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## Bonkers Outside The Box System

Started by Taotie, Feb 21, 06:55 AM 2022

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#### Taotie

I will share a good system. It will take some time. Stay if you're interested or leave if you're not.

This system targets repeaters with focus on 'numerical finales'. More to that, it also focuses on 'numerological base numbers'.

Hey, that's why I posted in "Outside The Box".

Finales:
0,10,20,30
1,11,21,31
2,12,22,32
3,13,23,33
4,14,24,34
5,15,25,35
6,16,26,36
7,17,27
8,18,28
9,19,29

Numerology Base Numbers:
1,10,28,19
2,11,20,29
3,12,21,30
4,13,22,31
5,14,23,32
6,15,24,33
7,16,25,34
8,17,26,35
9,18,27,36
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#### algojack

I' m interested.

QuoteI will share a good system.

What do you mean by "good"? How much have you tested it and what were the results?

#### poluvolo

i am serious interest

+1

#### number25

Quote from: Taotie on Feb 21, 06:55 AM 2022
I will share a good system. It will take some time. Stay if you're interested or leave if you're not.

This system targets repeaters with focus on 'numerical finales'. More to that, it also focuses on 'numerological base numbers'.

Hey, that's why I posted in "Outside The Box".

Finales:
0,10,20,30
1,11,21,31
2,12,22,32
3,13,23,33
4,14,24,34
5,15,25,35
6,16,26,36
7,17,27
8,18,28
9,19,29

Numerology Base Numbers:
1,10,28,19
2,11,20,29
3,12,21,30
4,13,22,31
5,14,23,32
6,15,24,33
7,16,25,34
8,17,26,35
9,18,27,36
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Amazing things can happen with these numbers!   Let's see how you make them come alive!

#### Taotie

Quote from: algojack on Feb 21, 10:08 AM 2022What do you mean by "good"? How much have you tested it and what were the results?

It's good because once you get started you always have a bet on the table. You could be betting anywhere between 3 &16 numbers.

It's a high action system with an interesting mix of bets. No waiting around for hours before playing.

#### Taotie

Only numbers 10 through 36 qualify as triggers.

Ignoring 0, look back no further than 5 spins for any new trigger.

Always a rolling search for newest trigger.

Always bet on most recent Finale repeat and or any numerology Base number repeat, or blending of the two.

This can mean 2, 3, or 4 single numbers are used to compile the whole bet.

The current bet is repeated continuously until a new trigger shows, then the bet is switched for every new trigger.

Include Finales & Bases for each bet.

Finale Example: 14,8,17,21,0,24. Repeat finale 4.(14,24)

14 base is 5, 24 base is 6.

Whole bet is (4,5,6),14,15,16,24,25,26,34,35,36

Base Example: 6,12,27,11,36. Repeat Base 9.(27,36)

27 is Finale 7, 36 is Finale 6.

Whole bet is (6,7,9),16,17,19,26,27,29,36

Blend Example: 5,6,12,27,11. Repeat Blend (12,11)

12 is Finale 2 Base 3. 11 is Finale 1 Base 2. The repeat is Finale 2/Base 2

Whole bet is (1,2,3),11,12,13,21,22,23,31,32,33

Both Example: 34,6,10,12,30. Repeat Finale 0 (10,30)

Repeat Base 3   (12,30)

10 is Finale 0 Base 1, 30 is Finale 0 Base 3
12 is Finale 2 Base 3, 30 is Finale 0 Base 3

Whole bet is, (0,1,2,3),10,11,12,13,20,21,22,23,30,31,32,33.

Two number Example: 19,0,14,0,7,7,19. Two number Repeat 19. (19,19)

19 is Finale 9 Base 1

Whole bet is (1,9),11,19,21,29

#### Taotie

Dominant Even Chance Filter.

Always place chips on 0 when included in a whole bet. For obvious reasons it is exempt from the EC filter.

Before betting on the most recent trigger, and ignoring 0 check last 5 spins for dominant ECs.

5 of same EC is most dominant.

Any ECs with 4 are next most dominant.

5 wins over 4.

From the whole bet only wager on those within the Dominant EC group or groups.

Example: 14,8,17,21,0,24. Repeat finale 4.(14,24)

14 base is 5, 24 base is 6.

Whole bet is (4,5,6),14,15,16,24,25,26,34,35,36

No dominant EC

Wager whole bet 4,5,6,14,15,16,24,25,26,34,35,36

Example: 15,13,19,4,31. Base repeat 4.(13,31)

13 is Finale 3, 31 is Finale 1.

