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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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atlantis

Hi Ivo,

I thought about that too - maybe something in that. :)
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

miniroll171

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 20, 11:56 AM 2019
OK. fair enough - as I said in the post, was only an experiment...
There may be better way utilising virtual betting, 'no bets' or 'stopping points' for example. We just need to figure out a better strategy for betting these 1's and 2's 'pair' results.
Miniroll - I suppose you DID test using last 3 'pair results' and not just last 3 outcomes??
A.

Hi yeah i am looking at the 1 1 1 2 2 11 1 2 2 results, so next bet would be 2 as last 3 results were 122.

I'm not looking at the 0-36 numbers spun on the wheel if thats what you mean?

I think money managment and progression is one thing, but you really need to be more accurate with the bets which is what Winner seeems to have done, or at least found a pattern that wins most of the time. I'm not sure how and I think unless we can crack that, then it's really no different for us just betting on red/black and suffering from the house edge in the long run.

atlantis

Quote from: miniroll171 on Feb 20, 12:28 PM 2019Hi yeah i am looking at the 1 1 1 2 2 11 1 2 2 results, so next bet would be 2 as last 3 results were 122.

 I'm not looking at the 0-36 numbers spun on the wheel if thats what you mean?

Eh? Sorry - do not understand. Are you using RB, OE or HL ec's?  How are you getting your 1 and 2 pair results if you do not look at the wheel?
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

miniroll171

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 20, 12:32 PM 2019
Eh? Sorry - do not understand. Are you using RB, OE or HL ec's?  How are you getting your 1 and 2 pair results if you do not look at the wheel?
A.

Sorry didn't explain that very well lol. I meant for placing the bet I'm looking at the last 3, 1 or 2 pair results. Of course I look at wheel to get the 1 or 2 results, so a high number followed by a  high number would be a 2 and a low followed by a high number would be a 1

atlantis

LOL! :) Thanks for your clarification. That answers my question then. I understand now that you did do it correctly. :)
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

mohitomish

Quote from: Winner on Feb 19, 04:43 PM 2019
I’m sure you’ll say short use the results and the end of your play to figure out the switch.
Then play the short series and figure out the switch within the switch.meaning how long will you bet before switching.back to short series .now before you do this you have to figure out the long series how often do they come.1112221111112222122222212222221111.
I think I just gave you the answer

Sorry, couldn't help myself, winner please correct me If I'm wrong but from what I understand you are comparing recent trends with the larger or global trends then take the decision on the switch?

Mako

Nice work attempting to brainstorm it guys, and thanks for the large scale tests miniroll.  And thanks to Winner for continuing to help. :thumbsup:

We need to put all of Winner's switch examples in the thread together into a master list, then feed it to an AI program to determine the pattern...someone get IBM Watson on the phone...

Winner

Here is something you can experiment with.
30 switches ever time you win go to the next patterns

1st 1221212
2-    21111222
3-11212212
4-12111112
5-22211211
6-22211211
7-12211221
8-21212111
9-112212111
10-22222222
11-22212221
12-22112222
13-12111122
14-11112122
15-12221121
16-12122111
17-11111112
18-11111221
19-11112222
20-22221221
21-12222122
22-11122211
23-11121222
24-22212212
25-12221121
26-22111211
27-21222122
28-11211211
29-11211111
30-22121111

Now start with number 1 on a win move through all 30 pattern on a loss continue until you hit .this how I found my switches within a switch.
Progression
111248163264

Winner

3600/1 that s not bad statistics .and again I’m not looking fo approval .its something I’ve worked on for a while.
There’s nothing complicated about betting .
Roulette is full of sequences and they repeat but they have limits on how long they repeat.

6th-sense

example line 5 and 6 a spin results? would lose all those bets? so plus 18 on your wins are you continously betting the progression win or lose? as those results would wipe out restart on every line after? you would need 128 wins throughout the overall game to compensate...read that wrong...but looks like matrix style..sorry didnt read it properly

Winner

Quote from: 6th-sense on Feb 20, 02:58 PM 2019
example line 5 and 6 a spin results? would lose all those bets? so plus 18 on your wins are you continously betting the progression win or lose? as those results would wipe out restart on every line after? you would need 128 wins throughout the overall game to compensate...read that wrong...but looks like matrix style..sorry didnt read it properly
No it’s not a matrix and no it does not wipe out br
Sorry typing to fast ,line 6
22111211.
Like I said on a win move down.

6th-sense

yep sorry...read it wrong couldnt delete post

Mister Eko

Quote from: Winner on Feb 20, 03:08 PM 2019
No it’s not a matrix and no it does not wipe out br
Sorry typing to fast ,line 6
22111211.
Like I said on a win move down.

Thanks for the clarification and helping us! So are you starting always with line 1 and move up on a win ? But as it seems the progression not gives always a prifit for you, just if you hit in the first spin, am I right?

Winner

Quote from: Mister Eko on Feb 20, 03:29 PM 2019
Thanks for the clarification and helping us! So are you starting always with line 1 and move up on a win ? But as it seems the progression not gives always a prifit for you, just if you hit in the first spin, am I right?
Building your bank roll takes time once you your ahead and even If ilose some session I’m ok .

Winner

Im in a position where I can just bet 1248 16  32 64

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