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MV6 for EC

Started by atlantis, Aug 22, 06:05 AM 2015

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atlantis

MatrixVerticalSix for EC
=================
Originator: JohnLegend.
Tweak: Atlantis.

Bet against formation of six of same result in each vertical column of a 7-wide matrix grid.

There are 2 possible triggers to watch for in each column.

Trigger 1
======
R
B
B
B
B
B - trigger to bet for R.


Trigger 2
======
B
R
R
R
R
R - trigger to bet for B.

Bet ONCE ONLY after a trigger

Win or lose await next new trigger formation.


With a matrix 7 it is recommended to use FLATBET.
0 not recorded in grid.

Advise use fastspin feature of trusted r.n.g. for faster recording and play. Single 0 or nozero roulette.

Example:

R B R B B B R
R B B B R B B
B B R B R R R
B B R R B B R
B R R B B R B
R B R B B B B
R B B R R R R
B R R R R B R
B B B R B B R
R R R B B R R
R B R R B R R
R B R B B B B---w@col7
R R B R B B B
B R R R R B B---w@col5
R R R R B R R
B B R R B R R
R R R B R B R
R B B B R R B
B B B R B B B
B R B B B R B
R B B B R B R
R R R B R B R
B B B B R B R
R B B B B R B
R R B B B B R---L@col4
B R B R R B R
B R R B B B B
B R B B R B R
B B B B R B B
R B B B B R R---w@col6
B B B B R B R
R B B R R R R---w@col4
B B R R R R B---w@col3
B B B R B B B---L@col2
B R B R B R B
R B R R B R B
R B B R R R B---L@col4
B B B B B B R---w@col7
B B B R B B R
R R R B B B R
R R R R R R B
B B R B B B B
R B B B R B R
B B B R B B R
R B B R R R B
B R B B B B R
R B B B R R R
R B R R B B R---w@col3
R R B B B R R
R R R R B B B
R B B R B R B
B B R B B R R---w@col1
B R R R R R R---w@col5
R R R R R B R
R B B B B B R
R R R R B R R
R R R B R B R---L@col7
R R R R R R B
R B B B B B B---L@col1
R R B R R R B
B R R R B R R
B B B R R R R
B B B B B B R
B B R B R B R
R B B B R B R
R B B B B R R
B R R B B R R---w@col2---L@col7
B R B R R B R---w@col4
R R B R B R R
R B B R R B R
R B R B R R B
B R B B B R R
B R B B R R R
B B R R R R R
R R B R R R R
B R R B R R R---L@col6
R R B B R B B---w@col7
B R B B B R R---w@col5
B B B R B B R
R R B B B R R
B B B R R R B
R R R B B B R---w@col3
B R B B R B R
B R B R R B B
R B B R B R B
B R B B B B R
B R R R B B R
B R B R B B B
R B B R B B B
R R R B R R B---w@col5
B R R R R B R
B B B R B B B
B B R R R R R
B B R R B B R
R B R R R R B
B R B R B B B---L@col4
B R B R R B B
B B R R R B B
R B B B R B B
B B R B R R B---L@col7
B B R R R B R
R R B B R B B---L@col5
B R R B R B B
B R R R R B R
B R R R B B R
R R R B B R B---w@col6
B B B B R B R---w@col2
R B B R R B B
R R B R B B B
B R B R R B B
R R B B B R B
R B R B B R R---w@col3
R B R B R B R
R R B B B B B
R B R B R B R
B B B R B B R---w@col1---w@col4
B R R B R R B
B B B R B R R
B R B B R B B
R R R R B R R
R B R R R B B
B B R R B B B
B R B B B B B
B R B B B B B
R B R B R R B
R R B R R B R---w@col7
R R B B R B B
R R R R B B R
B B B B B R B
R B B R B R R
B B R R R B B
R R B B B B R
R R B R B B B
B B B R R R R
B R R R R B R
R R R R R B R
B B B R B B R
R B R B R R R---w@col4
R B R R B R B---w@col7
B R B B B R R
R B B B B B B
B B B R B R B
B B R B R B B


To get MORE bets - compile similar matrix for O/E and H/L results at same time!