Whole bet is (1,3,4),11,13,14,21,23,24,31,33,34

Dominant EC's, Black & Odd (4 each)

Wager only 1,3,4,11,13,21,23,24,31,33 Omit 14,34

Example: 16,3,21,5,12. Repeat Base 3 (21,12)

12 is Finale 2 Base 3, 21 is Finale 1 Base 3

Whole bet is (1,2,3),11,12,13,21,22,23,31,32,33

Dominant EC, Red. (5 Reds)

Wager only 1,3,12,21,23,32. Omit 2,11,13,22,31,33

On occasion an omitted number will show. When this happens add in the omitted numbers and

play the rest of the current game using the whole bets ignoring the EC filter.

The current game ends with new bankroll high, or progression completion. Yes, the system uses a progression.

Any new game started includes the dominant EC filtering once again.

#### Taotie

I will leave it here for now.

I have shared enough for people to play around with or tweak to their own designs.

If there is enough interest I will post my progression and money management component for the system.

#### Roulettebeater

Quote from: Taotie on Feb 22, 02:21 AM 2022
I will leave it here for now.

I have shared enough for people to play around with or tweak to their own designs.

If there is enough interest I will post my progression and money management component for the system.

I was excited about it,  but when you just mentioned the word â€žprogressionâ€œ my excitement vanished
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

#### Taotie

That's ok, on the whole progressions are not popular, and the debate as to their worth has been going on forever.

I have always maintained that there is no advantage flat betting over progression betting.

Drawdowns can increase with progressions,but so can profits.

Take this simple example,

You bet 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1. You lose. You lost 20 units over 20 bets.

I bet, 1,1,2,3,5,8. I lose. I lost 20 units over 6 bets.

Your possible win gain was never more than 35 units. My possible win gain peaked at 268 units.

But we both lost this time.

In my opinion we both wagered and lost a flat bet of 20 units.

#### poluvolo

Firstly thanks for sharing your method
How many bets after each trigger?
what kind of progression?   +1,-1 for example?
Which of these different variations has the better results?
stoploss?

#### Roulettebeater

Quote from: Taotie on Feb 22, 02:45 AM 2022
That's ok, on the whole progressions are not popular, and the debate as to their worth has been going on forever.

I have always maintained that there is no advantage flat betting over progression betting.

Drawdowns can increase with progressions,but so can profits.

Take this simple example,

You bet 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1. You lose. You lost 20 units over 20 bets.

I bet, 1,1,2,3,5,8. I lose. I lost 20 units over 6 bets.

Your possible win gain was never more than 35 units. My possible win gain peaked at 268 units.

But we both lost this time.

In my opinion we both wagered and lost a flat bet of 20 units.

In the long run, any progression is simply a set of many different levels of flat bets.

So, if flat betting is long term negative, then progressions must be, too.

Since the underlying odds per decision never change, a large bet has just as much chance to lose as a small bet, so the actual amount of the bet doesnâ€™t matter in the long run; the wins and losses will all cancel out anyway.

i have a system that is based on dealer signature ( see chart) in the first half of spins it is apparently clear that the dealers weren't consistent, the situation changed dramatically in the second half of spins..

fact is, before you start tweaking any progression, you need to make sure that the bet selections is very solid! this can be verified by checking the performance of the system using flat bets!

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

#### Taotie

Quote from: poluvolo on Feb 22, 03:01 AM 2022
How many bets after each trigger?
what kind of progression?   +1,-1 for example?
Which of these different variations has the better results?
stoploss?

Bets continue non-stop. Keep betting the numbers only changing to new numbers with new triggers.

Win goals and stop losses are not my thing. People can learn the system if interested, then apply their own.

Having said that, soon I will post some played sessions from Rsim. I would use MPR but it's too f*cked up. Most but not all of the sessions I will end at around 100 units profit.

Only reason for this is time constraints. I don't get a lot of time to sit around playing for fun with fun money.

I will play and share sessions on Rsim when I can to show the system in action. I might even share the sessions before disclosing the progression and let people try work out what I'm doing. Could be fun.

#### Taotie

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Feb 22, 03:08 AM 2022In the long run, any progression is simply a set of many different levels of flat bets.

So, if flat betting is long term negative, then progressions must be, too.

Like many others, you are mistaken. But that's fine. Let's agree to disagree on the flat bet V progression debate. At least we agree that both flat bet & progression are simply a set of many different levels of flat bets.

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