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ignatus

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Well, here it is, Final craziness payed of in the End "SUPERTRACK15" (credits to notto!) And myself!  ;)

Notto was the inspiration, although, i don't know he ever got it right? (10 numbers) Now, My "CrazyTrack 15" was on the right path, although, i played it without any "triggers" NOW same bet, BUT played with the Trigger (makes all the difference)

TRIGGER/Gameplay: You *don't* place any bet UNTIL you got a repeater from the last 10 spins, THEN you start the BET, -->Begin BET that single repeater, And every number that follows, UNTIL you either

(1) Get a hit (Then you STOP/Remove all bets, and *wait for a new trigger/repeater* You Don't bet that number just hit again, you wait for a *new repeater* before placing bets again)

(2) You reach the End of the Progressionline, (Yes, this will be a Major loss?) But considering the winrate here, you *should Quit* when you reach a realistic wingoal. And i belive that is absolute possible, to be profitable, looking at the charts?....

Progressionline 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,4,5,8,13,21 STOP

Well, that's pretty much it? I just fineshed the code, and looking at the charts i was very suprised. ...ofcourse, being realistic, this may not be so easy to play on LIVE-tables...idk

Anyway, hope you like it!  O0

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RX-Testing-code

Code: [Select]
system "SUPERTRACK 15 +TriggerBET"
// © ignatus 2018 ©

method "main"
begin
  while starting a new session
  begin
       Set List[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,4,5,8,13,21] to Record "progression" Data
       Set List[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16] to Record "Spin Counter" Data
  end

   while on each spin
  begin

  if any inside bet won each
  begin
  clear Record "last15" layout
  clear Record "last10" layout
  put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
  set flag "Bet" False
  end
 
  if flag "Bet" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last15" layout list
  end

  copy last Number to Record "last1" layout

  IF Record "last1" layout is found within Record "last10" layout each
  begin
  set flag "Bet" True
  clear Record "last15" layout
  clear Record "last10" layout
  put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  copy last Number to to Record "last15" layout
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last15" layout list
  put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
  end

  if any inside bet lost each
 begin
  add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last15" layout list
  add 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
 end


 if Record "Spin Counter" Data = 16 each time
 begin
  set flag "Bet" False
  clear Record "last15" layout
  put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
 end

if total bankroll >= 1000 each time
begin
stop session
end

if total bankroll <= -1000 each time
begin
stop session
end


  If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
   clear Record "last15" layout

   Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
   put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
   End

Track last Number for 15 spins to
 Record "last15" layout

Track last Number for 10 spins to
 Record "last10" layout


  end
END


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ignatus

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4 Live-sessions, as you can see in this charts, it will not always win (it's not a HG?) but i guess it damn close, /playin with a "normal" wingoal/a normal session 200-300spins, i believe "winrate" would be pretty high....
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RNG...

El equilibrio no es un problema en la ruleta.
Es una ventaja que le da la rueda, porque la rueda ...
temporalmente perderá el equilibrio y luego volverá a balancearse .

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RNG...



Yes. That's how the chart looks, sometimes it wins, sometimes it lose (it's not a long-term winner), but...hit'n run, i believe it can be profitable.
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I think the only thing you do wrong, may be the progressions, you can also consider doing another type of progression, not lose, but you can look and try.
El equilibrio no es un problema en la ruleta.
Es una ventaja que le da la rueda, porque la rueda ...
temporalmente perderá el equilibrio y luego volverá a balancearse .

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I think the only thing you do wrong, may be the progressions, you can also consider doing another type of progression, not lose, but you can look and try.

Alright  :thumbsup:
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Why do you keep talking about "hit and run"?

All of your short mini sessions will eventually always add up to one continual long session.

Hit and Run is a total fallacy and the maths proves it.

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Why do you keep talking about "hit and run"?

All of your short mini sessions will eventually always add up to one continual long session.

Hit and Run is a total fallacy and the maths proves it.

Well? That's absolute not true? TO make a system/betselection *WORK* you Must find the best/ultimate wingoal and progression for that particular bet.....IF you play Endlessly you WILL lose with a certanty of 1000%....so That what i mean.
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Got any chards when betting without the trigger?

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Got any chards when betting without the trigger?

Betting non-stop without trigger is disaster. (have tested)

Now, testing Progression;

1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,4,5,6,7,8  STOP= (525u Needed)

115/155 Games won = 74& Winrate

Total = +3146u

(WG +100, SL -250)

With this SL will, in reality cover only 13 steps..


RX-code

Code: [Select]
system "SUPERTRACK 15 +TriggerBET 2"
// © ignatus 2018 ©

method "main"
begin
  while starting a new session
  begin
       Set List[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] to Record "progression" Data
       Set List[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16] to Record "Spin Counter" Data
  end

   while on each spin
  begin

  if any inside bet won each
  begin
  clear Record "last15" layout
  clear Record "last10" layout
  put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
  set flag "Bet" False
  end
 
  if flag "Bet" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last15" layout list
  end

  copy last Number to Record "last1" layout

  IF Record "last1" layout is found within Record "last10" layout each
  begin
  set flag "Bet" True
  clear Record "last15" layout
  clear Record "last10" layout
  put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  copy last Number to to Record "last15" layout
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last15" layout list
  put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
  end

  if any inside bet lost each
 begin
  add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last15" layout list
  add 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
 end


 if Record "Spin Counter" Data = 16 each time
 begin
  set flag "Bet" False
  clear Record "last15" layout
  put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
 end

