question for Turbo

[maestro]

if you see or read this can you please explain to forum members why would you not play at Steves MPR game...thank you

[Lucky7Red]

Because he can't suck money from mpr.

[maestro]

question has been intended for Turbo...thx

[ZERO]

question has been intended for Turbo...thx

[maestro]

i will take wild guess then...is it because of Steves shitty random MPR

[TurboGenius]

I won't play there because my play is logged and obviously available to
people other than myself.
I had explained this before, a long time ago when I was playing there -
and uncovered cheating, then worked to see how this person was cheating.
(this person is/was a so-called prophet around here for a while lol)
Once I figured out a few ways that this person was cheating, and working with
Steve with this info - he implemented (I believe at this point somewhere) to be
able to track player's bets in order to determine how this person was cheating.
I believe all this was resolved - yet to my knowledge (not that I read every post) - that person was never publicly exposed for cheating, they continued on to post
and mislead members, but that's not my department. Maybe it was mentioned
and I missed it.
So I won't play there knowing whatever I do is logged, unless it's "just for fun" - and YES as Steve says -
Parx logs play, Roulette Simulator logs play and even plays back each session
so others can watch - however my account is set to private so this info isn't available to others. Parx gives little to no information on a player's bets other than what profit they are at compared to other players in the leaderboard rankings.
I'm not concerned that a legit operational casino with a website is going to be too concerned with revealing how I play there to others.
So for fun - sure I would log in and play there, I just simply won't play "my" way.

[maestro]

I won't play there because my play is logged and obviously available to
people other than myself.
I had explained this before, a long time ago when I was playing there -
and uncovered cheating, then worked to see how this person was cheating.
(this person is/was a so-called prophet around here for a while lol)
Once I figured out a few ways that this person was cheating, and working with
Steve with this info - he implemented (I believe at this point somewhere) to be
able to track player's bets in order to determine how this person was cheating.
I believe all this was resolved - yet to my knowledge (not that I read every post) - that person was never publicly exposed for cheating, they continued on to post
and mislead members, but that's not my department. Maybe it was mentioned
and I missed it.
So I won't play there knowing whatever I do is logged, unless it's "just for fun" - and YES as Steve says -
Parx logs play, Roulette Simulator logs play and even plays back each session
so others can watch - however my account is set to private so this info isn't available to others. Parx gives little to no information on a player's bets other than what profit they are at compared to other players in the leaderboard rankings.
I'm not concerned that a legit operational casino with a website is going to be too concerned with revealing how I play there to others.
So for fun - sure I would log in and play there, I just simply won't play "my" way.

thx Turbo for your time...and yeah you know Steve shitty MPR no undrstanding math but very good at hand made spin files...
thx again and take care..

[Steve]

Turbo, your answer doesnt even make sense.

I won't play there because my play is logged and obviously available to
people other than myself.

that person was never publicly exposed for cheating, they continued on to post
and mislead members, but that's not my department. Maybe it was mentioned
and I missed it.

It was explained to everyone because people were being misled. It wasnt right to withhold that information.

Whats more is you told me you wanted two accounts.. one for testing, and one for serious play. What happened?? Both rank bad, but now MPR is not good enough for you? You prefer rigged parx and rs with lots of winners. I dont like confrontations but its more important to call bullshit when I see it.

Parx logs play, Roulette Simulator logs play and even plays back each session so others can watch - however my account is set to private so this info isn't available to others.

Nobody but the admin sees bet data, in any case. with mpr, everyones bets are set to “private”. There is no public setting.

Roulettesimulator records a video for the admin.... and thats more private for you than MPR log file showing bets and payouts?? Come on. I dont buy your logic.

[Steve]

i will take wild guess then...is it because of Steves shitty random MPR

In case you missed it, mpr uses real wheel spins. If you find they are different to random.org rng, that means they are predictable and you can have a “better than random” win rate. But instead of blitzing the leaderboard, you have the expected win rate (loss).

Dont blame me or mpr. If the data you suggest is accurate, you wouldnt have a net loss, would you? You would have a clear positive win rate. Unless you deliberately lost over the 304,000 spins you played to teach us a lesson, or something. Thats a lot of spins to waste deliberately losing, isnt it? Or maybe the results of an inaccurate simulation didnt look good for you, so you blame MPR and me. Its easier.

MPR is a good way for everyone to see whos full of shit.

[maestro]

In case you missed it, mpr uses real wheel spins. If you find they are different to random.org rng, that means they are predictable and you can have a “better than random” win rate. But instead of blitzing the leaderboard, you have the expected win rate (loss).

Dont blame me or mpr. If the data you suggest is accurate, you wouldnt have a net loss, would you? You would have a clear positive win rate. Unless you deliberately lost over the 304,000 spins you played to teach us a lesson, or something. Thats a lot of spins to waste deliberately losing, isnt it? Or maybe the results of an inaccurate simulation didnt look good for you, so you blame MPR and me. Its easier.

MPR is a good way for everyone to see whos full of shit.

i blame no one...hope you are not that stupid to understand

<and me to teach someone> nope

no matter what you say spins are not live spins and that is my opinion

[Steve]

So your mpr results are bad because spins are rng, and a known rng game you do better at is a better simulator.

Seriously?

Maybe your results are bad because your system doesnt work, and you want an excuse.

Its ok, almost every system fails. No need to blame mpr. Do you accuse real casinos for your losses? Not even my system is beating mpr.

[maestro]

Do you accuse real casinos for your losses? Not even my system is beating mpr.

no i do not....because of average for year

[TurboGenius]

You prefer rigged parx and rs with lots of winners. I dont like confrontations but its more important to call bullshit when I see it.

Interesting, "lots of winners" which isn't even close to the truth.
There is a leaderboard at Parx, the top 100 players for the week who are actually in profit - you don't see the tons of people who aren't in profit and therefore not on the list at all.
So when they total up the weeks play from everyone, I'm sure it comes out to the house edge like it should.
At the simulator site - there's also not many winners at all.
618 players ranked in total - how many are negative ? Take a look, it's the house edge when you total it up. So "lots of winners" is a completely wrong comment to make if you're going to try to show that these simulation games aren't accurate.

[maestro]

MPR is a good way for everyone to see whos full of shit.

exactly...soon will be 120 blacks in only 60 spins...no problem

[Steve]

Turbo, you didnt address your contradicitons:

I won't play there (MPR) because my play is logged

Parx logs play, Roulette Simulator logs play and even plays back each session so others can watch - however my account is set to private so this info isn't available to others

Like I said, nobody but the admin sees bet data, in any case. with MPR, everyone's bets are set to “private”. There is no public setting. Roulettesimulator records a video for the admin.... and that's more private for you than MPR log file showing bets and payouts?

Could you please explain the contradictions?