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Started by MoneyT101, Apr 22, 05:13 PM 2022

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#### 6th-sense

I do believe those pics I just posted shows a system if u look closely..
I'll see what u come up with and if it's along the same Lines

#### RayManZ

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 26, 01:20 PM 2022
pic of same numbers

One quick observation on those two pictures:

Look at the blue block. Means a cycle on the stream. Looks like if the blue block number is in the bottom 18 of the stream. The normal stream tends to close the cycle in the next spin on the first 18 number of the second stream.

#### MoneyT101

I thought about it.....Its to complicated for me to explain step by step using the baseball analogy.  I will just focus on my 4 combination using repeat/unique.  I can group things together and easier to present/understand.  Also if i create a new thread then i will have to follow through on explaining to much and i dont want to dedicate myself to that

Keep in mind its the same thing!  but i will focus more on where the numbers are within the 4 groups instead
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### MoneyT101

I will do the 2 spins with a little more info and you can look at the image below for a some more spins

Spin 1      5   5      NN      NN=1236      YN=5      NY=4      YY=n/a
Spin 2      1   2      NN      NN=236      YN=1      NY=4      YY=5

Spin 1 result is 5... 5 is in position 5 on the derived table
its the very first spin so both numbers are unique to us labeled NN.

Now 5 is sitting at position 1 for derived numbers after the first spin result.  So we cant get 55 as a result again not possible!

There are 3 possible combinations currently NN YN NY

If 5 repeats it  creates 51 and causes YN
If 4 comes out it creates 45 and causes NY
if 1236 comes out it creates 2346 and its NN on both sides
YY is not possible because there isnt any way to get both sides to have a repeat at this moment.

I highlighted in RED the first spin and NN because all numbers were starting off
I have the cycles highlighted on both lines and derived
U/R stands for Unique/Repeat...Y or N means yes repeat/no repeat
The 4 possible groups are NN NY YN YY... i highlighted in yellow the winning group for the next spin.

*This is separate.....I ran 200 spins just to give you an idea on the 4 combinations
NN   79
NY   50
YN   39
YY   32
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### Blueprint

Is this game really complex?  I feel we are making it way too complicated.

I always appreciate the ideas but all this is showing is the importance of uniques.

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: Blueprint on Apr 26, 08:03 PM 2022
Is this game really complex?  I feel we are making it way too complicated.

I always appreciate the ideas but all this is showing is the importance of uniques.

Just alot of data together but its not complicated at all really

Yes unique is important also if you can think about it this way...a unique number repeated by a unique number is a repeat of an event.  You dont necessarily have to win on a repeated number you can win on a repeated event.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### TRD

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 26, 08:09 PM 2022a unique number repeated by a unique number is a repeat of an event. You dont necessarily have to win on a repeated number you can win on a repeated event.

wouwou .. derived from the first sentence .. isn't this, the second sentence, one & the same thing!? .. not clear to me.

NNs are the most .. way more than a â..." -- but include to many ds to bet on
YY -.. you said these are the worst, so no focused on it
â†"
fact1: the group constituents update on every spin
fact2: both, NY & YN, are vacuumed out at points
â†"
fact3: (at least from the image derived) .. the sum of constituents in both, NY & YN, tend to span from 1-2, occasionaly 3
fact4: NY+YN facilitate 89/200 (hits/spins), or 0.445 hitrate (exceeding NN's, with less positions placed)
[5% better than NN at 79/200 (hits/spins), 0.395]
â†"
thereof, best seems to bet NY+YN both, as the gaps ain't that big, that a slight progression (vertical, or in risk flip to quads (=corner in my vocalbulary, priyanka's quads are -quarters) + divisor (first divisor, initiate recovery =2x hits to finish) would not overdo
+
when these two are N/A switch to YY, for cost-effective continuous betting

great, as of now!

â€¢  why don't you offer an insight into a 100-300 spin array of outcomes, to get to a better initial (max gap-size) conclusion
â€¢  & also, I'd be interested in seeing the same concept on the streets; potentially used as a deeper recovery level

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: TRD on Apr 26, 08:42 PM 2022
wouwou .. derived from the first sentence .. isn't this, the second sentence, one & the same thing!? .. not clear to me.

No its not the same thing.... The event repeating can be anything.  For example we have 4 events NN NY YN YY we can make cycles and play for the event and a bet on NN would only be unique numbers.

i basically said a unique number followed by a unique number is a repeat of an event

Quote from: TRD on Apr 26, 08:42 PM 2022

NNs are the most .. way more than a â..." -- but include to many ds to bet on
YY -.. you said these are the worst, so no focused on it
â†"
fact1: the group constituents update on every spin
fact2: both, NY & YN, are vacuumed out at points
â†"
fact3: (at least from the image derived) .. the sum of constituents in both, NY & YN, tend to span from 1-2, occasionaly 3
fact4: NY+YN facilitate 89/200 (hits/spins), or 0.445 hitrate (exceeding NN's, with less positions placed)
[5% better than NN at 79/200 (hits/spins), 0.395]
â†"
thereof, best seems to bet NY+YN both, as the gaps ain't that big, that a slight progression (vertical, or in risk flip to quads (=corner in my vocalbulary, priyanka's quads are -quarters) + divisor (first divisor, initiate recovery =2x hits to finish) would not overdo
+
when these two are N/A switch to YY, for cost-effective continuous betting

great, as of now!

â€¢  why don't you offer an insight into a 100-300 spin array of outcomes, to get to a better initial (max gap-size) conclusion
â€¢  & also, I'd be interested in seeing the same concept on the streets; potentially used as a deeper recovery level

its easy to do just take Priyanka cycles and use the NY portion  for both regular and Derived.

I did 1000 spins on Double street
NN   411
NY   229
YN   232
YY   128

Streets is a whole other monster.  its easy to do but after a quick look i couldnt find anything that stuck out so i dropped it.  i did think of combining both info to help me but never looked into it.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### Blueprint

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 26, 12:00 PM 2022
visualisation explains it better ....blueprint you know what money is talking about are you yanking his chain?

I wasn't yanking his chain, as you say.  The problem with most of this is ambiguous terms.  We all make different meanings.
Take the word "combine"... what that means to Mel may be very different from what it means to you.

That's been the solution everyone is looking for for years now.  How many different ways can things be combined?

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: Blueprint on Apr 27, 07:18 AM 2022
That's been the solution everyone is looking for for years now.  How many different ways can things be combined?
i agree 100000000%
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### winkel

Quote from: Blueprint on Apr 27, 07:18 AM 2022
That's been the solution everyone is looking for for years now.  How many different ways can things be combined?

These informations ar available since years. As I see nobody noticed nor understood.
There is always a game

#### Blueprint

Quote from: winkel on Apr 27, 11:32 AM 2022
These informations ar available since years. As I see nobody noticed nor understood.

Do tell.  No one needs more riddles to solve.

#### winkel

Quote from: Blueprint on Apr 27, 12:17 PM 2022
Do tell.  No one needs more riddles to solve.

Just to name two:

GUT - Great Universal Theory
and
van der Waerden VdW
There is always a game

#### nottophammer

Quote from: winkel on Apr 27, 01:00 PM 2022GUT - Great Universal Theory
Yes members like the General or Dr Sir anyone plus roulette-bleater just never get it.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

#### Blueprint

Quote from: winkel on Apr 27, 01:00 PM 2022
Just to name two:

GUT - Great Universal Theory
and
van der Waerden VdW

GUT, VdW, Erdos, etc are great but not what I'm referring to.

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