Some Advice And Where To Find How To Actually Win.

[MrJ]

Here's another sick thing I do but I dont care. I see a lot, when a person bets on only two numbers but with one gap. Meaning, I see the 17/20 bet QUITE OFTEN.

I *LOVE* putting a black on the 32 so that if it hits, I can laugh and laugh (lol)

Yes, I need help.

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

I *LOVE* putting a black on the 32 so that if it hits, I can laugh and laugh (lol)


Ken

well you know what i say, do what ya love!

question: i know you play only a few numbers max, and it is usually based around hot numbers

lets talk like grown men

what is so special about betting hot numbers at the moment vs betting any other number?

[MrJ]

well you know what i say, do what ya love!

question: i know you play only a few numbers max, and it is usually based around hot numbers

lets talk like grown men

what is so special about betting hot numbers at the moment vs betting any other number?

General and I have talked about this before. I think I even did a thread about it in the past called >> Can I bet on bias numbers (tilt in the wheel) and not know it? (something like that, I dont remember).

Meaning, if my numbers are TEMPORARILY bias because of the wheel and I'm betting on them, I really dont care what the *EXACT* reason of..."why they are hitting".

I refuse to bet on COLD numbers (as I did years back). Yes, the 21 that has not hit in the last 250 spins, may now hit 4/25 spins, I get it but count me out. NO COLD NUMBERS.

Ken

[Scarface]

General and I have talked about this before. I think I even did a thread about it in the past called >> Can I bet on bias numbers (tilt in the wheel) and not know it? (something like that, I dont remember).

Meaning, if my numbers are TEMPORARILY bias because of the wheel and I'm betting on them, I really dont care what the *EXACT* reason of..."why they are hitting".

I refuse to bet on COLD numbers (as I did years back). Yes, the 21 that has not hit in the last 250 spins, may now hit 4/25 spins, I get it but count me out. NO COLD NUMBERS.

Ken

But wouldn't that mean the 21 was now hot?  Guess it all depends on reference of what hot and cold is.  Hot could mean over the last 20, 100, 1000, or 10000 spins.  I prefer to play what's hot from the time I sat at the table....past does not matter to me

[MrJ]

I really dont get into the cold thing (anymore), with one exception.

Up to 3 numbers max...if I see a few numbers being bet without one hit, for HOURS!!..When the person gives up, I may bet those for 10 spins but thats it.

A guy was betting only the 1 13 36...for hours. He ran out of money and I put a green on each of the 3. I got my wish, the guy STAYED and watched (lol). First spin, 36 hits!

Hahahahaha

Ken

[Scarface]

I really dont get into the cold thing (anymore), with one exception.

Up to 3 numbers max...if I see a few numbers being bet without one hit, for HOURS!!..When the person gives up, I may bet those for 10 spins but thats it.

A guy was betting only the 1 13 36...for hours. He ran out of money and I put a green on each of the 3. I got my wish, the guy STAYED and watched (lol). First spin, 36 hits!

Hahahahaha

Ken

Nice!  Gotta love it when that happens.  I've also learned my lesson not to bet cold numbers because I think they're due.  If I do, I wait until it hits the first time.  Last trip to the casin the marquee was showing 0/00 hadn't hit in over 200 spins.  About 30 minutes later the 0 hit.  I then bet both 0s and got 3 hits out of the next 4 spins. 

[MrJ]

To dabble in another persons misery.

Not surprised.

Funny though

It would not of been as fun had the guy left. 

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

  If you want to take it to the next level, then read what the casino risk consultants are discussing.

Which can be found where?

Should i ask upper management to let me have a word? IS there a public open door policy where they volunteer their profit risks to the public?

[RouletteGhost]

What does it take to be a professional AP player

Time traveling?
Searching for biased wheels?
Time spent at these wheels?
Risk vs Reward?

At the end of the day if a bias is believed to be found and wins come in can it just be variance in your favor at that particular time?

Are hot numbers a gamblers fallacy since any number can hit?

How wealthy can one become?

Do age of the wheels matter? Casinos change out wheels all the time. Can new wheels be biased?

[The General]

How wealthy can one become?

Have you ever heard of Billy Walters? 

Do age of the wheels matter? Casinos change out wheels all the time. Can new wheels be biased?

Yes and no.  Some wheels are biased because of wear or repeated exposure to fluctuations in temperature and humidity.  Others are born biased due to poor assembly.
Casinos don't change wheels all the time.  Some rotate them around the casino once every few months.  Others may not move them at all.  Moved wheels are more advantageous to the player.

[Steve]

It takes the right technique for the right conditions and wheel. An eye for detail, persistence and time.

Actually a lot less time than a 9-5 job if you know what you're doing.

[RouletteGhost]

Resorts has new airball machines. Some change speed

Some look they have a the same speed and slowdown every spin

Not too confident in AP on airbaml

I question the fairness of them to

[The General]

Just saw them all last week.

[RouletteGhost]

Just saw them all last week.

I was there last week as well. Im 30 minutes east in the non mutant territory in the burbs

[Scarface]

I agree with all the AP stuff in theory, but don't see it as practical.   Let's say one did find a wheel that seemed bias after tracking thousands of spins.  There would still be alot of unknown variables, that there is no way to guarantee it's bias.  Different dealers spin the ball differently (spin, speed, etc).  Casino could change out or adjust the wheel.  A different ball could be used (different size, weight).   What was perceived as bias, due to a wheel defect, could actually be bias for one of many different unknown reasons.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying wheel tracking is not effective.  But systems can also be effective too. 

I think short term bias can be just as effective and profitable as long term.  Sure, we might not know if it's actually variance or bias in the short term, but it doesn't really matter.  Even long term tracking doesnt guarantee the bias is due to a defect in the wheel.