than 8
Open = 3

DS 2 Closes
Spin # less than 11
Open = 3

DS 3 Closes
Spin # less than? (not sure exactly yet so have left this part of the rule out for now)
Open = 3
The one thing that I don't understand yet is what we're doing once we are in Watch Mode.
But this is what I understand so far.

falkor

QuoteThe one thing that I don't understand yet is what we're doing once we are in Watch Mode.
But this is what I understand so far.
In Watch Mode you wait for the current DS to repeat/close between DS 2 closing and DS 4 closing (we could also include between DS 1 closing and DS 2 closing, but if we get the right trigger we would have to play up to 5 DSs). The first possible trigger is a repeat, which means we might jump on the DS that repeated awaiting closure. the second trigger is that the DS closed after a medium-long gap, say, 8 spins or more. The following DS may then be due within 1-2 spins, so your progression might be 100,200,400. If all DSs close too quickly and you haven't observed any repeats or decent sized gaps then you have to forfeit the set.

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