Is this the future?
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Pik3dW-e9-A

Regards,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

RouletteGhost

Awesome. Will try
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

little confused. based on above example bet the same as 6 back?

or in the 7 wide matrix you are betting for the opposite after a repeat of 5 times...so if

B
B
B
B
B
here bet R?

BBRBRBB
RRBRBBB
RBBBBBR
RBRBBBR
BRBRBBR
            R HERE BET R?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

GLC

RG,  I think you just bet for a streak of 5 to end. 

So, if you get a streak of 5 R's in the 3rd row, the next time the 3rd row comes up you bet for B. 

All of his examples were for the columns.  I don't know if you could include a streak of 5 on a row and/or a slant. 

It might get too hectic.  Especially if you include tracking for E/O and H/L.

Looks like it would be hard to get into much trouble flat betting and only one bet per trigger.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

RouletteGhost

Quote from: GLC on Aug 22, 08:23 PM 2015
RG,  I think you just bet for a streak of 5 to end. 

So, if you get a streak of 5 R's in the 3rd row, the next time the 3rd row comes up you bet for B. 

All of his examples were for the columns.  I don't know if you could include a streak of 5 on a row and/or a slant. 

It might get too hectic.  Especially if you include tracking for E/O and H/L.

Looks like it would be hard to get into much trouble flat betting and only one bet per trigger.

GLC

Thanks

Got it. Matrixes seem to make good results. As lanky discovered and john legend as well
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

GLC

Yes, there's something intriguing about matrices.

I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out why an R is more unlikely than a B after having 5 R's every 7th spin for 35 spins

I've tested this and can't seem to lose in the short run, albeit the wins with a flat bet are minimal.

I had similar results with Lanky's matrix method.

I've tested this playing for streaks of 5 on rows and slants and it seems to have pretty much the same hit rate as columns.

Hey, to each his own.  I'm sure A will acknowledge that there's no one exact way that wins to play this and every other way is a loser.

I think this is a good system to put in your basket of systems. 

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

bleep24

I cannot see how matrixes will be any better or worse.   If 5 same come out it is still 50/50 what comes next.  If you get a few right results then it is just a good run happening and a compensatory run is just around the corner where you will lose.  If flat betting and you are in front do not run too far with it.  Look on casino history board and you will soon see 5`s losing so perhaps it all to do with longer chains that is making more  winners, and nothing whatsoever to do with  matrixes.    If you are playing £5 per unit then possibly you can make some money.   I have played various matrix methods with very mixed results so they are not a panacea for guaranteed winnings.  There have been some in my view recently MM methods which I consider to be exceptional.  Perhaps one of these with the matrix method will prove a winning formula.    If you ignore matrixes for the 3 E/C`s then you can play all 3 E/C`s as and when a trigger occurs just by following the history board, and easy if flat betting.   Just wait for a 5 chain and bet opposite. 

atlantis

Hi brian,

If playing your perfectly good suggestion using history on a table, then I advise having separate progression for each of the three EC types.
A 6-step progression: 1-2-4-8-16-32 (total 63u = bank of 189u required)
I was playing this way and have won. For matrix7 above I recommend flatbet.
Thanks,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

bleep24

Hi  Atlantis,

Thanks for your thoughts.  I have just had a quick skim through a 52 spin sequence.  There were 4 x 5`s across all three E/C`s.  3 wins - l loss.  Do not know if this is a typical result but if it is then it is OK.  If betting £5 units -  plus £10   Not at all bad.  Will have a further look at more past spins when I get time and see if it holds up. This way saves a lot of recording and you can probably be watching Minder at the same time.  (See `nice little earner`)

Regards and best of luck,     Brian

GLC

Quote from: atlantis on Aug 24, 06:45 AM 2015
Hi brian,

If playing your perfectly good suggestion using history on a table, then I advise having separate progression for each of the three EC types.
A 6-step progression: 1-2-4-8-16-32 (total 63u = bank of 189u required)
I was playing this way and have won. For matrix7 above I recommend flatbet.
Thanks,
A.

I have been playing matrix 7 looking for all kinds of patterns to bet will end and having good results.  Even betting the 6 step marty is a winner.  It means a pattern would have to continue for 11 spins to beat me.  It will happen but so far it hasn't.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

RouletteGhost

with patience of steel, using all the EC bets with separate matrixes, this may be extremely solid

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

atlantis

Quote from: GLC on Aug 24, 08:51 PM 2015
I have been playing matrix 7 looking for all kinds of patterns to bet will end and having good results.  Even betting the 6 step marty is a winner.  It means a pattern would have to continue for 11 spins to beat me.  It will happen but so far it hasn't.

