what is the perfect system

[darrynf]

i was going to ask what is the perfect system, there isnt one.

for me my system is the perfect one, i know how it works and what to expect.

i wouldnt use any system on this forum or any other forum cause they wont work, my system won 14 sessions out of 15, thats pretty damn good.

but its a little random and you need to know what to look for.

its not a hard system but very hard to teach it as it really has no rules, its all govern by thinking and it changes, not so much the system but little things.

anyway apart from my system, i dont think anything is perfect for me.

[VLS]

Welcome to the forum Darryn,

The perfect system is that which makes more money than it loses.

Notice I do not say "the one which never loses" (oh boy, that would be... perfect!).

Given we assume that reality, there are for sure some parameters in the "path of perfection" for a system:

- The session bankroll must be realistic.

Methods which use an astronomical session bankroll, ideally faring the best with a virtually unlimited bank should be discarded.

- As per the above, the drawdowns should be surmountable.

I have seen methods labelled as winners with 5-figure numbers as drawdowns (yes, like 25,000 or 50,000+ units down before recouping). Those methods may sound good on paper, but are unplayable in real life.

- The length of the session should be humanly playable.

I remember a fellow player who said: "your goal should be to live FROM the casino, not to live IN the casino".

I don't think many people is willing to spend the whole day at the casino.

Even a bot is better to use shorter sessions, which allow for frequent human evaluation of software conditions rather than supremely long sessions which are more prone to connection/casino/memory errors.

- The won-to-lost session ratio needs to be rationale.

Ideally, 1 to 1 being the break-even point; a better ratio even better.

Also, nobody would use a "winning system" which takes 100+ winning sessions to recoup a single loss.

- Preferably the base bet should be a flat bet.

The most perfect system is getting the flat betting positive edge over the game.

- Should be able to compound profits inter-session.

This may sound like a paradox after the flat-bet point above, but in reality it's not.

While the flat bet can be seen as the motor which puts the engine in march, you want to increase your base unit over time to really be able to maximize positive runs and decrease it situationally to minimize the impact of negative runs.

If you are using a progression up to table maximum as your base bet, you will not be able to compound your unit as winning sessions stack, which in turn negates the possibility to win more when winning steadily and losing less on concatenated -or close- losses.



Thanks again for being around.

Your friend,
Victor

[darrynf]

cheers for that victor,

my bankroll is $100 so thats realistic.

if i get a draw down which was once, i would say game over lol no more money.

my sessions take about an hour, 60 spins and i also played it live and rng.

both profited.

well its a 50/50 in the loss and win ratio so i guess thats 1 win to 2-3 loses to break even (depending on how many numbers im covering).

mine is flat betting for about 2 or 3 times then i use a progression to get my money back, but you realy dont see wins far from a loss so it makes the progression safe to use and not a big progression either. 

so yeah it makes profit at the end of the session and has only ever loss once and on average it makes 140% of the bankroll.

so i agree with what you say victor.

[GLC]

I was going to ask what is the perfect system, there isnt one.

for me my system is the perfect one, I know how it works and what to expect.

i wouldnt use any system on this forum or any other forum cause they wont work, my system won 14 sessions out of 15, that's pretty darn good.

but its a little random and you need to know what to look for.

its not a hard system but very hard to teach it as it really has no rules, its all govern by thinking and it changes, not so much the system but little things.

anyway apart from my system, I don't think anything is perfect for me.

I feel that I must caution you that 14 wins out of 15 sessions makes your system at least a possible long term winner.  But, 15 hours at the table is such a short time that anything can happen.  I've put in way more than that playing a 7 step limited martingale on the even chances and am killing them.  I know that it is luck and even though I have published the system on this forum, I also caution that it is not a system you can expect to win like I have.

Be wary with your system also.

Have you considered sharing it with the rest of the forum.  We can help test it.  Maybe for 100's of hours worth of results.  If it has an Achilles heel, we'll find it and maybe save you a rude awakening one day.  If it's sound, you can continue to win with confidence.  Plus, you will help us out also.

Like others have said, this is a sharing community.

Regards,

George

[reincarnation]

Now that we know "what" a perfect system looks like, do we also get to know "how" the system works? Or is it strictly confidential?

[winkel]

my sessions take about an hour, 60 spins and I also played it live and rng.

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well its a 50/50 in the loss and win ratio so I guess that's 1 win to 2-3 loses to break even (depending on how many numbers I'm covering).

mine is flat betting for about 2 or 3 times then I use a progression to get my money back, but you realy don't see wins far from a loss so it makes the progression safe to use and not a big progression either. 

so yeah it makes profit at the end of the session and has only ever loss once and on average it makes 140% of the bankroll.

so I agree with what you say Victor.

This shows that you donÃ,´t have any knowledge of Roulette.

60 Spins in one hour? I have never seen this in a BM-Casino

a 50/50 win/loss ratio and 14 wins of 15 sessions is a new math-experience

If you need to use a progression it is absolutely not safe. otherwise you could bet flatbets.

