P.A :PREACHING about HG!

[P.A]

Ladies and Gentlemen,
Below I presented, a table, of the possibilities, of how the w/l will scrambled about...in the riddle of EC ,only 30w/100spins.

After u scrutinize the table.
Some of u here will "OHO! I understand know!",

and from here on,after some research by yourself,
will sooner or later, own your own HG.

If u cant understand, then it either u just too new here,
or not really understand, after all this while,

or just plain lazy, and uninterested to learn.
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below an OVERSIMPLIFIED table,
and strictly related to the HYPOTHESIS of the riddle,
of  "how to win, if only 30win/100spins, EC bet".

0w & 0L,then remain 30w/70L,[100spins]
1W&1L , then remain W29/69L
2W&2L , then W28/68L
3W3L , then 27W/67L
4W4L , then W26/66L
5W5L , then W/L
6W6L , then W/L
7W7L , then W/L
8W8L , then W/L
9W9L , then W/L
10W10L , then 20W/60L
11W11L , then W/L
12W12L , then W/L
13W13L , then W/L
14W14L , then W/L
15W15L , then W/L
16W16L , then W/L
17W17L , then W/L
18W18L , then W/L
19W19L , then W/L
20W20L , then 10W/50L
21W21L , then W/L
22W22L , then W/L
23W23L , then W/L
24W24L , then W/L
25W25L , then 5W/45L
26W26L , then W/L
27W27L , then W/L
28W28L , then W/L
29W29L , then W/L
30W30L , then 0W/40L
30W31L , then 0W/39L
30W32L , then 0W/38L

u need to fill in the blank!
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Above table, after u scrutinize them, some of u here,

u will soon understand , how to win,
in the 30w/100spins riddle,

and u on way to make your own HG,
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when u want to cross the busy street,
what u do first, before u dash across?

answer.
u make sure it safe, before u dash...
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Dont lose your TEMPER, if u cant understand!
reread slo:lllyyyy all my posts.

Any opinion?
Thanks.

[Chrisbis]

u need to fill in the blank!
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Err....what "blank" P.A. ?
I see some 'Zeros' at the end of your list...but no "blank".

THIS would be a blank.......

27W27L , then W/L
28W28L , then W/L
29W29L , then W/L
30W30L , then blankW/40L
30W31L , then blankW/39L
30W32L , then blankW/38L

Is that the area of our focus now?.....cause if it is, I would say...."Don't bet!....Spin virtual(or establish new bet selection)
(to get your 111 spin total), but don't risk

Edit:
100 spin total.

[RayManZ]

I said this earlier. If the minimal W/L ratio is 30/70. Just stop betting when you hit 30W's. Just finish the session without betting and as soon as you get a total of 100 (W+L) start a new session with a 30W wingoal.

[atlantis]

Hi PA,

If the minimal W/L ratio is 30/70. Just stop betting when you hit 30W's. Just finish the session without betting and as soon as you get a total of 100 (W+L) start a new session with a 30W wingoal.

That seem to make sense to me too.

A.

[Chrisbis]

Great post below, over at Roulette 30 forum, very related to this topic, a real life example.
Its good reading.
You may have to login to view/read

rouletteforum dot roulette30 dotcom/index.php?topic=267.msg2133#msg2133

the forum wouldn't let me post up a link from Roulette30 site...must be on the "forbidden" list! lol

[Kattila]

Yes it make sense what P.A. talks about and i agree that he has made his homework about roulette and there are still many things to be said and test, i mean real test ( long run simulation if possible).
I will add this examples ( some already posted before) about how i use my own MM/Lw strategy/Virtual wins/Triggers/Variance avoidance/ possitive progressions , something that i was * preaching* for years ,I prefer Dozens and Columns ( also 9 numbers bets), this can be applied to ECs and others, also there are much better bet selections. Some of this examples ( on excel) are just examples how to bet on worst scenarios.

cheers

[atlantis]

Surely that OVERSIMPLIFIED table that PA posted is going to be different if you are not betting every spin of the 100 spins though.

For instance how would you record it on my EC idea posted earlier....:

                                                                 W/L ratio (bets)
                                                               =============== 
                                                                 remain 30w/70L
R
B
B - vwin B             
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                          +1       remain 29w/70L           
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                          +2        remain 28w/70L
R
R - vwin R
B - trigger to bet B
R - lost; reset B; trigger to bet R     +1         remain 28w/69L   
R - won                                         +2         remain 27w/69L
B
R - trigger to bet R
B - lost ; reset R                              +1       remain 27w/68L
B - vwin B
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                            +2       remain 26w/68L
B
B
B
B
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                             +3       remain 25w/68L

That cannot be right can it? As I am recording as BETS w/l - So there is something I do not understand or am interpreting wrongly.
Someone help me out here.

A.

[Chrisbis]

You are only counting bets placed vs Win/Lose ration marking.