GLC


Hi George,
That's not the way I played. I didn't bet against the pattern for up to 11 spins.
I bet once only after the trigger - as in the first post. If I lost then on the next time that EC trigger formed I would bet the next stage of the six-step progression. Same for the other 2 Ec's.

Example R/B
--------
R
B
B
B
B
B - trigger
B - lost 1u
R
B
B
R
R
R
R
R - trigger
B - won 2u

However, if playing in a matrix 7, then I would not use progression - just flatbet.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Here is an example using same selection trigger with a 1-2-4-8-16-32 six-step progression for the H/L chance.
I am not using a matrix 7 here - only a matrix 4.

I only recommend flatbet with a matrix 7.

Notice in this test how it starts off with quite a few losers. Note the losers are not all consecutive on the same columns.

See how the progression works when a separate progression is applied to EACH column of the grid (4 x 63u) to produce a profit at the end of the test despite the bad start.

Test
===

H   L   L   L
L   L   L   H
L   H   H   L
H   H   L   L
H   L   L   H
L   H   L   L
L   L   H   L
L   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   L   L   L - trig col1
L   H   H   L - L at col1     -1
L   L   H   H
H   L   L   H
L   L   H   L
H   H   L   H
H   L   L   H
H   L   H   H
L   H   H   H
L   H   H   L
L   L   L   L
H   L   L   L
L   H   L   H
L   L   L   H
L   H   L   L - trig col3
H   H   L   H - L at col3     -1
L   H   L   L
L   L   H   H
L   H   L   H
H   L   H   L
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   H   H   L
L   L   L   H
H   L   L   L
H   L   L   L
H   H   L   L
L   H   H   L
L   L   H   L - trig col4
H   L   L   L - L at col4    -1
L   H   H   H
L   H   L   H
H   L   H   L
L   H   H   L
L   L   L   H
H   H   L   H
L   L   L   H
L   H   H   H
L   H   H   H - trig col4
H   H   L   H - L at col4    -2
H   H   L   L
H   H   H   L - trig col2
L   H   H   L - L at col2     -1
H   L   L   L
H   L   H   L
H   H   L   L
L   L   H   L
L   L   H   L
L   L   H   H
H   H   H   H
L   H   L   H
L   H   H   H
L   L   L   L
H   H   H   L
L   L   H   H
L   H   L   L
H   H   H   L
L   H   H   L
H   L   H   H
H   L   H   H
H   H   L   L
H   L   L   L
H   L   H   H - trig col1
H   L   L   L - L at col1    -2
L   H   H   H
H   H   L   L
H   H   H   H
H   L   L   H
L   L   L   L
H   L   H   L
L   L   L   H
H   L   L   L - trig col2
L   L   L   L - L at col2    -2
L   H   H   H
L   H   L   H
H   H   H   L
H   H   L   L
H   L   H   L
L   H   L   H
L   H   H   L
L   H   L   H
L   L   L   L
L   L   L   L - trig col1
H   L   L   H - W at col1  +4
L   L   L   H - trig col3
L   H   L   H - L at col3   -2
L   H   L   L
L   L   H   H
H   L   L   L
L   H   L   L
L   L   H   L
L   H   L   L
H   L   H   L - trig col4
L   L   L   L - L at col4    -1
L   H   H   H
H   H   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   L   H   H
H   H   L   H
H   L   L   H
H   H   H   L
L   L   H   L
L   H   H   L
L   H   L   L
L   H   H   L - trig col4
L   L   H   H - trig col1 ; W at col4  +2
H   H   H   L - W at col1                  +1
H   L   L   L
H   L   H   L
H   L   H   L
H   H   L   L - trig col1 ; trig col4
H   L   L   H - L at col1 ; W at col4      -1     +1
L   L   L   L
H   L   H   L
L   H   H   L
H   L   L   L
L   H   H   L - trig at col4
L   H   L   H - W at col4     +2   
H   L   H   H
H   L   L   H
L   L   L   L
L   L   L   L
H   H   L   H
L   L   H   H
L   H   H   L
L   L   L   H
H   L   H   L
H   H   H   L
L   H   L   H
L   L   H   L
H   L   H   H
L   H   L   H
L   H   L   H
L   H   H   H
H   L   H   H - trig at col4
L   L   H   L - W at col4     +1
L   L   H   H
H   H   L   H
H   H   H   L
L   H   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   H   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   H   L   H - trig col1
H   L   H   H - W at col1   +2
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   L   H   L
L   H   L   L
H   H   H   H
L   L   H   L
H   L   L   L
H   L   H   H
H   H   L   H
L   L   L   H
L   L   L   L
L   H   H   L
L   L   H   L
L   L   L   H - trig col1
H   L   H   H - W at col1   +1
H   L   H   L
H   H   L   L
L   L   L   L
L   L   H   L
H   L   H   L - trig at col4
H   H   H   H - W at col4   +1
H   L   H   L
L   L   L   H
H   L   H   H
L   L   L   L
L   H   L   H
L   H   H   H
H   L   H   H
H   H   H   H
H   L   L   H - trig at col4
H   H   L   H - L at col4      -1
L   H   L   H
L   H   L   L
L   L   L   L - trig col3
H   L   H   L - W at col3     +4
H   L   H   H
H   H   H   L
H   L   L   H
H   H   H   L - trig col1
L   H   L   L - W at col1     +1
L   H   L   H
L   H   H   H
L   L   H   L
L   L   L   H - trig col1
H   H   L   H - W at col1   +1
H   L   L   H
L   L   L   H
H   L   L   L - trig col3
L   H   H   H - W at col3   +1
H   L   H   L
H   L   H   H
L   H   L   H
L   H   L   L
H   H   H   H
H   H   L   H
H   H   H   L - trig col2
L   L   H   H - W at col2   +4
L   L   H   H
H   L   L   L
H   H   L   L
L   L   H   L
H   L   L   H
H   L   H   L
H   H   L   H
L   H   H   H
H   H   L   H
H   H   H   L
H   L   H   L
H   L   L   H
L   H   H   H
L   L   H   L
L   L   H   H
L   H   H   H
H   L   H   L - trig col3
H   L   H   L - L at col3   -1
L   L   L   L
H   H   H   H
L   H   L   H
L   L   H   H
L   H   L   L
H   L   L   H
L   H   H   H
H   L   H   L
H   L   L   H
L   H   L   H
H   L   L   H
L   L   H   L
H   L   H   L
H   L   L   H
L   L   H   L - trig col2
L   H   L   H - W at col2  +1
H   L   L   H
L   L   L   L
H   H   H   L
H   L   L   H
L   H   L   L


