Grassroots offspring....raymanz tweak

[RouletteGhost]

I am glad you are trying to be transparent with your tests as that is the only way to go. It is not that I don't like this particular bet for some reason or another. Here I would rather say that I don't like playing martingales for real money on not enough tested bets, and we shared opinions how much triggers that should be.

As most of every other new roulette players my first loss with real money was because I was using martingale on not enough tested bet selection. I was playing single dozen then. I ll never forget the thrill of thinking how smart I was, and already planned on what I will spend easy earned money. Thrill of having ATM in your living room that can never be emptied.

A bit later as most of every new roulette students I come up with system on single numbers. This time I am smarter I thought. My plan was to load my bank with enormous amount of units and waiting for the first shot, being ready to withstand brutal and long fight, needed just a first single shot whenever it comes.So it says, again, martingale. But this time, the trap is so shrewdly set up even for so invincible game I said. Those numbers were so called sleepers which I thought are governed by law of the third.  ( word thought because today I don't use those terms anymore. No sleeping numbers for me and "law of the third" is not actually a law. More consequence of mathematics in this game, and that is governed by some other laws in nature)

It was posted on roulette forum and it raised some dust because first tests were all incredibly positive and it seemed it is what roulette forum world was waiting for... My friend Niksa started to play it for real money putting about 400€ in casino I think. In 2-3 months of every day play he earned about 1500€ If I remember right with starting bet of 0.10€ on single number. Then the first loss came which took almost half of earnings, as progression was very steep and expensive. But we said who cares, total loss is so rare that we wont even care for that. By calculated probability for us to lose, we thought it will happen once in a blue moon and we will earn much more till that day. We couldn't see this anyhow else then profitable.

But second loss came much faster then we predicted, and bad and very very nerve strained sessions started to coming more often for anyone's taste. We were tweaking the method in any way we could think to prevent such situations and in the middle of one tweak, the final lose appeared from nowhere  That wiped everything invested till then...

Nausea while your so expensive (and of course smart) bombs paid with your so hard earned money are missing your targets is something what just can't be explained. You have to feel that to understand, but by all means don't try 

Ok I could say much more to this, but for gods sake it is about time to end the post.

Drazen, people are smart enough to identify themselves with the moral here, you don't have to go to even greater extent. And proof for that they have in your posts.

Anyway for some reason having said all that I am in fear that I didn't contributed enough here. So lets try to do something more to that. Anyhow from perspective of method advocates it should be.

I am sorry I haven't read the whole thread about this idea. Don't resent me. It is now close to 60 pages. Quite enough for one thread.

I don't know have you tried the idea of starting to play against all dozens same for example? Like 111, 222, or 333. You might find that this hits also very good

I hope I didn't stole the show.

Cheers

Drazen im at work right now but will read in depth later

Thanks

Rich

[ddarko]

Soemthing along the lines what ego stated in grassroots

I've gone through all the posts from ego in that thread & cannot see anything about uniques being different ?

If you can find it when you have finished work, I'd appreciate that. I'd luv there to be a reason.....

[RouletteGhost]

I've gone through all the posts from ego in that thread & cannot see anything about uniques being different ?

If you can find it when you have finished work, I'd appreciate that. I'd luv there to be a reason.....

A reason for what?

[ddarko]

re posts #20 thru #23

[RouletteGhost]

re posts #20 thru #23

Because if i put one hand on my head, spin around 4 times, and bet that way, it wins EVERYTIME. Crazy, really

Oh and the minutehand on the clock must be between 1 and 6

[keepontryin]

ive done everything you sugges....t hand on head.... spin 4 time.....s i even bought new white shoes how come im not winning?

[RouletteGhost]

ive done everything you sugges....t hand on head.... spin 4 time.....s i even bought new white shoes how come im not winning?

You didnt win at all on raymanz tweak after 3 uniques only? Buy new white shoes

[RouletteGhost]

All jokes aside though. If more people would test rays tweak and post that would be cool

Ill do more this weekend

Much much less betting opportunities.  Maybe 5 an hour. But can increase by playing columns alongside

[Tacwell]

You didnt win at all on raymanz tweak after 3 uniques only? Buy new white shoes

uh, I thought starting a new thread would help re working toward a common goal, not repeating the confirmation bias in the other thread.

