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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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mohitomish

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 16, 07:32 PM 2019
My Agaianst, and Same betting type works not bad, but you must know when to switch. I choose 222 and 111 no bet because of long series of 1111111 or 2222222 or 111222111222. Rather no bet. But see when I switch.


2,2,1, (A) 2,2,1, -3 A 1,1,2, +0 A 2,1,1, +1 S 2,1,2, +2 S 1,2,1, +5 A 2,2,1, +4 S 1,1,2, +2 A 2,2,2, +3 nb 1,1,1, nb 2,1,1, A 2,2,1, +2 S 2,2,1, +5 A 1,1,2, +8 A 2,1,2, +7 S 2,1,2, +10 A 2,2,2, nb

Flatbet +10

Hi Eko,

U r not following the rules u posted before.  after the first losses and u r -3,  u should have played ASS but u played AAS,  Can i know why?

Colin67

Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 20, 10:49 PM 2019
How about do some tests using Parlay 31

Win two in a row makes a new high in this parley progression.

1 1 1 2 2 4 4 8 8 - 31 unit bankroll

Nine chances to hit two in a row.

Example betting Red:

Bet R 1u - Loss -1
Bet R 1u - Loss -2
Bet R 1u - Loss -3
Bet R 2u - Loss -5
Bet R 2u - Loss -7
Bet R 4u - Win  -3 Parley the win and bet 8u
Bet R 8u - Win  +5 New High Restart
(If we lost the Parley bet ex. Bet R 8u - Loss -11 then we continue with progression)
Bet R 4u - Win -7 Parley the win
Bet R 8u - Win +1 New High Restart
(If we lost the Parley bet ex. Bet R 8u - Loss -15 then we continue with progression)
Bet R 8u - Loss -23
Bet R 8u - Win -15 Parley the win
Bet R 16u - Win +1

Do not count the parley bet as a step in the progression.

How about combining the dlembert with the parlay so up 1 if you lose then when you win you parlay the bet,and if the parlay bet is lost you move up 1 again ?

poluvolo

YES  I agree
even  Mister eko is very kindly guy and answer to my privet question
still I am very confused about his method rules
I WISH POST HIS METHOD RULES FOR LAST TIME AND BE MORE CLEARLY
BCAUSE  HIS BET SELECTION IS VERY INTERSTING
cheers

boyd30

Thanks Andre Chass for GLC method. I decided to test that too on Mr Eko's number. Good start and max unit to bet so far for this was 3 units. Not the same high as previous method, but lower stake.

Andre Chass

Quote from: boyd30 on Mar 21, 03:04 PM 2019
Thanks Andre Chass for GLC method. I decided to test that too on Mr Eko's number. Good start and max unit to bet so far for this was 3 units. Not the same high as previous method, but lower stake.

:thumbsup:
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: jono1167 on Mar 21, 12:48 AM 2019
Thanks for posting this Andre...

Previously we have been using something very similar, except Atlantis called it 'best of five' - Instead of seven steps, there were five. The seven steps seems to be safer because you don't have to move up as quickly. 

Great info - I will test this with Mister Eko's numbers.

I hate using a progression, but since I don't have a HG, I'm forced to use one.

Cheers

Post the results here

:thumbsup:
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

jono1167

Toughest session yet..... see results below....

