Some Advice And Where To Find How To Actually Win.

[RouletteGhost]

Steve essentially you are saying the maths can't help

it is fact

so why can we not attempt to use it

[Steve]

Sure it's a "fact", and you can "use" it, but not to change the odds.

Again it's like saying there will be roughly half red and half black spins (green 0 excluded). It's a statistical fact. But try getting an advantage from the fact.

To beat roulette, you need to think about cause and effect. WHY the ball lands where it does.

AP does use statistics, but not in the way the "law of a third" does. AP looks at statistics like "how far the ball is bouncing". The "law of a third" looks at "which numbers repeat, for whatever unknown reason".

Normally with AP, you must understand the cause, so you make the right decisions about whether or not your data is reliable. But it's not always the case. For example, with bias, you could just determine which numbers won most over a few thousand spins. You don't need to know the "cause" and can still often be right. But the "law of a third" has no foundation. No science. It's just basic probability. You can't do anything with it.

I don't understand why people still bother with this and similar approaches. You know most sets of 37 spins, you arent going to have every single number spin once. It can happen, but probably wont in your lifetime. But try predicting which numbers will or wont be repeats, with an accuracy better than random. You cant.

Anyone wasting time with the law of a third needs to understand why it doesn't work. I'm not saying focus on AP. I'm saying try something NEW.

RG I know you play recreational and dont care. That's fine. I'm talking to people who actually do care about winning long term, and are looking to become more financially secure. To these people, first I'd say roulette is not the easiest way to become financially secure UNLESS you have suitable wheels and conditions. And even then, most people dont have the mindset and patience for it.

Everyone is different, but some things are the same. What's always the same is what works and what doesnt, and why. Not understanding something does not change reality.

[iggiv]

this is not true about red and two thirds. It is not the same. To get half of red you need to take on average more than just last 37 or 38 spins. When you look at last 37-38 spins you won't see all the time half red and half black.

but it is gonna be pretty close to 2/3 and 1/3.

but i am not gonna go into argument.  If it doesn't help then be it. Everyone decides for himself.

Actually the wheel is the most logical thing to look at if a player wants to put the odds in their favour. Statistics from random accuracy tells you not much more than how much you can expect to lose.

Thats like saying roughly half the spins will be red. It doesnt help because the knowledge doesnt in any way increase accuracy of predictions. The odds dont change, and payouts dont change, so nothing has changed.

[Steve]

If it doesn't help then be it. Everyone decides for himself.

Yes anyone can decide. But clear mathematical fact is not a decision or opinion. Really if you ask any statistician, they'd basically laugh at the "law of a third" being used to develop a system. The information and knowledge is COMMON. It is very well documented. People are just not understanding it. Really I was there once too. I couldn't get my head around it and thought there must be a way. And when I finally understood it, I realized how much time I wasted. Really I felt like an idiot - the kind the casinos love.

[Steve]

Really if a new player would spend ONE DAY just carefully learning and understanding the facts and reasons, they could save YEARS of stuffing around and losing. But if you said this to me when I was a new player, I would have probably told you where to go too.

Its like having a book with all the answers, but you refuse to pick it up and read. Instead you refuse to read and and insist on doing things your way. As a consequence, you waste years on bullshit. Again i was there once too.

[iggiv]

Yes statistical and math gurus will laugh, no problem with this. There are some things they still don't know.
When  you study it closely u see something weird. But i am not gonna go into it.

Anyone can try. Or may not. Up to everyone.

[Steve]

I know they don't know everything. Nobody does. I have personally not seen anything about the law of a third that cannot be explained by a simple equation.

Here's a big hint though. Everything in the universe is subject to numbers like the golden ratio (1.618). A simple introduction in roulette is link:://:.roulettephysics.com/fibonacci-roulette-system/

If there ever way a "holy grail", I have little doubt the answer will be reflected in nature. Not in incorrect perception. The golden ratio is everywhere.

[MrJ]

Really if a new player would spend ONE DAY just carefully learning and understanding the facts and reasons, they could save YEARS of stuffing around and losing.

....and thats the very same 6-8 years that I say but it gets looked at funny. 6-8 years is an estimate but I'm damn close.

Ken

[Scarface]

I know they don't know everything. Nobody does. I have personally not seen anything about the law of a third that cannot be explained by a simple equation.

Here's a big hint though. Everything in the universe is subject to numbers like the golden ratio (1.618). A simple introduction in roulette is link:://:.roulettephysics.com/fibonacci-roulette-system/

If there ever way a "holy grail", I have little doubt the answer will be reflected in nature. Not in incorrect perception. The golden ratio is everywhere.

I just watched an episode on Netflix called Touch.  It's about an autistic kid who sees the world mathematically.  Talks about golden ratio, fibinocchi, etc.  I had to google golden ratio because I forgot what that was.  Anyway, thought it was interesting you mentioned this right after I was looking it up. 

[Herby]

There exists a famous number related to the law of the third.
But nobody except roulettists calls it "law of the third" .

I will let this as a riddle for some days, one reason I have to go t work now. 

Everybody who knows, please answer ...

[psimoes]

Phi.

[Herby]

Phi.

Phi is the Golden Ratio

[psimoes]

Wrong answer? Phi is 1.618...
37/1.6=22.8
While LOTT tells you to bet 24 mumbers, Phi says 23 is best. If both win, then Phi has an edge over LOTT since it wastes one less unit LOL.
I´ll name a few more greek numbers then, to reduce variance. Delta, Sigma and Pi.

[Herby]

I don't know whats LOTT   


One can try to do the exact calculation with exakt probabilities for the "law of the third".

37 numbers, 100, and so on.
Extrapolation to infinity.
This results converge to a very well known number.

[psimoes]

LOTT is just acronym for Law Of The Third.
Well I reached the stop loss. What is the right answer?