[RouletteGhost]

Tacwell,

I made new thread because raymanz tweak deserved it

We will see 5 to 6 unique mini games an hour and a repeat of a unique roughly every 5 hours. Put it this way. If we see 5 unique an hour what are the chances 2 of those will be identical AND back to back? THAT is the bet

So the bet is a good bet

Ddarko wants me to EXPLAIN that. No need to. You either see it or you dont.

Tacwell if you are truly interested go get some real live spins from real spins thread and see in sets of 3 how many uniques we get per 100 spins. Take the 100 spins and put it into 3 spin mini games. And you will see 5 to 6 uniques. So simple!

66,000 spins has a unique repeat once every 2200 spins. Divide that by 6 uniques. Once every 350 spins a unique repeats in that lot of 66k. 350 spins takes about 5 hours. It makes sense.

Exploit it! And use money management when the time comes!

The numbers and proof are there. It was what happened in 66k spins and its what happened in my tests as you can see. We will see 5 betting opportunities an hour

If you want to take advantage of that and play it then please do. If not, no harm done just dont play it. I can only do so much. By providing the test results and the facts is all i can do

It took nick a month to see a unique repeat. He saw 123123103. The ONLY reason he broke even and did not profit is because he did not have insurance on 0. He doubled his bankroll. The 3rd repeat killed it for him because of insurance 0. I hate to say it but i told ya so. 0 will bite. I dont want to see anyone lose. Not even ddarko.

So i will say again: if 5 betting opportunities an hour with a chance of a loss every 4 to 5 hours isnt good for you then do not play it. It isnt for everyone.

[MoneyT101]

I tested this under a few games ive played over the last few weeks and i had one repeat on the dozens. 

Just an FYI

Ive been playing on paper a variations of the 123 or repeats trying to see what i'm more comfortable with.

Last night i played 2 games of 60 spins  but i played against 123(all 6 showing up) and it went well.  $.25 and i made $30 on the actual roullette machine not airball.  I'll try to post a pic of my scribble scrabble lmao.  I hate 0 about 3 times in game 1 and 2 times in game 2 lol

[RouletteGhost]

I tested this under a few games ive played over the last few weeks and i had one repeat on the dozens. 

Just an FYI

Ive been playing on paper a variations of the 123 or repeats trying to see what i'm more comfortable with.

Last night i played 2 games of 60 spins  but i played against 123(all 6 showing up) and it went well.  $.25 and i made $30 on the actual roullette machine not airball.  I'll try to post a pic of my scribble scrabble lmao.  I hate 0 about 3 times in game 1 and 2 times in game 2 lol

Thanks for posting. I appreciate it


With that one loss still in good profit

As expected a positive test result

No test results from those that say it cant work though. Funny.

Good job!

Oh and perfect example why 0 is important. Saved u twice.

[RouletteGhost]

Quick message for thelaw

I see now why your moving target was successful

With 5 uniques an hour what are the chances we are going to hit it right on target? See what i mean

[thelaw]

I tested this under a few games ive played over the last few weeks and i had one repeat on the dozens. 

Just an FYI

Ive been playing on paper a variations of the 123 or repeats trying to see what i'm more comfortable with.

Last night i played 2 games of 60 spins  but i played against 123(all 6 showing up) and it went well.  $.25 and i made $30 on the actual roullette machine not airball.  I'll try to post a pic of my scribble scrabble lmao.  I hate 0 about 3 times in game 1 and 2 times in game 2 lol

Look at all those first round finishes!!!

[thelaw]

Quick message for thelaw

I see now why your moving target was successful

With 5 uniques an hour what are the chances we are going to hit it right on target? See what i mean

It might just give us more betting opportunities.

At this point, even with waiting for the combo to appear, I'm seeing a nice pattern of first-round finishes.

The only question now is: what progression to use???

So far I've seen too many anomalies for a straight Marti, but perhaps a modified Marti where you wait to be down a certain number of units, then increase bet.