This is just to show how I believe it to be better with a matrix 7 and flatbet. However, it will take longer to play and get bets.

If using bleep24's suggestion for betting after each EC trigger as it forms (no matrix) then I advise using the six-step prog applied to each of the three EC's (63u x 3) as mentioned earlier - because more losers will occur without results being recorded into a 7 wide matrix...

Regards,
A.



Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

bleep24

Hi Atlantis,

Couple of questions.   Where is a trusted RNG      On your flat betting what does 1 unit amount to in money terms.  It needs to be quite large considering the number of spins involved and the amount of triggers and wins minus losses.  Yes you could be tracking all 3 E/C`s to give more opportunities.  On live wheels it is only 1 spin per minute so first 30+ minutes are needed to form matrix.

Going to `retire` to The Winchester for a Newcastle Brown Ale to ponder.  I do not think that it helps but it sure is enjoyable!!

Regards,    Brian 

atlantis

This time I try it with a mild progression under the matrix 7 using previous RB results...

Bet against formation of six of same result in each vertical column of a 7-wide matrix grid.

There are 2 possible triggers to watch for in each vertical COLUMN.

Trigger 1
======
R
B
B
B
B
B - trigger to bet for R in this column next time


Trigger 2
======
B
R
R
R
R
R - trigger to bet for B in this column next time

Bet ONCE ONLY after a trigger

Win or lose await next new trigger formation.

0 is not recorded in the grid.

Advise use online dealer speed roulette or fastspin feature of trusted r.n.g. for quicker recording and play. Single 0 or nozero roulette.