2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+40) -7 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W  (+44) -6 fb
2,1,2 - 0,1,2  LLW  (+42) -7 fb
1,0,1 - 1  W  (+46) -6 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W  (+47) -5 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+41) -8 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW  (+38) -8 fb
1,1,2 - 1   W  (+43) -7 fb
1,2,1 - 2,2,1  LLW   (+40) -8 fb 
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+22) -11 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+15) -12 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+16) -13 fb
1,1,2 -,2,2,2  LLL. (-14) -16 fb
1,1,1 - 1    W (-2) -15 fb
0,1,2,2 - 2  W (+9) -14 fb
1,2,0,1 - 1  W (+19) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+20) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+21) -13 fb
1,1,0,0,1 - 1  W (+30) -12 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+38) -11 fb
0,1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW (+32) -14 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+25) -15 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W (34) -14 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (+26) -14 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW (+29) -15 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+21) -16 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+31) -15 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW  (+30) -15 fb       
2,1,0,1 - 2,2,2  LLL  (+0) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (+1) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-40) -21 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W. (-25) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW  (-28) -21 fb
0,1,1,2 - 1  W  (-13) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (-12) -20 fb
0,1,2,1 - 0,1  LW (-11) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (+3) -19 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW (-9) -20 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (-8) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+6) -19 fb
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-36) -22 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (-20) -21 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (-5) -20 fb
2,2,1 - 2  W (+9) -19 fb
1,2,1 - 1  W (+22) -18 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+23) -18 fb
2,1,1 - 1  W (+35) -17 fb
2,2,2 - 2 W  (+46) -16 fb
2,1,1 - 2,2,2   LLL (+40) -19 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+37) -20 fb
1,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+38) -20 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+39) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+40) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+45) -19 fb
1,1,2 - 0,1  LW (+46) -18 fb
1,2,2 - 2  W (+50) -17 fb
1,1,1 - 1   W  (+53) -16 fb
2,2,1 - 1 W (+55) -15 fb

Total profit: +55 units (This session +9)
Flat bet -15 (This session -11).

I won’t be able to salvage the flat-bet but that’s ok.... I plan to use a conservative progression.

No more testing the ‘Dominant 3’. I’m happy the system has proved itself against a tough set of numbers.

I’m now going to test some of the other systems against Mr Eko’s numbers.
😊

Andre Chass

Quote from: jono1167 on Mar 23, 01:07 AM 2019
Toughest session yet..... see results below....

2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+40) -7 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W  (+44) -6 fb
2,1,2 - 0,1,2  LLW  (+42) -7 fb
1,0,1 - 1  W  (+46) -6 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W  (+47) -5 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+41) -8 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW  (+38) -8 fb
1,1,2 - 1   W  (+43) -7 fb
1,2,1 - 2,2,1  LLW   (+40) -8 fb 
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+22) -11 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+15) -12 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+16) -13 fb
1,1,2 -,2,2,2  LLL. (-14) -16 fb
1,1,1 - 1    W (-2) -15 fb
0,1,2,2 - 2  W (+9) -14 fb
1,2,0,1 - 1  W (+19) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+20) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+21) -13 fb
1,1,0,0,1 - 1  W (+30) -12 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+38) -11 fb
0,1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW (+32) -14 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+25) -15 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W (34) -14 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (+26) -14 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW (+29) -15 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+21) -16 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+31) -15 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW  (+30) -15 fb       
2,1,0,1 - 2,2,2  LLL  (+0) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (+1) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-40) -21 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W. (-25) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW  (-28) -21 fb
0,1,1,2 - 1  W  (-13) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (-12) -20 fb
0,1,2,1 - 0,1  LW (-11) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (+3) -19 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW (-9) -20 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (-8) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+6) -19 fb
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-36) -22 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (-20) -21 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (-5) -20 fb
2,2,1 - 2  W (+9) -19 fb
1,2,1 - 1  W (+22) -18 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+23) -18 fb
2,1,1 - 1  W (+35) -17 fb
2,2,2 - 2 W  (+46) -16 fb
2,1,1 - 2,2,2   LLL (+40) -19 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+37) -20 fb
1,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+38) -20 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+39) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+40) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+45) -19 fb
1,1,2 - 0,1  LW (+46) -18 fb
1,2,2 - 2  W (+50) -17 fb
1,1,1 - 1   W  (+53) -16 fb
2,2,1 - 1 W (+55) -15 fb

Total profit: +55 units (This session +9)
Flat bet -15 (This session -11).

I won’t be able to salvage the flat-bet but that’s ok.... I plan to use a conservative progression.

No more testing the ‘Dominant 3’. I’m happy the system has proved itself against a tough set of numbers.

I’m now going to test some of the other systems against Mr Eko’s numbers.
😊

What kind of progression did you use?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

jono1167

Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 23, 01:29 AM 2019
What kind of progression did you use?

