Can somebody check how does this guy play, it seems he has very efficient method

[Karl226m]

Hey Karl are these all of your videos?

yes , of course the channel belong to me, in all videos i am playing

[klw]

I don't see what the problem is Steve, yes some forum members need the protection from scammers but in this case he has already stated that no money will be required up front, so where is the risk?

If anyone is at risk it is Karl as he will be handing over thousands of hours of hard work for nothing to people he doesn't know and it is Karl that is at risk by people not paying as promised.

He has already stated that we can have a period of time to get used to the system , earn some money and pay him back. There is no risk at all to forum members .

Is it possible to re-consider in this instance ?

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[buffalowizard]

I don't see what the problem is Steve, yes some forum members need the protection from scammers but in this case he has already stated that no money will be required up front, so where is the risk?

If anyone is at risk it is Karl as he will be handing over thousands of hours of hard work for nothing to people he doesn't know and it is Karl that is at risk by people not paying as promised.

He has already stated that we can have a period of time to get used to the system , earn some money and pay him back. There is no risk at all to forum members .

Is it possible to re-consider in this instance ?

Is he saying that if the system doesn't work out for you, then no hard feelings, no payment required?
Or is it more a case of, you test then pay the 500?
You're right, he has the risk - because everyone could bullshit and say it loses (even if it wins) and not pay him a penny. Not saying they would but hypothetically speaking.

[RouletteGhost]

Grow up people

It’s another clown of a scammer

[Firefox]

yes man in august, But now i am not using that strategy anymore, i dont have to count any pockets distance, you said about august watch my videos after october and see that i am not counting anytinng anymore,
why you spoke about august and how about my 200 videos since october until now???
so now please analyze those videos,
i am waiting
Best, Karl

I did look at what you were doing since August. In December you were really excited about numbers such as 27,9,3 or 32,8,2 coming up in conjunction.

This has no significance. As I said you could call those pockets ABC or XYZ and it would be the same game. They are just labels on the wheel and the layout. The numbers are just tags for the pockets. Their numerical value has no importance in any logical advantage system.

Until you provide some indication of how the system obtains an advantage, I think you are just betting on random numbers. You don't have to say exactly how it works, but I've seen nothing so far which indicates you have an advantage.

[Steve]

please send me email, on my new email which i will post soon and there you order the link to the video, the orders here are not valid as i said YOU NOT PAY ANYTHING AT THE BEGINNING

And Karl, you already said you are looking at selling it, except you dont intend to take up-front payment.

I also explained why "no up-front payment" doesnt mean it isnt a scam.

[Steve]

I don't see what the problem is Steve, yes some forum members need the protection from scammers but in this case he has already stated that no money will be required up front, so where is the risk?

Most people will think short term tests are good enough. They dont know almost every progression system wins short term, and only later crashes. As I said before:

Say if 10 people get the system free. With progression, maybe 9/10 players win and think the system works initially.

3 of the 9 do more testing and learn better. The remaining 6 are convinced it works, and purchase.

Karl, i think you partially believe your system has some merit, but i think there are too many red flags. I think your aim is selling.

But ok so you are giving your system up front free. In that case i suggest people test very thoroughly, and understand progression systems have a very high success rate in short term. Eventually they crash. SO BEFORE ANYONE SENDS MONEY, TEST THOROUGHLY.

Specifically you should test the working principle, and with flat bets, not progression. Progression is nothing but different size bets on different spins, with the same old odds.

And Karl, you havent answered my question about your claim to beat RNG.

You said:

i never said that one RNG (is not RNG is just software Roulette game) or other is defective

I dont think you know what RNG is. It is "random number generator", which is used by "software roulette".

And i asked: Then what are you saying exactly? You said something like there's a pattern. Which games does this apply to?

I can see language is a barrier here. But I can still see the holes in your claims.

[Steve]

Grow up people
It’s another clown of a scammer

I agree but it's still important to keep an open mind. You know once I even let Alabalah state his case. I saw all the holes and initially kept quiet. I started to speak up when it was getting really obvious, but many people still had no clue.

And eventually the stink of it got so bad, only about half of members saw the nonsense for what it was, and i had to ban him for the  good of the remaining believers. Of course I was attacked for that.

