Grassroots 123 (Streets)

[RouletteGhost]

Thanks a lot for testing and the effort

I looked into against previous 3 pattern but had a loss in zumma (see above)

Maybe it was isolated I'll look some more

Any ideas are appreciated

[RouletteGhost]

I made this bet selection with hopes the random wheel could not spit out fixed patterns on it time and time again

As your tests show, looking good so far. 233 streak? Niceeeee

[SimonZed1]

Unless I've messed up somewhere in Excel, these are really good results,

Nice calculations!

I just hope that you are very wrong!! Cause if you are right, I`m about to quit my day job...!!! 

Simon.

[edved77]

I made this bet selection with hopes the random wheel could not spit out fixed patterns on it time and time again

As your tests show, looking good so far. 233 streak? Niceeeee

I've never seen a win streak like that in my life.  If you have any spins you want me to test I'd be happy to give them a go?

[edved77]

Nice calculations!

I just hope that you are very wrong!! Cause if you are right, I`m about to quit my day job...!!! 

Simon.

cheers- wouldnt that be nice! I need to test some more spin data - perhaps from speilbank's archives.  If you have any live spins, send them over.  Just cannot believe there werent more than 2 losses in a row - it's all there in my previous attachment.  Crazy.

I guess flat betting, up on a win down a loss, could work with this considering the streaks?

[RouletteGhost]

It's all about the bet selection

Can the wheel produce the same pattern over and over on this one? Yes it can. Will it? NO

[RouletteGhost]

Now that we have the bet selection how do we play it

[edved77]

Now that we have the bet selection how do we play it

Still working on that. In the meantime attached is a guide to the cloth and what streets you would need to cover.

Groups 1 & 2 and 2 & 3 offer the option of betting double streets whilst 1 & 3 has a couple of streets on either end of double streets.

In the heat of the moment I think I'd need a guide like this - it isnt too hard to memorise with some practice.

[RouletteGhost]

Another idea using this bet selection

Works well so far

Whatever group hits bet the other 2 once. In a loss sit out until new trigger

So if the last group hit was 1, bet 2 and 3 one time

Flat bet

[RouletteGhost]

example. my first test from page 1.

how I would play "bet the other 2 after a hit"

1 hits bet 2 and 3.
2 hits bet 1 and 3.
3 hits bet 1 and 2

on a loss sit out the next spin just in case there is a streak, if there is a streak sit out until there is a new trigger (so we avoid 22222)

FLAT BET


2
3- bet 1 and 3. WIN
2- bet 1 and 2. WIN
2- bet 1 and 3. LOSE
1- sit out, just in case 2 streaks
2- bet 2 and 3. WIN
2- bet 1 and 3. LOSE
2- sit out, just in case 2 streaks, oh look at that its a 2, we sat out
1- waiting for 2 to end, 1 hits, begin again
3- bet 2 and 3. WIN
2- bet 1 and 2. WIN
2- bet 1 and 3. LOSE
3- sit out
1- bet 1 and 2. WIN
2- bet 2 and 3. WIN
3- bet 1 and 3. WIN
3- bet 1 and 2. LOSE
1- sit out                 
2- bet 1 and 2. WIN
2- bet 1 and 3. LOSE
3- sit out                   
1- bet 1 and 2. WIN
2- bet 2 and 3. WIN
1- bet 1 and 3. WIN
2- bet 2 and 3. WIN
1- bet 1 and 3. WIN
3- bet 2 and 3. WIN
1- bet 1 and 2. WIN
1- bet 2 and 3. LOSE
2- sit out
3- bet 1 and 3. WIN
1- bet 1 and 2. WIN
3- bet 2 and 3. WIN
1- bet 1 and 2. WIN
0- bet 2 and 3. LOSE, unless you have insurance on green goblin
2- sit out
3- bet 1 and 3. WIN
3- bet 1 and 2. LOSE
1- sit out
3- bet 2 and 3. WIN
1- bet 1 and 2. WIN
2- bet 2 and 3. WIN

21 wins (X 4 units)
8 losses (X 8 units)

win 4 units on a win
lose 8 units on a loss

total +20

and hey its flat bet

and this is 1 hour of real play.

