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Stubborn Better

Started by Bigbroben, Mar 25, 09:15 PM 2018

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Bigbroben

Is this a winning system?
I am not telling what it is, I just want people to look at results.

Higher highs and higher lows along the simulator.
300k+ spins, 70k units

Unfortunately no way to see the graph after that many spins.

How many spins does it take to prove a system works?


Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 25, 09:15 PM 2018
Is this a winning system?


No way to answer that without knowing what it is

-We cannot tell you if it is playable in a casino.
- we don’t know how realistic it is

For all we know this graph could be a martingale

So no one can say whether it’s a winner or not without knowing what it is.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Bigbroben

It is actually quite simple.
Not a martingale.
Easy.
Playable if table allows 74u bets on a number.

Just a first impression, please, from looking at the totals.

I'll let run until tomorrow morning, hoping to be at 600k spins.
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

jekhb76

The question is, What did you do (bet)?
How did you bet?

Bigbroben

Somehow it stopped at 474k spins.

So: end of simulation at +/-500k spins
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

ayk

Well, that's a middle finger to the house edge if you're flatbetting.  :thumbsup:

Bigbroben

Here.

Simple.

Choose a nr.  Put 1u on it, +1 every spin until a hit.  Restart after win or if 74 spins failed.  This is why I call it ''Stubborn''.

Also, attached, a graph showing profit if hit at xx spin.  A normal distribution where a nr hits every 37 spins brings maximal reward, +630u.
  Of course, this does not happen.  A nr will not hit within 74 spins ( 2 cycles) around 5 times every 37.  It seems though winnings are higher than losses, long term.

br: 2775 (1+2+3+4+5+6,+...,+74)

A software would run millions of spins quicker than R-sim.  Anyone?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Bigbroben

Quote from: ayk on Mar 26, 07:57 AM 2018
Well, that's a middle finger to the house edge if you're flatbetting.  :thumbsup:

I wish it was flatbetting...
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

ZERO

Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 26, 08:09 AM 2018
I wish it was flatbetting...

At least the bottom chip in the stack of 74 is lying FLAT on the table...  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

jekhb76

Great approach. Sadly this won't ever work in a real casino, or you need to bring your bed with you.

Bigbroben

Probably true. 
I wanted to see if the idea is sustainable.
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

ZERO

Quote from: jekhb76 on Mar 26, 08:42 AM 2018
Great approach. Sadly this won't ever work in a real casino, or you need to bring your bed with you.

Hey BIG, to speed things up you might as well play all the numbers together and remove the ones that hit. In effect you are playing all the numbers together but each number individually. Works quite well but there are always a sleeper or 2 that ruins your balance...

jekhb76

Quote from: ZERO on Mar 26, 09:06 AM 2018
Hey BIG, to speed things up you might as well play all the numbers together and remove the ones that hit. In effect you are playing all the numbers together but each number individually. Works quite well but there are always a sleeper or 2 that ruins your balance...
It would work, but it will need a very Large bankroll and huge bets Will be played at some Point, but it can work.
I tested it earier and doubled my bankroll in rs with 3000 units.
But i didn't quit when i was i'm profit i Just kept goin' until i doubled my bank.
#1 come, place 1 unit on it. Spin 2, #7 Comes now we place 2 units on 1 and 1 on 7. Continue this way until you get a hit. We then remove that number but we will Keep the betts on All others and continue until in profit, then restart.
Or do this same thing, but now only with repeaters, less attack on your bankroll.

Bigbroben

I'd say: restart at 1u when a nr hits, instead of removing it.
Sort of creating waves rolling.

I am not saying it'll work, probably not, but maybe worth a try.
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

jekhb76

Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 26, 01:20 PM 2018
I'd say: restart at 1u when a nr hits, instead of removing it.
Sort of creating waves rolling.

I am not saying it'll work, probably not, but maybe worth a try.
Ok that's what we will work on from now on. Bet every number on it's own. #1 1 unit #2 1 unit and 2 on #1 etc. We do this until a hit, when we have a hit we start that number on 1 unit again but remain the rest bets on other numbers until in profit and then restart.

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