Flat Earth theory questions

[falkor2k15]

space travel cannot be done conventionally

galaxies are too far apart

universe is too big

to get to another star in OUR OWN GALAXY can take 40 years at the speed of light

that is just amazing

another galaxy? hundreds of years of travel at speed of light maybe more

loop holes, worm holes, must be used

Stop pretending you're a space traveler! Empty your mind and start thinking for yourself...

[Turner]

My favorite science fact is about the photon.
Basically....the speed of light isnt just that. Its a universal speed limit and anything with zero mass will travel at that speed.
So the speed of light is really the speed of a particle with no mass.

Take one photon being made inside the sun.

It sets off ...bumping...deflecting...heading for the outer edge to freedom,  eventually hitting your eye. All done at the speed of light, it takes.40,000 years
Mind blowing. Thats how big the sun is and how random its path is.
Heres the rub though
40,000 years is from your perspective. The photon hits the back of your eye intantaneously according to the photon because its travelling at the speed of light.

[Steve]

We only know what we think we know.

[falkor2k15]

Last time I'll post it... ya'll, please watch all 42 minutes without interruptions...

[3Nine]

Falkor, maybe one day you'll actually find the edge.

[TurboGenius]

Ignorance is bliss.

I do NOT care what science fiction fans or even scientists say what technology we might have in the future -- I care about what space travel technology we have today in discussing this topic.
One of the fastest space crafts that we  currently  have is the New Horizons probe that reached Pluto a couple of years ago. It travelled at around 52000 miles per hour (or 84000 kilometers per hour).

Even travelling at that enormous speed (that our current technology has actually attained), New Horizons would take nearly 55,000 years to reach Proxima Centauri.

Currently ? That was launched 11 years ago - it's slow compared to what we can do now.
How is 11 year old technology "current" ?
Nevermind, I don't want an answer lol.
That's as stupid as saying "In 1904 it took a horse 3 weeks to get to Florida from NJ and with that technology (which is current) we could never get to California in less than 2 months. Whatever.

[TurboGenius]

Turbo we didn't create math any more than we created the universe

No - We created math.
Do you think some other alien species out there would show up one day and we'll say "Here's our math" and they'll say "Holy shit - that's the same math we use !".
Of course not. We created it. We made the rules, now as we see how things actually are and they don't fit our rules - we make new rules. In the end math is only what we created to explain things. No one else did.

[RouletteGhost]

Math is a universal language.

It is because it is

There's no other explanation

When we sent voyager out we used math to communicate with potential beings

[TurboGenius]

When we sent voyager out we used math to communicate with potential beings

Then I guarantee to you that there will never be a reply. lol.
Why do humans think they are the top of the evolutionary chain ? We created math - therefore everyone and everything in the universe must follow our rules ? So funny. It's beyond arrogant and really holds us back as a species from getting to the next level. I doubt that we ever will from what I see.
It's as absurd as someone pointing to the bible in order to show proof of God.
Well, it's in the book - there's proof !   ? Who thinks this way ?
It's so convenient to have a problem and then just invent the answer - then that answer is used to answer other problems. No intelligent species would do this.
That's why people can't understand infinity - in our little brains everything has to have a start and a end.
We made a symbol to represent it - now we use it in equations, and when infinity wasn't big enough we invented "infinity + 1"   LOL. What a shame.

[RouletteGhost]

Math is universal tg

[DoctorSudoku]

No - We created math.
Do you think some other alien species out there would show up one day and we'll say "Here's our math" and they'll say "Holy shit - that's the same math we use !".
Of course not. We created it. We made the rules, now as we see how things actually are and they don't fit our rules - we make new rules. In the end math is only what we created to explain things. No one else did.

Given that all of our scientific and technological advancements of the last century are based on mathematics, there must be something valid in the way "our" mathematics relates to the physical reality that we live in.

It is kind of stupid to say that "We created math ...... We created it. We made the rules, now as we see how things actually are and they don't fit our rules - we make new rules. In the end math is only what we created to explain things. No one else did."

As long as mathematics continues to help produce scientific and technological advances and breakthroughs (with modifications to existing rules and/or the generation of new rules), then that mathematics has some valid connections to the universe and how it operates regardless of whether we created that mathematics or some other extraterrestrial civilization created it.

[Steve]

Everything can be explained with maths. The problem with using it to beat roulette is its usually used incorrectl.

The maths is simple: payout is less than expectation.

[Priyanka]

Quite an interesting discussion here.

Everything can be explained with maths.

Not everything can be explained with maths. There are lots and lots of problems still unresolved and yes one day it might get resolved as people try harder and harder. What is the probability that sun will rise tomm is a simple example. There are more complex unresolved problems out there. Everything evolves and with evolution our knowledge changes. Pluto was a planet and then it ceases to be a planet. Our understanding, belief and knowledge evolves. 

With roulette too the basic premise behind all the house edge catching up is spins are independent. Until someone comes and shakes this problem.

The maths is simple: payout is less than expectation.

Good old discussion. Well! payout is less than expectation. Who can argue with that right?

[Priyanka]

maybe one day you'll actually find the edge

Yeah. He might as he thinks earth is flat. For all others it is more or less spherical hence no edge.

[Steve]

Everything can be modelled with math... if the application is correct. Everything is cause and effect. There is never effect for no reason.