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New system/idea: Mist Trap

Started by falkor2k15, Jan 27, 12:58 PM 2016

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Buffster

I understand the cycles, but why would you continue betting in a cycle that has been won( new high) ... why persist to trap the repeat?

Roulette is about winning and not to prove a point.

I guess this must be a new way of thinking...some kind of zen thingy...


Buffster

falkor2k15

Every time we win we are taking a warp zone towards that repeat number. When we start to get near it and we are still at full BR then we can start to increase bets since we are then guaranteed a win on the single numbers. Hopefully by the end of the week we shall see that in action.

For now here's another good set: there hasn't yet been a repeat number after 13 spins (to be continued into stage 9+), but we still finished 3 units in profit even though the last spin of the set ended in a loss...

"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

Buffster

Let me get this straight...

The whole concept is to win on single numbers...

Your betting all over the place trying to trap who knows what....BUT WHERE IS YOUR SINGLE NUMBER BET ???

Buffster

falkor2k15

The single number bet will be coming a few stages down the line... first we have the streets coming up. If we win on the streets then we loop back to the Double Streets! Eventually we will come to the splits (a win on those will push us back to the cheaper streets) and finally Mist Trap will end on the single numbers. Hopefully, we will be into spin 20 by then - but most permutations are set to get killed off in the next few stages before we get to individual numbers I would imagine...
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

Buffster

So here, let me help you out...

Firstly the sweet spot for repeats is spins 7,8,9

So why son't you start your betting as of spin 7....your choice...

Secondly why don't you adjust your bets to include a bet on the single numbers, that way when the repeat hits....MORE PROFIT

Maybe I'm just not seeing it the way you do...


Buffster

falkor2k15

If we wait for 7,8,9 then we miss on potential EC profits during spins 1-6.

If we bet on single numbers only too soon then there is more chance we will reach the table limits on our way towards spin 25 (worse case scenario) - but by betting the official areas of the carpet we give ourselves insurance cover along the way - so we have a chance of coming face to face with spin 25 as a guaranteed winner instead of waiting around maybe days for 25 individual numbers to appear virtually (it might hit on spin 19). And we have pocketed bits and pieces of profit along the way, including all repeated numbers - possibly a couple of zeroes as well since it's covered at all times.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

MrJ

@Buffster >> You cant tell them, its a waste of time. I estimate, they (not all) are around 6-8 years behind. Meaning, they (not all) will have to go through "methods" such as this for years to come.

Oh well, I lose nothing, good luck.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

falkor2k15

Quote from: MrJ on Feb 02, 10:42 PM 2016
@Buffster >> You cant tell them, its a waste of time. I estimate, they (not all) are around 6-8 years behind. Meaning, they (not all) will have to go through "methods" such as this for years to come.

Oh well, I lose nothing, good luck.

Ken
Why so patronising? Why not just admit it's a good idea even if it doesn't work? Roulette is either beatable (A) - or all the mathematicians are correct about gambler's fallacy and whatnot (B). There's no 6-8 years training that puts you into some elite position here!
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

falkor2k15

Just looking at some stats of the accumulative profit for each of the stages 1-8 so far coded:
Stage 1: -308
Stage 2: -526
Stage 3: -24
Stage 4: -260
Stage 5: 0
Stage 6: -2393
Stage 7: -5479
Stage 8: 4893


By stage 8, Random is under intense pressure and if we played opposite on stage 7 (I will test a mod just out of curiosity) then we should be into major profits. And, progressively, these results are not indicative of the curving of data - nor is it affected by law of large numbers.

In the larger scheme of things I don't think we should switch to playing opposite yet because we want to build up the pressure for an even more powerful PP trap further down the line.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

Buffster

Let's try this again


Seeing your stages 1-7 are NOT profitable in general....Why do you not play them virtually ( NO RISK ) and then ATTACK starting at STAGE 8

Make any sense ?

Buffster

ps..I still can't follow your betting scheme.

falkor2k15

All those kinds of modifications are to be tested at the end - without losing track of the original aim - so that needs to be completed first.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

MrJ

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 03, 03:41 AM 2016
Why so patronising? Why not just admit it's a good idea even if it doesn't work? Roulette is either beatable (A) - or all the mathematicians are correct about gambler's fallacy and whatnot (B). There's no 6-8 years training that puts you into some elite position here!

I stand behind my statement 100%. 6-8 years behind for most (not all) here. Like it, hate it, disagree with it, I'm a jerk etc.

6-8 years, estimate.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

Buffster

QuoteWhen we start to get near it and we are still at full BR then we can start to increase bets since we are then guaranteed a win on the single numbers

QuoteStage 1: -308
Stage 2: -526
Stage 3: -24
Stage 4: -260
Stage 5: 0
Stage 6: -2393
Stage 7: -5479

From what I can see from the numbers you posted, Up to stage 7 you are really far away from being at full BR.

Is it starting to make sense yet ?

Buffster

maestro

falkor have look on arithmetic progression ...just quick 100 something spins real money rng.... just  :thumbsup:wanted to share sorry if off topic
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

falkor2k15

Quote from: maestro on Feb 02, 05:42 PM 2016
BBRRBBRR>9

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BBRBBRRB>9

RRBRRBBR>9

BRBBRBRR>9

RBRRBRBB>9

BRBRRBRB>9

RBRBBRBR>9

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RBBRRBBR>9




SO you can wait for for five numbers to come ex    5, 13 ,33 ,14, 1  see what set belong to ,in this case is last set so bet Ap to happen so next bet R if lose,R if lose,B if lose comes lost as spin 9 can be either red or black...hope is clear...i am just in a bit of thinking mod

You only playing spins 6,7, and 8 right? Are you doubling up on a loss or just flat betting?
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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