Progression:
==========
After 2 consecutive losses increase stake by +1.
After 2 consecutive wins decrease stake by -1.
**Always reduce to 1u starting stake any time bank is at level high**

Example:

R B R B B B R
R B B B R B B
B B R B R R R
B B R R B B R
B R R B B R B
R B R B B B B
R B B R R R R
B R R R R B R
B B B R B B R
R R R B B R R
R B R R B R R
R B R B B B B---w1@col7  +1*
R R B R B B B
B R R R R B B---w1@col5  +2*
R R R R B R R
B B R R B R R
R R R B R B R
R B B B R R B
B B B R B B B
B R B B B R B
R B B B R B R
R R R B R B R
B B B B R B R
R B B B B R B
R R B B B B R---L1@col4  +1
B R B R R B R
B R R B B B B
B R B B R B R
B B B B R B B
R B B B B R R---w1@col6  +2*
B B B B R B R
R B B R R R R---w1@col4   +3*
B B R R R R B---w1@col3   +4*
B B B R B B B---L1@col2    +3
B R B R B R B
R B R R B R B
R B B R R R B---L1@col4    +2        2L's in a row  - add 1u to next stake
B B B B B B R---w2@col7    +4*      level high  - reduce to 1u
B B B R B B R
R R R B B B R
R R R R R R B
B B R B B B B
R B B B R B R
B B B R B B R
R B B R R R B
B R B B B B R
R B B B R R R
R B R R B B R---w1@col3   +5*
R R B B B R R
R R R R B B B
R B B R B R B
B B R B B R R---w1@col1  +6*
B R R R R R R---w1@col5  +7*
R R R R R B R
R B B B B B R
R R R R B R R
R R R B R B R---L1@col7   +6
R R R R R R B
R B B B B B B---L1@col1   +5         2L's in a row - add 1u to next stake
R R B R R R B
B R R R B R R
B B B R R R R
B B B B B B R
B B R B R B R
R B B B R B R
R B B B B R R
B R R B B R R---w2@col2--- +7* ; level high;  L1@col7--- +6
R R B R B R R
R B B R R B R
R B R B R R B
B R B B B R R
B R B B R R R
B B R R R R R
R R B R R R R
B R R B R R R---L1@col6    +5       2L's in a row - add 1u to next stake
R R B B R B B---w2@col7    +7*     level high  - reduce to 1u
B R B B B R R---w1@col5    +8*
B B B R B B R
R R B B B R R
B B B R R R B
R R R B B B R---w1@col3     +9*
B R B B R B R
B R B R R B B
R B B R B R B
B R B B B B R
B R R R B B R
B R B R B B B
R B B R B B B
R R R B R R B---w1@col5     +10*
B R R R R B R
B B B R B B B
B B R R R R R
B B R R B B R
R B R R R R B
B R B R B B B---L1@col4       +9
B R B R R B B
B B R R R B B
R B B B R B B
B B R B R R B---L1@col7         +8        2L's in a row - add 1u to next stake
B B R R R B R
R R B B R B B---L2@col5         +6 
B R R B R B B
B R R R R B R
B R R R B B R
R R R B B R B---w2@col6          +8
B B B B R B R---w2@col2          +10*   2W's in a row - subtract 1u from next stake
R B B R R B B
R R B R B B B
B R B R R B B
R R B B B R B
R B R B B R R---w1@col3           +11*
R B R B R B R
R R B B B B B
R B R B R B R
B B B R B B R---w1@col1            +12*   ---w1@col4     +13*
B R R B R R B
B B B R B R R
B R B B R B B
R R R R B R R
R B R R R B B
B B R R B B B
B R B B B B B
B R B B B B B
R B R B R R B
R R B R R B R---w1@col7             +14*
R R B B R B B
R R R R B B R
B B B B B R B
R B B R B R R
B B R R R B B
R R B B B B R
R R B R B B B
B B B R R R R
B R R R R B R
R R R R R B R
B B B R B B R
R B R B R R R---w1@col4               +15*
R B R R B R B---w1@col7               +16* Stopped.
B R B B B R R
R B B B B B B
B B B R B R B
B B R B R B B

Highest bet = 2u.
To get MORE bets - compile similar matrix for O/E and H/L results at same time and play with separate banks!

Regards,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

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