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37 back to basics

Started by 6th-sense, Jun 09, 02:29 PM 2018

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Bigbroben

Quote from: 6th-sense on Nov 08, 02:57 AM 2018
awesome...now do one for wheel...and a combo of both..

Sure,
I could do European and American Wheel.
Any other stats that would be worth inserting somewhere around the sheet?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

6th-sense

Quote from: Bigbroben on Nov 08, 09:56 AM 2018
Sure,
I could do European and American Wheel.
Any other stats that would be worth inserting somewhere around the sheet?

Interesting stats ?

Off the top of my head yes

I’ll give you this one

My tracker attached to ayks original has HH LL HL LH

Made from the Wheel Table pic

On cross correlation  it’s self explanatory if you look at that wheel table layout

They relate to number groups

HH = high black numbers
LL= low black numbers
HL=high red numbers
LH=low red numbers

Start from 1st hit of 1st number in group ..note that spin it hit on  and note every spin number in that group as it comes out
And so on .until that group finishes on a repeat.
End tracking and final distance from start to finish of closure of that group cycle one repeat only

This is just a basic explanation of what does happen in a cycle spin frame

What happens if a group doesn’t repeat once in the spin cycle and how often does that happen?

And how far beyond the end of a 37 spin cycle does that take to close?
Check your stats

Just interesting stuff to look at





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6th-sense

Oh and put the numbers out next to spin number out so you can see which number it repeats on 😃

Person S

Thank you 6- sense, a very interesting message, I had a question - we start betting starting with the numbers we need to use, and what if there is only 1 number, are we waiting for a few more dropouts or are we connecting them in the process?
Zero ignore, it is not not in one of the groups?
Is any progression used ...

6th-sense

Quote from: Person S on Nov 08, 05:21 PM 2018
Thank you 6- sense, a very interesting message, I had a question - we start betting starting with the numbers we need to use, and what if there is only 1 number, are we waiting for a few more dropouts or are we connecting them in the process?
Zero ignore, it is not not in one of the groups?
Is any progression used ...

I didn’t say it was a bet..bigroben asked for anything else for stats so just wanted to show this as an example of interest..and is what a basic cycle in a spin frame looks like ..

You will never get 37 unique spins out it’s impossible

So this is one example of what’s happening

Just thought it might stir a bit of interest towards everyone to think what’s going on ..sort of step back and think of the basics in front of you



Blood Angel

Quote from: 6th-sense on Nov 08, 05:49 PM 2018
I didn’t say it was a bet..bigroben asked for anything else for stats so just wanted to show this as an example of interest..and is what a basic cycle in a spin frame looks like ..

You will never get 37 unique spins out it’s impossible

So this is one example of what’s happening

Just thought it might stir a bit of interest towards everyone to think what’s going on ..sort of step back and think of the basics in front of you

I wonder what the highest amount of uniques is? I have seen 26 in a row (true story) but what can be the highest in 37 spins if 37 is impossible..

Herby

Quote from: Blood Angel on Nov 09, 05:33 AM 2018I wonder what the highest amount of uniques is? I have seen 26 in a row (true story) but what can be the highest in 37 spins if 37 is impossible..

Its not really impossible but the probability for this event is very very small.
simulation 10.000.000 trials: 
{{1, 270381}, {2, 525423}, {3, 747825}, {4, 915471}, {5, 1019835}, {6,
   1056756}, {7, 1033931}, {8, 958090}, {9, 843986}, {10,
  710517}, {11, 569474}, {12, 437276}, {13, 319697}, {14,
  223657}, {15, 148815}, {16, 94892}, {17, 56760}, {18, 32723}, {19,
  17664}, {20, 9092}, {21, 4382}, {22, 1980}, {23, 840}, {24,
  355}, {25, 122}, {26, 40}, {27, 12}, {28, 4}}

this means 4 times I got longest uniques length 28

ignatus

Quote from: Herby on Nov 09, 06:00 AM 2018
Its not really impossible but the probability for this event is very very small.
simulation 10.000.000 trials: 
{{1, 270381}, {2, 525423}, {3, 747825}, {4, 915471}, {5, 1019835}, {6,
   1056756}, {7, 1033931}, {8, 958090}, {9, 843986}, {10,
  710517}, {11, 569474}, {12, 437276}, {13, 319697}, {14,
  223657}, {15, 148815}, {16, 94892}, {17, 56760}, {18, 32723}, {19,
  17664}, {20, 9092}, {21, 4382}, {22, 1980}, {23, 840}, {24,
  355}, {25, 122}, {26, 40}, {27, 12}, {28, 4}}

this means 4 times I got longest uniques length 28

Well? Not really? I played the nottogame, now (simulated) --Play the last 10, this this time , non -stop, (with a *27 step*-progression) This was supposted to be the "Grail-progression"(?) But as you see in this chart,it's not a "grail"?  it busted At least *3* times during a 5000-spin trial? (random spins) (?)
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"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

ignatus

Test 2. Now played with a *29-step progression*....As you can see it busted *2* times in less than 3000 spins...
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

6th-sense

Quote from: Herby on Nov 09, 06:00 AM 2018
Its not really impossible but the probability for this event is very very small.
simulation 10.000.000 trials: 
{{1, 270381}, {2, 525423}, {3, 747825}, {4, 915471}, {5, 1019835}, {6,
   1056756}, {7, 1033931}, {8, 958090}, {9, 843986}, {10,
  710517}, {11, 569474}, {12, 437276}, {13, 319697}, {14,
  223657}, {15, 148815}, {16, 94892}, {17, 56760}, {18, 32723}, {19,
  17664}, {20, 9092}, {21, 4382}, {22, 1980}, {23, 840}, {24,
  355}, {25, 122}, {26, 40}, {27, 12}, {28, 4}}

this means 4 times I got longest uniques length 28

Nice test ...at the end of the 37 cycle ..unhit will always match repeats..Iggy ur doing a ten number test am I right?

ignatus

Quote from: 6th-sense on Nov 09, 07:13 AM 2018
Nice test ...at the end of the 37 cycle ..unhit will always match repeats..Iggy ur doing a ten number test am I right?

yes, nottogame, 10 numbers bet,...
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

nottophammer



Ignatus you sure you understand the method
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

ignatus

Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 09, 07:36 AM 2018


Ignatus you sure you understand the method

Yes notto :) ofc, now you play(?) (Bet every number that comes, up to 10 numbers, then stop) with the 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3  or (4) at the end, then STOP/Restart (also stop/restart at any hit..) yes..

I played this (same) way, but with Now a *31 step progression*...And, as you can see in the chart, it busted at spin 44 000- something..,
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

Herby

Quote from: ignatus on Nov 09, 06:52 AM 2018Well? Not really?

Mathematica Code, you could run it on a Raspberry Pi (cheapest computer, about 40 $)

Fun[] := Module[{}, n = 1;
  th = RandomInteger[36, 37];
  While[Length[Union[Take[th, n]]] == n, n++];
  n - 1]

erg = Table[Fun[], 10000000];
Tally[Sort[erg]]

Herby

Quote from: Herby on Nov 09, 08:00 AM 2018
Mathematica Code, you could run it on a Raspberry Pi (cheapest computer, about 40 $, software free)

Fun[] := Module[{}, n = 1;
  th = RandomInteger[36, 37];
  While[Length[Union[Take[th, n]]] == n, n++];
  n - 1]

erg = Table[Fun[], 10000000];
Tally[Sort[erg]]


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