Hi Andre

This was the d’alembert progression. I was already halfway through this test when you posted information about the ‘Gr8Player's Progression’.

I plan on testing this soon.

Cheers Andre

Let Me Win

The great progression was used successfully but with ten steps instead of seven in the book "Ten Days At Monte Carlo at The Banks Expense.


link:s://archive.org/details/TenDaysAtMonteCarloAtTheBankSEx

boyd30

Quote from: jono1167 on Mar 23, 01:07 AM 2019
Toughest session yet..... see results below....

2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+40) -7 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W  (+44) -6 fb
2,1,2 - 0,1,2  LLW  (+42) -7 fb
1,0,1 - 1  W  (+46) -6 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W  (+47) -5 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+41) -8 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW  (+38) -8 fb
1,1,2 - 1   W  (+43) -7 fb
1,2,1 - 2,2,1  LLW   (+40) -8 fb 
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+22) -11 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+15) -12 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+16) -13 fb
1,1,2 -,2,2,2  LLL. (-14) -16 fb
1,1,1 - 1    W (-2) -15 fb
0,1,2,2 - 2  W (+9) -14 fb
1,2,0,1 - 1  W (+19) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+20) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+21) -13 fb
1,1,0,0,1 - 1  W (+30) -12 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+38) -11 fb
0,1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW (+32) -14 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+25) -15 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W (34) -14 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (+26) -14 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW (+29) -15 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+21) -16 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+31) -15 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW  (+30) -15 fb       
2,1,0,1 - 2,2,2  LLL  (+0) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (+1) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-40) -21 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W. (-25) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW  (-28) -21 fb
0,1,1,2 - 1  W  (-13) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (-12) -20 fb
0,1,2,1 - 0,1  LW (-11) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (+3) -19 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW (-9) -20 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (-8) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+6) -19 fb
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-36) -22 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (-20) -21 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (-5) -20 fb
2,2,1 - 2  W (+9) -19 fb
1,2,1 - 1  W (+22) -18 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+23) -18 fb
2,1,1 - 1  W (+35) -17 fb
2,2,2 - 2 W  (+46) -16 fb
2,1,1 - 2,2,2   LLL (+40) -19 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+37) -20 fb
1,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+38) -20 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+39) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+40) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+45) -19 fb
1,1,2 - 0,1  LW (+46) -18 fb
1,2,2 - 2  W (+50) -17 fb
1,1,1 - 1   W  (+53) -16 fb
2,2,1 - 1 W (+55) -15 fb

Total profit: +55 units (This session +9)
Flat bet -15 (This session -11).

I won’t be able to salvage the flat-bet but that’s ok.... I plan to use a conservative progression.

No more testing the ‘Dominant 3’. I’m happy the system has proved itself against a tough set of numbers.

I’m now going to test some of the other systems against Mr Eko’s numbers.
😊

What was the biggest unit you had to bet?

jono1167

Quote from: boyd30 on Mar 23, 03:04 AM 2019
What was the biggest unit you had to bet?

The biggest bet was 16 units. Not ideal but they were tough numbers.

A bet of 16 is level 5 of a Marty. A bet of 16 is level 16 in the D’alembert.

Let us know if you have more success with a different progression.

loukoumas

Regarding Gr8 players prog:
LEVEL 1:  âˆ'1, 1, 1,âˆ'1, âˆ'1,âˆ'1.âˆ'1        âˆ'3 up next LEVEL
LEVEL 2:  2, âˆ'2, âˆ'2, âˆ'2, 2, 2, âˆ'2       âˆ'2 up next LEVEL
LEVEL 3:  3, âˆ'3. âˆ'3, 3.âˆ'3,âˆ'3,âˆ'3       âˆ'9  up next LEVEL what we do here? Go back to LEVEL 2 or continue?
LEVEL 4:  4, 4. 4 what we do here? Go back 2  LEVELS (start from  LEVEL2)? Or 1 back, start from LEVEL 3?

Let Me Win

You can read the book it is fully explained there with examples.

loukoumas

I google it but i couldnt find it, where is it Letmewin?

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