Grassroots 123 (Streets)

[Rourke]

So out of 28,558 sets of 3, the most Losses in a row was 2 (6 spins betting 8 streets and zero).  It sounds crazy but that's what Excel is telling me.  See the attached results in notepad.  As I said I include the zero.

Hi Edved77

Just to understand when you say "28,558 sets of 3": Do I understand this correctly when you say sets of 3, that you are betting 3 times? and of those 3 bets you win or?

Thanks - James

[MrG]

Hello,

I saw statistics from edved77 which is really interesting, so I decided to try myself. I ran statistics for 500 000 no zero spins from random org and 1 000 000 generated no zero spins. I used groups of streets suggested by RouletteGhost at the beginning.

Results are close to the results of edved77, though a bit worse.
In edved’s statistics there is 1 win in about 3 spins (85 671/27 644), there is 1 loss in about 94 spins (85 671/912) and 1 loss per about 30 wins (27 644/912).
In my statistics for 500 000 random org spins there is 1 win in about 3 spins, there is 1 loss in about 80 spins and 1 loss per about 25 wins.
In statistic for 1 000 000 spins there is 1 win in about 3 spins, there is 1 loss in about 81 spins and 1 loss per about 26 wins.
I’m not good at math hopefully I counted it well. 

Results for 500 000 spins:
Total wins: 160 434
Wins on first spin: 110 875
Wins on second spin: 37 123
Wins on third spin: 12 436
Max wins in a row: 228
Total losses: 6 231
Max losses in a row: 4

Results for 1 000 000 spins:
Total wins: 321 009
Wins on first spin: 222 292
Wins on second spin: 74 101
Wins on third spin: 24 616
Max wins in a row: 247
Total losses: 12 323
Max losses in a row: 3

[RouletteGhost]

Thanks.

The way im testing right now is (see my chart) against previous 3 in the 3 wide matrix

I bet 1st spin. If win sit out next 2. If lose bet 2nd spin. If win sit out next one. If lose also sit out next one

No bet 3rd spin

1st and 2nd only with a 1 3 progression. Total risk of 8 units. Easily survives. As you and edved have shown minimal number of wins on spin 3 and the progression gets to deep on spin 3 so i dont play it. I am content with a 1 3 progression and stop there

Wont be sharing results or tweaks anymore. Just wanted to thank you

[denzie]

Play first bet only ! Parlay!   

[RouletteGhost]

Edit. Its 8 streets

So my math was wrong

It would be

Bet one: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
If win sit out next 2 spins
If lose
Bet two: 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
If win sit out next spin
If lose sit out next spin
(sit out 3rd spin)  first 2 bets of 3 wide matrix only and if we luck out only the 1st if its a winner

Then
Begin again

No results to show. No tests to post. That for u guys to do if u wish

[edved77]

Hi Edved77

Just to understand when you say "28,558 sets of 3": Do I understand this correctly when you say sets of 3, that you are betting 3 times? and of those 3 bets you win or?

Thanks - James

Hi James - that's correct, a set is 3 spins and you hope that the pattern won't repeat exactly. For example:

group 1 hits
Group 2 hits
group 3 hits

So we bet against this pattern repeating exactly, so we need to bet groups:

2-3 + 0
1-3 + 0
1-2 + 0

Of course, if you win on the first spin, that's a win and you see out the remaining 2 spins (but no need to bet) to get the next pattern.

This is how i generated my stats. I still dont know the best way to put money down for this.

I hope that helps?

edved

[RouletteGhost]

Hi James - that's correct, a set is 3 spins and you hope that the pattern won't repeat exactly. For example:

group 1 hits
Group 2 hits
group 3 hits

So we bet against this pattern repeating exactly, so we need to bet groups:

2-3 + 0
1-3 + 0
1-2 + 0

Of course, if you win on the first spin, that's a win and you see out the remaining 2 spins (but no need to bet) to get the next pattern.

This is how i generated my stats. I still dont know the best way to put money down for this.

I hope that helps?

edved

Thanks edved

Try my recommendation of first 2 bets only

[edved77]

Thanks edved

Try my recommendation of first 2 bets only

Will give it a go RG

[edved77]

Thanks edved

Try my recommendation of first 2 bets only

Will give it a go RG

[Rourke]

Thanks for your explanation Edved :-)

RouletteGhost. I've been playing your recommendation with the 11111111,33333333 progression. But I don't sit out 1 or 2 spins. If I win on the first or second spin, I just start betting against a new 123 combination.

I haven't lost yet - But only been playing 20 spins on a live roulette.

The system looks pretty awesome so far :-)

[RouletteGhost]

Good. Milk those basta*ds

[RouletteGhost]

Before i het slammed for recommending a progression: my advice : stop at 3. 1 then 3 progression. Thats it.

1111111
3333333
Stop

[Rourke]

Edit. Its 8 streets

So my math was wrong

It would be

Bet one: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
If win sit out next 2 spins
If lose
Bet two: 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
If win sit out next spin
If lose sit out next spin
(sit out 3rd spin)  first 2 bets of 3 wide matrix only and if we luck out only the 1st if its a winner

Then
Begin again

No results to show. No tests to post. That for u guys to do if u wish

@RouletteGhost - Why so you sit out 1 or 2 spins after a win? I assume when you say sit out, you mean doing 1 or 2 virtual spins or?

[RouletteGhost]

@RouletteGhost - Why so you sit out 1 or 2 spins after a win? I assume when you say sit out, you mean doing 1 or 2 virtual spins or?

Correct

in mini games of 3

NOT on a rolling basis works better for me

But play what works for u

Look at my chart. If you see a green i made no more bets on that row

[Rourke]

@Edved - I was thinking... Could you run your Excel simulation with 6 streets instead of 8?

Say you have the following two groups:

Group 1 streets: 1-3-5-7-9-11 (1-2-3 / 7-8-9 / 13-14-15 / 19-20-21 / 25-26-27 / 31-32-33)
Group 2 streets 2-4-6-8-10-12 (4-5-6 / 10-11-12 / 16-17-18 / 22-23-24 / 28-29-30 / 34-35-36)

And then you would bet against a pattern of 3 (212, 122, 121).

Regards - Rourke