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Hiring a statistician/mathematician

Started by Steve, Jul 16, 07:40 AM 2018

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Steve

To clarify some issues, I'm considering hiring a mathematician / statistician to address the forum. I'll pay.

The members will choose them. They must be educated with formal qualifications.

Basically members ask the questions and they answer. We'll figure a way to validate the answers are from the hired person.

Math beats a math game. You can win with statistics. Progression helps, right? Let's see what someone clearly educated and impartial says. Ask anything you want. Ideally we'll hire the kind of person casinos hire, which ensure casinos profit.

But I'm open to hiring someone else providing they have relevant formal qualifications, not a random self professed guru

Anyone interested?
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Bigbroben

Steve,

doesn't it all come down to n/37 (or 38) anyways?

  If the hired consultant is a genius but must answer basic question that the answer can be found with a little research on Google, he'll think we're out of elementary school.

Will you screen the questions to ffwd him?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Joe

Quote from: Bigbroben on Jul 16, 08:12 AM 2018doesn't it all come down to n/37 (or 38) anyways?

I was going to say something similar. Basically all you need to know about roulette, mathematically speaking, is that the payout is unfair and the trials are independent. Any expert is just going to restate those facts over and over, but maybe using statistical jargon which only a few people on the forum will understand.

But I guess it might be a fun thing to do. IMO it's better to get someone from outside to do it. I have a degree in Engineering and maths, which included some probability theory and stats, but I wouldn't call myself an expert.
Logic. It's always in the way.

maestro

QuoteTo clarify some issues, I'm considering hiring a mathematician / statistician to address the forum. I'll pay

would it not be better if money alocated for stat man be placed on roulette since you got the edge...

or i guess you might need some answears too :thumbsup:
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

Steve

 The point is to teach experts le maestro.
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Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Bebediktus3

Quote from: maestro on Jul 16, 08:41 AM 2018or i guess you might need some answears too
We all need answers - who not need - realy play bad.
But especially in the forum, all want that others will think about them something specifical.

That they are winners. Nothing more them interest, only opinion of others....
I have 16 years old son and see what they do and what they talk on internet, here are the same :).

Some years ago I put many efforts to see such " winners" and i saw " much"  them. I was very naive and thought, that at least some of them are good players and maybe will give some idea to me.  Here is really long story, which put to shame some of them till such level, that they left forums and stoped talk about roulette at all, some become aggressive and started to attack me.

But result was one - I did not saw any player, which in mine opinion will be possible, because his abilities to beat wheel. I saw few who can that do, but they were not from forums.

Finally are such situations - that are few guys, with who I collaborate regards roulette, but most of them I met not from roulette forums...
All others, from forums, usually are angry ( not clear why).

I suggested simply thing -you think,  that you are the winner but afraid to play in real casinos - can do the test on mine wheel through skype, very simply and I can be very good referee and mine wheel is really simple - if will be problems with it - can forgeth casino...

Not very clear what suggest Steve, but the first step is for players to see if he really can beat some simple wheel, or to see another player who can do that simply easier, or better...


Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

vladir

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Jul 16, 10:07 AM 2018
We all need answers - who not need - realy play bad.
But especially in the forum, all want that others will think about them something specifical.

That they are winners. Nothing more them interest, only opinion of others....
I have 16 years old son and see what they do and what they talk on internet, here are the same :).

Some years ago I put many efforts to see such " winners" and i saw " much"  them. I was very naive and thought, that at least some of them are good players and maybe will give some idea to me.  Here is really long story, which put to shame some of them till such level, that they left forums and stoped talk about roulette at all, some become aggressive and started to attack me.

But result was one - I did not saw any player, which in mine opinion will be possible, because his abilities to beat wheel. I saw few who can that do, but they were not from forums.

Finally are such situations - that are few guys, with who I collaborate regards roulette, but most of them I met not from roulette forums...
All others, from forums, usually are angry ( not clear why).

I suggested simply thing -you think,  that you are the winner but afraid to play in real casinos - can do the test on mine wheel through skype, very simply and I can be very good referee and mine wheel is really simple - if will be problems with it - can forgeth casino...

Not very clear what suggest Steve, but the first step is for players to see if he really can beat some simple wheel, or to see another player who can do that simply easier, or better...

Could you please english learn post before you on foruns ?Thanks!!!!
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

evs


winkel

Quote from: Steve on Jul 16, 07:40 AM 2018
To clarify some issues, I'm considering hiring a mathematician / statistician to address the forum. I'll pay.

The members will choose them. They must be educated with formal qualifications.

Basically members ask the questions and they answer. We'll figure a way to validate the answers are from the hired person.

Math beats a math game. You can win with statistics. Progression helps, right? Let's see what someone clearly educated and impartial says. Ask anything you want. Ideally we'll hire the kind of person casinos hire, which ensure casinos profit.

But I'm open to hiring someone else providing they have relevant formal qualifications, not a random self professed guru

Anyone interested?

Ask Bayes
There is always a game

Joe

Quote from: vladir on Jul 16, 10:59 AM 2018Could you please english learn post before you on foruns ?Thanks!!!!

lol
Logic. It's always in the way.

Bebediktus3

Quote from: vladir on Jul 16, 10:59 AM 2018Could you please english learn post before you on foruns ?Thanks!!!!
That is very familiar to me :)
When not have what to say always possible find grammar mistakes.
But I can say that not so bad to calculate your mistakes in one sentence :)
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

daveylibra

I must say I think its a great idea.
If we could ask a maths professor a question like "can we use repeaters to win at roulette?" and get a definitive answer, it would end some long debates.
Members, wouldn't you like to ask a guy like this questions for free?

Andre Chass

What a waste of time! You don't need to be any Einstein or mathematician to know that it's impossible to beat roulette in the long run.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 16, 05:37 PM 2018
What a waste of time! You don't need to be any Einstein or mathematician to know that it's impossible to beat roulette in the long run.

I said "long run"

You can win for months or even years... But your time will come.

That's why I moved to baccarat and I test roulette systems for fun.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Wally Gator

Quote from: Steve on Jul 16, 07:40 AM 2018
To clarify some issues, I'm considering hiring a mathematician / statistician to address the forum. I'll pay.

The members will choose them. They must be educated with formal qualifications.

Basically members ask the questions and they answer. We'll figure a way to validate the answers are from the hired person.

Math beats a math game. You can win with statistics. Progression helps, right? Let's see what someone clearly educated and impartial says. Ask anything you want. Ideally we'll hire the kind of person casinos hire, which ensure casinos profit.

But I'm open to hiring someone else providing they have relevant formal qualifications, not a random self professed guru

Anyone interested?

It could possibly be fun for some of the forum members, but not sure it’s necessary.  A good friend of mine is a Professor of Mathematics at MIT.  He teaches primarily Representation Theory, Quantum Groups, and Noncommutative Algebra.  Over the years I’ve had him examine many of the more interesting strategies brought forth on this forum.  With a bit of a grin, his analysis is typically that roulette is not the game of choice for consistent winning.  His suggestion: study and practice Poker.

Should you decide to move forward with hiring someone, I’d be glad to ask him to ask another colleague if there would be interest.  I’m certain he wouldn’t be interested, but there may be others at MIT who would get a kick out of it ... doubt it would be cheap though.
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

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