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Started by MoneyT101, Apr 22, 05:13 PM 2022

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#### MoneyT101

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 23, 04:06 AM 2022
no...you can go for or against any amount of numbers...ie hit numbers or unhit numbers...it,ll do the same

This comment is a GEM

"you can go for or against any amount of numbers "
"it,ll do the same"

Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: Blueprint on Apr 23, 06:28 AM 2022
In the past you confidently claimed you win flat betting.  What was the problem it eventually ran into?

My logic was off and i didnt take other factors into account.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: huskerdu on Apr 22, 08:00 PM 2022
The only law that exists in the chaos of randomness is that in 37 spins there will be some.numbers that won't come out. It is a "goldmine" law, he only sure thing in randomness and I think there is more to exploit on this.. The well known to us law of the third says that the average of unique numbers in 37 spins is 24.  During the last months I'm dealing with this and the most unique numbers I've seen is 29. Anyway, I have read a lot of ways of playing trying to exploit this law. Which is the best way of playing taking advantage of it? ? My final thought was this: Since in 37 spins  the average of unique numbers is 24, if we just play the last 24 numbers flat betting continually should we have a small advantage?

The problem is theres to many numbers to choose from and to many spins still left to play.  So if you want to go this route you need to find something else to add that can give you less numbers but wont take away from the facts.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: winkel on Apr 23, 09:35 AM 2022
Why on earth the LotT? HasnÂ´t that been discussed enough?
LotT is a bitch. It takes your money and leaves you unsatisfied.

i almost fell of my chair laughing
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### MoneyT101

Ive tried working with others to create a method before and for some reason it never works out.  We can never focus on the same thing for to long or people arent 100% honest.  Ill say lets tackle this and they go a whole other direction.  So everyone has a different perspective of how they see something or understand something.  Its both a beauty and a curse

How do you guys create a system?

Do you just think this looks good, let me try it?  Or is there some kind of logic behind it?
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### MoneyT101

If i see a pattern, i want to know.....

What caused it?
What other possibility was possible?
Can i use this information?

hmmm it takes the fun away from the game really.  But i have fun discovering
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### winkel

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 23, 01:14 PM 2022
If i see a pattern, i want to know.....
You see the pattern.

What caused it?
There is no cause because there is no intention to create one

What other possibility was possible?
Everything else was also possible, even to stop or to stay in the pattern

Can i use this information?
Ofcourse! You can with it or against it.

hmmm it takes the fun away from the game really.  But i have fun discovering

A friend of mine watches people who follow patterns. If the crowd is betting against the pattern he is winning with an opposite bet.
Maybe there is a dealers influence to stop them winning.
There is always a game

#### MoneyT101

There are different ways to track patterns and every pattern isnt possible at every point in time.

No, just tracking basic patterns you cant identify this but if you get more detailed with it you can see it better.

a simple way for me to explain it and we can all understand is using spin numbers.

spin 1
spin 2
spin 3
spin 4
spin 5

123 is a pattern together
124 is a pattern together
125 is a pattern together

even thou they all have 12 in common... the last digit is different and creates a different pattern but once you have the result of 12 you cant change it.  so everything after that is guided by what happened already

But we can only go forward not back...so we cant say spin 1 or spin 2 again to get 121 or 122 patterns because it already happened and we can only go forward not back...  we can only go to spins 345

Youre friend tracks basic patterns and there are more ways to track patterns better with cause and effect
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### winkel

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 23, 04:19 PM 2022

But we can only go forward not back...so we cant say spin 1 or spin 2 again to get 121 or 122 patterns because it already happened and we can only go forward not back...  we can only go to spins 345

Youre friend tracks basic patterns and there are more ways to track patterns better with cause and effect
Look if you got spin 1 and 2
with plein there can be 37 different outcomes that follow
with street there are 12 outcomes + Zero
with doublestreet there are 6 outcomes +Zero
with doz col there are 3 outcomes +Zero
with EC there are 2 different outcomes + Zero

There are no cause and no  effect in probability. Once you understand this basic fact, you know about probability  and can beat it. (and you know how to create a strategy)
There is always a game

#### Blueprint

and cause/effect are not neighbors on a timeline.

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: winkel on Apr 23, 05:26 PM 2022
Look if you got spin 1 and 2
with plein there can be 37 different outcomes that follow
with street there are 12 outcomes + Zero
with doublestreet there are 6 outcomes +Zero
with doz col there are 3 outcomes +Zero
with EC there are 2 different outcomes + Zero

There are no cause and no  effect in probability. Once you understand this basic fact, you know about probability  and can beat it. (and you know how to create a strategy)

i lost you...

i wasnt talking about roulette numbers.  look at my example again.  i just used spin 1-5 to help you understand but look at it how i explained it and dont put roulette numbers to my example
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: Blueprint on Apr 23, 06:03 PM 2022
and cause/effect are not neighbors on a timeline.

i was just trying to make a simple illustration to help him understand that there are different patterns that can be used without getting to complicated.

your baseball team lineup xy is a perfect example of cause and effect
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### nottophammer

Quote from: winkel on Apr 23, 09:35 AM 2022
Why on earth the LotT? HasnÂ´t that been discussed enough?
LotT is a bitch. It takes your money and leaves you unsatisfied.
Winkel in your GUT topic you said as long as LOTT is present, then the stream or TROT is fine. Correct.
You know exactly what's going on in that stream; 24 of the starting 37 are MORE than likely going to appear.
If some tested streams of 60 spins; they can use Priyankas tester bottom of page 80 in KTF or even AYK testers.
You'd see over 40 spins you would again MORE often than not have 16 repeats. So, those 3 extra spins give 3 repeats.
So, 16 from 40, makes 24 of the staring 37 have hit at least once.

You can now watch the stream and bet for non-hits or repeats. ROULETTE-BLEATER IT'S NOT HARD. You Fcuking waste of space.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

#### TRD

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 23, 04:19 PM 2022But we can only go forward not back...so we cant say spin 1 or spin 2 again to get 121 or 122 patterns because it already happened and we can only go forward not back...  we can only go to spins 345

Yeah, but that ain't true for the wheel, innit? So what's the use ..

What exactly are you saying ?

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: TRD on Apr 25, 02:23 AM 2022
Yeah, but that ain't true for the wheel, innit? So what's the use ..

What exactly are you saying ?

Im still debating with myself if i want to share this info directly.  But i just noticed i did  ......

Quote from: Blueprint on Apr 23, 07:12 AM 2022
And to respond to 6th.

Here's a similar example.

Think of a baseball team lineup.

X as players on the team (of size 9 in the case of baseball)
Y will be the positions in the batting order (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.)

The "pairing" is given by which player is in what position in this order.
Each player is somewhere in the list.
No player bats in two (or more) positions in the order.
For each position in the order, there is some player batting in that position
Two or more players are never batting in the same position in the list.

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 23, 12:42 PM 2022
I created a system based on this logic using rrbb out the box.

You create both tables original set and derived set.  Then based on where the numbers are you play.  there are only 4 combinations to choose from

very interesting to see cause and effect
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

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