Is does not account for the fact that more spins have past (spun)...but then again, you cannot have a loss, if you didn't bet on a spin (real or virtual!)

How about doing the same analysis, but with Real & Virtual annotation?


.................................................................. W/L ratio (bets)..........................Virtual W/L ratio (bets)
                                                               ===============                    ==================
                                                                 remain 30w/70L                              remain 30W/70L
R---tracking                                                                                                      (no bet real or Virtual)
B---tracking                                                                                                      (no bet real or Virtual)
B - vwin B                                                                                                          remain 29W/70L                     
R                                                                                                                        remain 29w/69L
B - trigger to bet B                                                                                            remain 29W/68L
B - won                                          +1       remain 29w/70L                               remain 28W/68L
R                                                                                                                        remain 28W/67L
B - trigger to bet B                                                                                            remain 28W/66L
B - won                                          +2        remain 28w/70L                              remain 27W/66L
R                                                                                                                        remain 27W/65L
etc
?

[RFMAXX]

Atlantis, looking good. But i guess pa counts the w/l ratio consecutive.
Testing his way of play with two countings: the w/l ratio and the percentage of r/b for the trigger...
Hope we get more hints from pa.

[atlantis]

This would seem to make sense and more relevant to my particular idea...

Stats on the appearance of BOTH sides of an EC in 128 spins (eg R/B)
= 32 singles
= 32 series... of 2 or more

Trigger: Bet ONCE ONLY for series after a Virtual Series Win. (vwin)
If WIN continue to bet for series after next SINGLE win on that side
If LOSE wait for new trigger: virtual series win (vwin)

                                                               Poss wins in 128 spins
                                                               ==============
                                                                   32w/128
R
B
B - vwin B                                                    31w/126             
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                          +1         30w/123           
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                          +2         29w/120
R
R - vwin R                                                   28w/118
B - trigger to bet B
R - lost; reset B; trigger to bet R       +1        28w/116       
R - won                                           +2        27w/115
B
R - trigger to bet R
B - lost ; reset R                              +1        27w/112
B - vwin B                                                   26w/111
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                            +2       25w/108
B
B
B
B
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                            +3      24w/101

A.

[denzie]

So 30w is rare....

So...we track till we sure its safe to start.
That would work but could take forever .......

[atlantis]

Test session of 128 R/B spins:

At spin 32 there are 11 singles and 8 series
At spin 64 there are 19 singles and 17 series
At spin 96 there are 26 singles and 25 series
At spin 128 there are 35 singles and 33 series (14 black streaks ; 19 red streaks)

There were three occurrences of green 0.

This is typical result over 128 spins.
Avg = 32 singles; 32 series.

A.

[Chrisbis]

Live dealer wheel, airball or RNG feed?

[P.A]

Err....what "blank" P.A. ?
I see some 'Zeros' at the end of your list...but no "blank".

THIS would be a blank.......

27W27L , then W/L
28W28L , then W/L
29W29L , then W/L
30W30L , then blankW/40L
30W31L , then blankW/39L
30W32L , then blankW/38L

Is that the area of our focus now?.....cause if it is, I would say...."Don't bet!....Spin virtual(or establish new bet selection)
(to get your 111 spin total), but don't risk

Edit:
100 spin total.

Gentlemen,
That table is a 'Strictly for the riddle of [30win/100 game],
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15860.0
a hypothesis,an oversimplified table, that u can see and u need to calculate, the win/loss ratio.. so that u will understand how to see variance.
It just an excercise, to make u understand better.

and then think out  ideas how to beat that riddle of 30wins, in 100spins
Thanks for your comments.


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I fill in the blank for u to see...

0w & 0L,then remain 30w/70L,[100spins]
1W&1L , then remain W29/69L=100spis
2W&2L , then W28/68L=100spis
3W3L , then 27W/67L==100spis
4W4L , then W26/66L==100spis
5W5L , then W25/65L=100
6W6L , then W24/64L=100spis
7W7L , then W23/63L=100spis
8W8L , then W22/62L=100spis
9W9L , then W21/61L=100spins
10W10L , then 20W/60L=100spis

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it just a table of how ,
a hypothesis, if there are 30wins, in 100spins,

[it just a game to make u understand how to see variance]

say..
10W10L , then 20W/60L
what that mean?

The riddle game, say , there would have 30win, in 100spins.

so , after u see...
10W10L ,had happen, then n the next 80spins,


will have  20W/60L...['20win' left and '60lose' left]
please understand.

it nothing to do with  a HG has 30win, it just a riddle,and a table of lose win, to make u understand hoe to see variance.

it just, to show u , how to think out ,
ideas, of  how to beat that riddle of 30wins, in 100spins
please read slowly.

[atlantis]

Hi Chrisbis,

It shouldn't matter.

You can test those stats in RX using autostop (with 128 spins default) on random numbers or use 128 actual real roulette results and then look at the RX stats for appearance of Black/Red EC. Count them and they will be at or about the average.
See screenshots:

A.