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best way to attack this system (how to master this) ?

Started by kingmaq, May 10, 05:16 PM 2017

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kingmaq

Hello Roulette geeks,

i am seeking your advices on how to ideally progress a system which i invented and seems to work quite well...
below are the result of 100 spins from live-dealer roulette:

The system consists of betting on 22 numbers (straight up) with a starting stake of 1$ (total 22$ per round)

W
W
W
L
W
W
L
W
W
W
W
L
W
W
W
L
W
W
W
L
W
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W
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L
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W
W
W
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W
W
W
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W
W
W
L
W
W
W
W
W
L
W
W
L
W
L
W
W
L
W
W
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W
W
W


as you can see the system is stable and wins quite well, however i am looking for the best way to progress through (a good progression).
one final note, the worst scenario that can ever happen is 7 consecutive loses (i have never seen more than 7!!)

i am working with the system since one month.

Please advice!

Thank you very much!

sugtips

Hi,
Thanks God,
Good morning all,

I think best one is this:

On win increase one unit, on lose decrease one unit till you reach your session target.

Thanks
If you think you can, You can. If you think you can't, you are right.

MoneyT101

So on a win 36-22= 14 made and on a loss -22
You can definitely make something out of it but you need to know more stats

How many spins of 100 set have you tested?
Whats the average wins/loss?
Also compare spins of 1000 and of 10,000 to see how it holds up in the long term

Whats the worst win loss gap you faced back to back? 
Example(Lost 7 then won 1 or 2 and loss another 7 won 1 or 2 and loss 7) This will help with recovery on progression choice to know your limit

Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

praline

Quote from: kingmaq on May 10, 05:16 PM 2017one final note, the worst scenario that can ever happen is 7 consecutive loses (i have never seen more than 7!!)

If you write down last 15 uniques,  you will have 22 numbers that didn't appeared for 15 times.
I will suggest you, if I can, to read John Solitude's Roulette Wheel Frequency Analysis. It won't make you rich, but it surely help to understand what's going on.
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

kingmaq

Hi,

Thx for your reply... here is the result of another 100 spins

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W
L
W
L
W
W
W
W
L
W
W
L
W
L
W
W
W
W
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W
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W
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L

what about waiting for a trigger ? say we wait for three loses in a row and start ?

as i said before i am working with this since 1 month (last week i made good winning), however the only problem i am facing is these sudden /sparse falls.

last but not least, you will never see more than 7 loses in one row, the selection of the numbers is based on some sort of  data-distribution... (no random selection)

regards

Thx

MoneyT101

Quote from: praline on May 11, 02:30 AM 201715 uniques

Your right but we do not know how he is picking his numbers....If its random then definitely look into this because at some point the system will hit a down curve.  If its based on something better then get more spins and see whats possible and whats not
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

nottophammer

Quote from: MoneyT101 on May 11, 02:30 AM 2017
So on a win 36-22= 14 made and on a loss -22
You can definitely make something out of it but you need to know more stats

How many spins of 100 set have you tested?
Whats the average wins/loss?
Also compare spins of 1000 and of 10,000 to see how it holds up in the long term

Whats the worst win loss gap you faced back to back? 
Example(Lost 7 then won 1 or 2 and loss another 7 won 1 or 2 and loss 7) This will help with recovery on progression choice to know your limit
read the opener and just started to look at the replies and this is a great reply.

What i'd like to know are the 22#'s random, are you dropping the last # making following whats trending.
Seen betting the remaining 22 of the starting 37, miss for 14 spins on RNG and your quote of 7, on airball is max 7
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

Quote from: kingmaq on May 11, 02:33 AM 2017last but not least, you will never see more than 7 loses in one row, the selection of the numbers is based on some sort of  data-distribution... (no random selection)
there,a little part of the puzzle, and a bold statement never more than 7

How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

MoneyT101

Quote from: kingmaq on May 11, 02:33 AM 2017
last but not least, you will never see more than 7 loses in one row, the selection of the numbers is based on some sort of  data-distribution... (no random selection)

Im not sure how you tracking but you might see more then 7.... I believe your results tho. Nice catch using the data

Just answer the questions in my first post for yourself.  So you can see the limits and then make the betting scheme and/or progression

7 losses are easy to recover from based on your W/L
but 7 losses 1 win and 7 losses with progression is a a killer


Ive had 6-7 and 1 win and then another 5  with 1 win and 6-7 again .....in my case it doesnt matter because my MM can handle it and still profit while the losses are happening  :thumbsup:
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

kingmaq

Hi guys,

First of all, no random selection is used here, and no RNG. I follow a determined number's selection.