$200 bank with $1 units

[RouletteGhost]

on a rolling basis this time. against the previous group


2
3 W
2 W
2 L
1 W
2 W
2 L
2 L
1 W
3 W
2 W
2 L
3 W
1 W
2 W
3 W
3 L
1 W                   
2 W
2 L
3 W                   
1 W
2 W
1 W
2 W
1 W
3 W
1 W
1 L
2 W
3 W
1 W
3 W
1 W
0 L
2
3 W
3 L
1 W
3 W
1 W
2 W


31 wins X 4 units   +124 units
9 losses X 8 units  -72 units

+52 units FLAT BET

[denzie]

All those clustered wins. .....parlay that!

[celescliff]

Aiming for +30. Reach it in 50 spins. Tested with a mild progression on this one, but would recommend flat. If I loose I wait til a new group street has come up.

Code Select Expand


Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net
0 0 0 0 0 0
1 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 0
2 22 Bet 80 120 -80 40 40
3 11 Bet 80 120 -80 40 80
4 6 Bet 80 120 -80 40 120
5 34 Bet 80 120 -80 40 160
5 99 DC 0 0 0 0 0
6 26 Bet 80 0 -80 -80 80
7 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 80
8 6 Bet 80 120 -80 40 120
9 21 Bet 80 120 -80 40 160
10 4 Bet 80 120 -80 40 200
11 26 Bet 80 120 -80 40 240
12 35 Bet 80 0 -80 -80 160
13 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 160
14 36 No Bet 0 0 0 0 160
15 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 160
16 25 Bet 80 120 -80 40 200
17 6 Bet 80 120 -80 40 240
18 0 Bet 80 0 -80 -80 160
19 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 160
20 28 Bet 80 0 -80 -80 80
21 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 80
22 15 Bet 80 0 -80 -80 0
23 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 0
24 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 0
25 18 Bet 160 240 -160 80 80
26 24 Bet 160 240 -160 80 160
26 99 DC 0 0 0 0 0
27 9 Bet 160 240 -160 80 240
28 17 Bet 80 0 -80 -80 160
29 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 160
30 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 160
31 36 Bet 80 120 -80 40 200
32 6 Bet 80 120 -80 40 240
33 14 Bet 80 0 -80 -80 160
34 6 No Bet 0 0 0 0 160
35 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 160
36 35 Bet 80 120 -80 40 200
37 24 Bet 80 120 -80 40 240
38 35 Bet 80 120 -80 40 280
39 7 Bet 80 0 -80 -80 200
40 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 200
41 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 200
42 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 200
43 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 200
44 18 Bet 80 120 -80 40 240
45 35 Bet 80 0 -80 -80 160
46 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 160
47 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 160
48 33 Bet 160 240 -160 80 240
49 3 Bet 80 120 -80 40 280
50 9 Bet 80 120 -80 40 320


[Wally Gator]

Using Notto's progression of +1 on a loss and 2 wins before -1 could work well on this.

[bleep24]

Hello edved77,

Are your`e results for dozens?    Do not forget with this system we are only betting 24 numbers (2/3) so whilst you may be correct we would have to have been betting every time on the correct numbers.

I have looked at Live on Wm. Hill   8 sessions of 39 spins. I chose that number because our expectation is to win 26 and lose 13 - break even.
What I found using current system was that results pretty much stayed close to 2/3. Longest losing streak was 3.  Quite a few 2`s so miss next spin looks way to go.  On my experience you might as well just play the selections from 1 & 3, or 1 & 2, or 2 & 3 continuously and probably get same results.  A light progression looks a possibility as losing streaks seem to be short.

Bleep24