Outside the box: a different view on roulette numbers

[The General]

Dyksexlic attempted to share similar facts but his riddles were good. I’m still having trouble figuring some out.  But you should understand his word roulette a bit better try going back to that post

Trying to decipher a gypsy's scam? Are you really that gullible?

Read more on the history of the game and basic probability before another scammer comes along and steals your money.

[Blueprint]

Can you tell me why 92-93% is a good stat, Money?

[Person S]

The recipe for quick calculation of the number of game positions:
2ECx3Dz = 6 poses
3Dzx6DS = 18 poses
2ECx12Str = 24 poses
Etc.

[MoneyT101]

Trying to decipher a gypsy's scam? Are you really that gullible?

Read more on the history of the game and basic probability before another scammer comes along and steals your money.

Clearly f*cking clueless!

Not even worth replying to you anymore seriously. 

[Blueprint]

Not even worth replying to you anymore seriously. 

Agreed. 

[Blueprint]

The recipe for quick calculation of the number of game positions:
2ECx3Dz = 6 poses
3Dzx6DS = 18 poses
2ECx12Str = 24 poses
Etc.

Now what?

[Firefox]

Can you tell me why 92-93% is a good stat, Money?

67% of the time, an even chance cycle ends with the same partition that started the cycle. That can't be exploited either. Whichever way you bet the expectation is a zero sum game over the three branches of the cycle.

If it could be exploited, you wouldn't need to worry about DS or dozens or uniques or anything else. You'd just be cashing in on EC Cycles.

[MoneyT101]

67% of the time, an even chance cycle ends with the same partition that started the cycle. That can't be exploited either. Whichever way you bet the expectation is a zero sum game over the three branches of the cycle.

If it could be exploited, you wouldn't need to worry about DS or dozens or uniques or anything else. You'd just be cashing in on EC Cycles.

You can cash in on ec but it’s not worth it as much because the pay is even. It NEEDS progression to boost winning.

Yes it can be exploited

[MoneyT101]

Can you tell me why 92-93% is a good stat, Money?

You know I’m not going to do that.... why not how nor what’s next.

It’s not that I don’t want to help anyone.   I shared enough.  Especially, I thought you guys would understand when i threw the percentage out there.

But everyone hitting me up making things more complicated and asking what’s next.... The solution is so simple if I tell you; you will feel stupid for not thinking of it.

[Firefox]

Now you are simply back to martingales, labs, and D'Alamberts etc on an even chance. The concept of a cycle is not helpful. It goes back to "is there a limit to random." Yes cycles and patterns exist but they are random, and cycles do complete with random choices . But non of those facts  can be exploited.

You can win short term with a negative progression but as soon as you start getting into that stuff, you expose large bets to the house edge, and at some stage the progression will fail.

Round in circles here. I've not seen any demonstration of any edge in this topic. Only statistical facts which can't be exploited.

[Blueprint]

You know I’m not going to do that.... why not how nor what’s next.

And you know the question wasn't for me. 

[Blueprint]

Now you are simply back to martingales, labs, and D'Alamberts etc on an even chance. The concept of a cycle is not helpful. It goes back to "is there a limit to random." Yes cycles and patterns exist but they are random, and cycles do complete with random choices . But non of those facts  can be exploited.

You can win short term with a negative progression but as soon as you start getting into that stuff, you expose large bets to the house edge, and at some stage the progression will fail.

Round in circles here. I've not seen any demonstration of any edge in this topic. Only statistical facts which can't be exploited.

You're wrong.  Same concepts can be used on Baccarat, too. 

[Firefox]

You're wrong.  Same concepts can be used on Baccarat, too.

Yes they can be used on Baccarat with the same result. No gain on the house edge. Except the house edge is less in Baccarat, especially if you bet on Banco. So yes, if you want to enjoy cycles, play Baccarat and you'll have an edge close to minus 1% instead of  minus 1.35%.

[MoneyT101]

Now you are simply back to martingales, labs, and D'Alamberts etc on an even chance. The concept of a cycle is not helpful. It goes back to "is there a limit to random." Yes cycles and patterns exist but they are random, and cycles do complete with random choices . But non of those facts  can be exploited.

You can win short term with a negative progression but as soon as you start getting into that stuff, you expose large bets to the house edge, and at some stage the progression will fail.

Round in circles here. I've not seen any demonstration of any edge in this topic. Only statistical facts which can't be exploited.

Youre not paying attention!

The progression is needed cause the winning is so small since it’s an even chance bet

50/50.... but you’re winning at 60% minus house edge

It’s very small profit window.  The progression helps win more.

But it’s not needed..... depends on your bankroll and goals and how long you actually want to sit and play, I guess.

But if you can boost winning for double street or streets or splits then that’s much better return with no progression

[MoneyT101]

Here this should help someone

How Steve likes to say....

All you’re really doing is increasing the accuracy of you’re  bet!