I can affirm that I haven't seen yet more than 7 loses in one row.

I have mainly two problems, The casino where I play offers stakes of 1 , 5, 25, 100, 500 $ ( I find it very hard to place stakes 3, 6, 9, 11, 12 $ etc since I have to place 22 bets within 20 seconds !).

Second prob/ challenge is the progression, i avoid flat bet because it can last long time, I believe with such system you must play for a few sessions and leave( so a progression is needed ).

Regards

kingmaq

Quote from: MoneyT101 on May 11, 09:24 AM 2017
Im not sure how you tracking but you might see more then 7.... I believe your results tho. Nice catch using the data

Just answer the questions in my first post for yourself.  So you can see the limits and then make the betting scheme and/or progression

7 losses are easy to recover from based on your W/L
but 7 losses 1 win and 7 losses with progression is a a killer


Ive had 6-7 and 1 win and then another 5  with 1 win and 6-7 again .....in my case it doesnt matter because my MM can handle it and still profit while the losses are happening  :thumbsup:




Hi,

How can you recover from 7 loses in one row? Can you plz clarify ?

Mathematically I will hit the table limit (the casino has a max limit of 125$ on straight number )

Thx

Kattila

Quote from: kingmaq on May 11, 02:33 AM 2017
Hi,

Thx for your reply... here is the result of another 100 spins

W trigger
W reall
L1
W real
L1
W real
W re.....
W re....
W re
L1
W re
W re
L1
W re
L1
W re
W re
W re
W re
W re
L 1
W re
W re
L 1
W re
W re
W re
W re
W re
W re
W re
L1
L2 STOP
L
W trigger
L1
W re
L1
W re
W re
L 1
L 2.  Stop
L
L
W trig
L1
W re
L1
W re
W re
W re
W re
L 1
W re
W re
W re
L 1
L2. Stop
L
W trig
L1
W re
L1
W re
L 1 stop( 3  L1)
W  wait ww. or LL !
L
W
L
W
L
W
W ww trigger
W re
W re
L1
W re
W re
L1
L2 stop
W trig
W re
L1
W re.  So on....
W
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L
W
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W
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W
L
W
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W
W
L
L
W
L
L
L
W
L
W
W
L
W
L
L
W
W
W
L
L
L
W
W
W
L
L

what about waiting for a trigger ? say we wait for three loses in a row and start ?

as i said before i am working with this since 1 month (last week i made good winning), however the only problem i am facing is these sudden /sparse falls.

last but not least, you will never see more than 7 loses in one row, the selection of the numbers is based on some sort of  data-distribution... (no random selection)

regards

Thx


Look at the LW above, use positive progression, rise one unit after W  , after L1 down one unit, after L2 Stop and wait virtual W. After wl1wl1wl1 stop also not good for the progression the lwlwlw...., then wait for
ww or LL  and bet again

RouletteGhost

All you are actually doing is reverse engineering this set

Which is fine for testing purposes

Then take that progression from reverse engineering and see if it works on other sets

I mean we reverse engineered the Roswell UFO according to astronaut Edgar Mitchell and look what that got us, fiber optics.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

By the way I'm not joking

Google apollo astronaut Edgar Mitchell and Roswell.

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

DoctorSudoku

Kingmaq,
I agree with Kattila -- given your 7 losses in a row problem and your table limits, a +1 on a win  / -1 on a loss quasi-positive progression would be more appropriate for your bet selection method. Martingale-type progressions are a killer here.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

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