{if total bankroll >= 1000 each time
begin
stop session
end

if total bankroll <= -1000 each time
begin
stop session
end }

if total bankroll >= 100 each time
begin
    add 1 to record "won sessions" Data index
    put 0 on total bankroll
    put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
end

if total bankroll <= -250 each time
begin
    add 1 to record "lost sessions" data index
    put 0 on total bankroll
    put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
end


  If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
   clear Record "last15" layout

   Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
   put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
   End

Track last Number for 15 spins to
 Record "last15" layout

Track last Number for 10 spins to
 Record "last10" layout


  end
END
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If you play a session of 100 spins and win 30 units and then stop and come back tomorrow and play another session of 100 spins it is exactly the same as playing 200 spins in one session.

Now you're talking about. "Triggers" which is another fallacy.
As each spin is an independent event how can past spins possibly effect the outcome.

First of all, im not talking to you anymore, this is the last reply you get from me, furthermore you are reported to moderator.

I HAVE already told you. "play another session of 100 spins it is exactly the same as playing 200 spins in one session. " THIS is *NOT* TRUE? Why? you play 100 spins, you win,  you QUIT. You play 200 spins, YOU LOSE. Hey? where is your "math" now?......owell... :yawn:

"Now you're talking about. "Triggers" which is another fallacy." You play without a Trigger you LOSE. You play the same bet/spins with a trigger and you WIN... Were is your "math/logic"....

Don't start this argument here, in this thread now,

you can start your own thread and argue about this..


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@ Let Me Win  - really!?

 - more annoying? the ads, they win hands down! - their not contributing anything - period!

-  for what it’s worth, quite simple - don’t spend your time reading or digesting any of Iggys wrk - look at the title to see who’s the OP

**BTW - do you really need someone’s permission to ‘let you win’  ::)
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@ Iggy - if you solely go down the path of the so called mathematical/statical plays of roulette  you will end up where 99% of players currently are

** I do encourage you to spend more time on some of your systems before moving on - there are some workable ones within

.....knowledge is good but imigination is notably greater (some times the math gurus/experts miss that one)
  - you seem to have a lot of the latter  :thumbsup:
-follow the beat of the ball-

“envy is ignorance, imitation is suicide”

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ignatus

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@ Iggy - if you solely go down the path of the so called mathematical/statical plays of roulette  you will end up where 99% of players currently are

** I do encourage you to spend more time on some of your systems before moving on - there are some workable ones within

.....knowledge is good but imigination is notably greater (some times the math gurus/experts miss that one)
  - you seem to have a lot of the latter  :thumbsup:

Thanks  ;)

Yes,... sometimes you must admit you were wrong,:S He was right this time (tested);

(no triggers, play non-stop)

259/385= 67% winrate

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(same bet/spins, with triggers)

95/150 = 63% winrate




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Alright, I think i got it now? (atleast made progress with this bet)....tried different Wingoals/Stoplosses with the old progression (none was successful) BUT then i tried a new progression, (a milder one);

*New* Progressionline: 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5


This new version/progression is played *non-stop* (no triggers)

(old progressionline testing)

(-300/+250)
=========================
61/105 = 58% wr (-400/+300)

+536

=======================

54/85 = 63% wr (-300/+250)

+1181

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23/35 = 65% wr (-300/-150)

(negative balace)
=========================

57/91 = 62% wr (-400/+250)   

+513
========================
82/113 = 73% wr (-500/+200)

+686

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*Test2*

Progressionline: 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5

(-300/+200)

46/71 = 65% winrate

+1731u



RX-Code

Code: [Select]
system "SUPERTRACK 15 FINAL"
// © ignatus 2018 ©

method "main"
begin
  while starting a new session
  begin
       Set List[1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5] to Record "progression" Data
       Set List[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16] to Record "Spin Counter" Data
  end

   while on each spin
  begin

  if any inside bet won each
  begin
  clear Record "last15" layout
  clear Record "last10" layout
  put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
  set flag "Bet" False
  end
 
 // if flag "Bet" true each
 // begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last15" layout list
 // end

  copy last Number to Record "last1" layout

  IF Record "last1" layout is found within Record "last10" layout each
  begin
  set flag "Bet" True
  clear Record "last15" layout
  clear Record "last10" layout
  put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  copy last Number to to Record "last15" layout
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last15" layout list
  put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
  end

  if any inside bet lost each
 begin
  add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last15" layout list
  add 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
 end


 if Record "Spin Counter" Data = 16 each time
 begin
  set flag "Bet" False
  clear Record "last15" layout
  put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
 end

{if total bankroll >= 1000 each time
begin
stop session
end

if total bankroll <= -1000 each time
begin
stop session
end }

if total bankroll >= 200 each time
begin
    add 1 to record "won sessions" Data index
    put 0 on total bankroll
    put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
end

if total bankroll <= -300 each time
begin
    add 1 to record "lost sessions" data index
    put 0 on total bankroll
    put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
end


  If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
   clear Record "last15" layout

   Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
   put 1 on Record "Spin Counter" Data Index
   End

Track last Number for 15 spins to
 Record "last15" layout

Track last Number for 10 spins to
 Record "last10" layout


  end
END
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