140% win of bankroll in a session: everybody knows that the win-ratio is related to the amount of the bet-sum

[darrynf]

i guess i deserve that winkel.

ill explain alittle better:

i have never been in a real casino, i have bet online, rng and live wheels. so i can easily do 60 spins in and hour.

remember i said sessions not spins, its a 50/50 on average with my wins and losses but i use a light progression to boost my percentage up 90%+, also dependent on the numbers im covering but thats why i always have a profit after a session (except one).

my system uses both flat bets and progression, it makes it far better as the progression is very light.if im covering 18 numbers then its flat betting but this dosent happen to much, its alittle depentent in whats happening with the pattern.

again on average my win is 140% of bank roll in a session. you have to think with my system, its a little random but at the same time its not.

its all inside bets and it is a new system i came up with a couple of months ago so i dont explain it in forums as it has no rules and i gues you could say its like flipping a coin, i have told 2 people not on here but they dont get it.

you need to know roulette pretty well to understand it

[darrynf]

sorry winkel i may have come on a little thick last night.

herd you were well respected around here so i wont be rude anymore, sorry about that mate.
to use to the other forum.

[darrynf]

i never brought this thread up to tell you about my system, just that for me this is the best system, i have played a few but they tend to fall on there ass.

so sorry every body if you thought i was going to tell you.

im not going to tell my system cause its hard to manage, i like it cause it suits my style of play.

what i will say is its based on new numbers and repeating numbers from 30 spins and always changing the numbers in that 30 spins, if enough understand what im saying then i may say more but this is the main trick to it and a pattern to see which is hitting the most and least.

[chrisbis]

This shows that you donÃ,´t have any knowledge of Roulette.

60 Spins in one hour? I have never seen this in a BM-Casino

a 50/50 win/loss ratio and 14 wins of 15 sessions is a new math-experience

If you need to use a progression it is absolutely not safe. otherwise you could bet flatbets.

140% win of bankroll in a session: everybody knows that the win-ratio is related to the amount of the bet-sum

With the greatest of respect Br Winkel, I think HIS posting shows that he HAS got the knowledge HE requires to win enough at Roulette.

He may or may-not have the "Perfect" system, but from HIS standpoint, at this moment in time- it must look pretty perfect indeed.

In all seriousness, till we see Darrynf's bet, chip placement, timing, bet location, progression status, length of draw-downs, and the payout on the bet, -"WHEN IT WINS", then really we're all in the blind here.

Proof in the Pudding as the old adage goes. 

So, I think it wise for us all to await the Topic moderators explanation, of HIS perfect bet.

I pass the baton to U Darry......................................

[chrisbis]

i never brought this thread up to tell you about my system, just that for me this is the best system, i have played a few but they tend to fall on there ass.

so sorry every body if you thought i was going to tell you.

im not going to tell my system cause its hard to manage, i like it cause it suits my style of play.

what i will say is its based on new numbers and repeating numbers from 30 spins and always changing the numbers in that 30 spins, if enough understand what im saying then i may say more but this is the main trick to it and a pattern to see which is hitting the most and least.

U should try Us Darry........................... "hard to manage", is this forum's middle name!!

If not then U could be rightly accused of gloating, and I'm sure U wouldn't want that!

[darrynf]

Now that we know "what" a perfect system looks like, do we also get to know "how" the system works? Or is it strictly confidential?

i never said it was perfect for anyone, just me mate.
i know the pros and cons and how to deal with a bad session or a slow session, there are other factors to think about like how many numbers am i covering, so i take this many losses before i need to use a progression, how far apart the losses are from the wins, which pattern is more dominant, things like that.

people want a system that has rules so if they lose they can blame the system or method, mine has no rules, just a lot of thinking and i guess common sence, i dont think people will like my system as it can losse often. so i dont want people to lose there money and blame me. for me it works well cause i design it, i had no help so im proud of it and what i have achieved but it dosent mean everyone else will have the same results.

i guess some people will make it work and some wont, lots of tracking though

[chrisbis]

i never said it was perfect for anyone, just me mate..................
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i guess some people will make it work and some wont, lots of tracking though

Really try to share it buddie.

U could spark great thinking, side variations, and soooo much discussion.

(Just look what came from the Matrix posting, and THAT, started on another forum altogether!!)

U never know..............................

[winkel]

Hi crisbis,

br = best regards; not part of my name

this guy picked up two of my threads last night just to tell me it is all rubbish Iwrote.

IÃ,´m allergic against new members telling everything is rubbish but their own system, but they wonÃ,´t explain because ........ (put in all the usual stuff they claim)

And then he comes up with "watching 30 numbers and then betting sleepers or favorites."

That doesnÃ,´t even make me laugh, it just makes me use the "Ignore-Button"

br
winkel

[darrynf]

cheers for that crisbis.