I have the benefit of experience when it comes to new gurus on forums. They should be allowed free speech etc in the interests of being open and productive. But if the line gets crossed, of course something must be done.

The problem is there are so many new self-professed gurus. Even gurus from years ago still have people fooled. I still hear "unintelligents" going on about CEH's secret.  They come and go. The dominant flavor for now is Turbo and repeats. The gurus exist because there is a constant influx of new, inexperienced and gullible people to keep things rolling. It makes matters worse when half the members (even long-term members) have such poor understanding of basic probability.

In the end all anyone experienced can do is say their piece, and let people make their mistakes.

Having said all that, Karl can say his piece etc, but if that line is crossed then I have to take action. If it turns out he's honest, no problem - all is good.

Having being the target of bullshit from people who lie their assess off, I'm particularly receptive to anyone being falsely accused of scamming etc. There are always two sides of the story. And while you may be right about Karl, we'd still need to be open to possibilities. Otherwise we shut ourselves off and dont learn. The balance must also consider not wasting time on obvious bullshit - which it reaches when you see things like blatant contradictions, bad logic that you know to be bad etc. - the kind of things turbo does, although not everyone understands it.

[Karl226m]

Grow up people

It’s another clown of a scammer

i have not needs to giving you any strategy, you guys requested a lot on my channel, that push me to said i will share my strategy with you guys, i might think twice than,
scammer who is selling something and take the money before,
as i said you dont need to pay me at the beginning you can do it after 30 days as you want.
ok , i wrote you on my black list

[Karl226m]

I did look at what you were doing since August. In December you were really excited about numbers such as 27,9,3 or 32,8,2 coming up in conjunction.

This has no significance. As I said you could call those pockets ABC or XYZ and it would be the same game. They are just labels on the wheel and the layout. The numbers are just tags for the pockets. Their numerical value has no importance in any logical advantage system.

Until you provide some indication of how the system obtains an advantage, I think you are just betting on random numbers. You don't have to say exactly how it works, but I've seen nothing so far which indicates you have an advantage.

sadly you dont know anything about roulette,
cool

[Roulettebeater]

Karl

I agree with u, this forum lost its sense since long time, all what you receive only critics from some members, i suggest we move ahead.

Regards

[Karl226m]

Most people will think short term tests are good enough. They dont know almost every progression system wins short term, and only later crashes. As I said before:

And Karl, you havent answered my question about your claim to beat RNG.

You said:

I dont think you know what RNG is. It is "random number generator", which is used by "software roulette".

And i asked: Then what are you saying exactly? You said something like there's a pattern. Which games does this apply to?

I can see language is a barrier here. But I can still see the holes in your claims.

i knew what RNG means, i already explained in my very fist comment on this post here,
search for my very first comment and see
and i said RNG you called guys wrong cause is better you call like Software Roulette, cause the numbers at roulette are not random.
i played at all those Software as you can see in my videos, and i smashed all

please quote next time my words

[Firefox]

As far as I can tell he uses a positive progression system, not a negative one.

He starts off with 20 units and if he wins reinvests those winnings making gradually bigger bets on about 10 to 20 numbers each time. This is fine. For every time he gets a win of 300  there will be 15 tries where he loses 20.  Plus a few more to account for the house edge on his action.

It doesn't take long to lose 20. Much of the time  he gets wiped out in a few spins. He's plenty of time each day to make a hit and do the losses. Sometimes he does post a losing session where he does well initially. He may even be up a bit in the short term due to the normal ups and downs of gambling which may have convinced him his logarithmic selection is the key.

He's basically playing a rev lab game on the numbers which looks spectacular when it does well. But there are steady losses of his initial stake in the background.

[Karl226m]

exactly ,
today also i start with 20 and i made 1000

i mean there might be guys who can do what i am do it with 20â,¬ once or twice, but every day since august?
if you have no clue you are out in the first , two spins, cause 20â,¬ is not much, or you can do it one time as i said,
but i am doing everyday,
and as i said playing roulette with 5000â,¬ even my grandma can do it, i mean you dont have to have any skills to play roulette with 5000â,¬