Grassroots 123 (Streets)

[RouletteGhost]

At first I debated whether or not I should post this.

But I know some of you will test and suggest tweaks so here it is.

A grassroots based on streets. Random against random at its finest.

No bet scheme etched in stone. Can be against previous 3. Can be against 123. Can be against 321. Can be something you play for fun money when you are bored. Nothing set in stone just an idea.

Group 1 streets : 1-2-3 / 10-11-12 / 19-20-21 / 28-29-30
Group 2 streets : 4-5-6 / 13-14-15 / 22-23-24 / 31-32-33
Group 3 streets : 7-8-9 / 16-17-18 / 25-26-27 / 34-35-36

Here is the first 42 spins of American zumma and how they correlate to the above groups


232
212
221
322
312
331                   no exact repeats
223                   no 123
121
213
112
313
102
331
312


what can we do with this bet selection? original grass roots against 123 hit and run? who knows....

if you choose to play this against 123 then each bet would be 8 streets (24 numbers), a layout of 8 chips.

One thing to notice from the 42 spin example above is, no exact repeat from line of 3 above.

Too early in testing to say anything at this point. just an idea as of now

[SimonZed1]

Very interesting idea!! Thanks RG!!

[RouletteGhost]

You welcome

I am seeing spectacular results using this bet selection playing against previous 3 only when unique on rolling basis. But exhausted

[RFMAXX]

wheel distribution looking good...will test it for sure. thx

[RouletteGhost]

Looking more into this

When a section repeats like 22 bet the other 2 once

So 22 now bet 13

Flat bet

In my example. 7 triggers, 6 wins, 1 loss. That's about 1 hour of play

[RouletteGhost]

In other words if any group hits twice in a row bet the other 2 groups one time only.

Flat bet

Win or lose wait for next time a section hits twice in a row

[RouletteGhost]

Another 42 spins from Zumma starting at spin 43

Not sure what I want to do with this

but I am liking: when a section repeats, bet the other 2 once. So that would have been 5 wins, 2 losses. Slow I know, this is one hour of play. 1 hour of play yielding only 1 unit is eh ok, but with larger units this is A O K


213
112
321
322
311
311
013
232
312
322
133
330
122
212

[keepontryin]

try this .....out of the last 3 decision bet the dominate dozen till a win in the next level......distribution of streets may makes an interesting dealer signature play.....

[keepontryin]

im sorry did not mean dozen...but rather street group as outlined by rg...

[RouletteGhost]

thanks for the idea

any tweaks are welcome here

trying to make this bet selection into something good

[RouletteGhost]

AMK opposite method: good here

[RouletteGhost]

no unique repeat here....

[SimonZed1]

Very interesting stuff. I will test tonight on live dealers as soon as I am finished getting my daily 10 units with Grassroots. I have around 20 bucks left for this kind of testing on Dublinbet so I will play a little on the low limit tables. I like the idea of flat bet.... Ill report after.

Might be good for nights when I am tired and I dont feel like going 1-3-9-27....

Simon.

[SimonZed1]

Ok. So here is a little report about my night at Dublinbet. This thing kept me awake longer than expected....

Played 42 spins. Started with 22.60$. Ended with 23.80$. Played with 0.10$ units. Thats a gain of 12 units.
Won 10 games, lost 3 game. Not bad....

So, when you lose, you lose 8 units, but when you win, you win 4 units. So if we are going to flatbet this, we need 2 times more winners than loosers. From my initial testing, it seems to be the case. But 42 spins is definitively not enough to draw any conclusions.

Another thing I have noticed, 3 in a row arrive sometime, but I never got 4 in a row. So, if you loose with, let say, 1-1-1, rebet againt 1 and your are likely to gain back at least half of your initial loss. So that makes 1 less bet to get back. I wonder if there is a possibility of a progression here...

It is gonna need some love and some tweaking. But looks promissing. I will test 3000 spins, tweak it and write a 20 pages paper about it.... 

So now I have 1.20$ more in my account. I guess I'm gonna blow it all on a hand of Blackjack... 

Simon.

[edved77]

You welcome

I am seeing spectacular results using this bet selection playing against previous 3 only when unique on rolling basis. But exhausted

Hello RouletteGhost, I like your idea and it seems amazing in terms of W/L - I looked at just under 86,000 spins and got the following results:

Total spins - 85,671
Total sets of 3 (eg - 121, 322, 123 etc) = 28,558

When counting total wins and losses, I use following criteria:

Win - a pattern of 3 does not match previous pattern of 3 (I include the zero).
Loss - Exact pattern of 3 repeats eg 123, 123

On paper, the results are superb:

Total wins - 27, 644
Total losses - 912

The streaks are even crazier:

Longest win streak = 233
Longest Loss streak = 2 [yes 2!!!]

So out of 28,558 sets of 3, the most Losses in a row was 2 (6 spins betting 8 streets and zero).  It sounds crazy but that's what Excel is telling me.  See the attached results in notepad.  As I said I include the zero.

The numbers I used were obtained from several files off here and VLS over last 12 months - all bundled together.

Just thought I'd share these findings.

As for a betting plan, how best to handle the two losses in a row which is betting on 8 streets and the zero and losing 6 straight bets.  This obviously doesn't include the next 3 spins to get the win.

Unless I've messed up somewhere in Excel, these are really good results,

Thanks for sharing rouletteghost,

Edved