*PATTERN 4*

[kenio]

Here is a test session with rng:

Playing against QUADS not  to become 5-POINTERS @ flatbetting

H   H   L   H
H   L   H   L
L   H   H   L
L   H   L   L
H   L   L   L
L   L   H   H-----+1 (col4)  +1
L   H   L   H
L   H   H   L
L   L   L   L
L   L   L   L---- -1 (col1)    +0
L   L   L   H
H   H   H   H
H   H   L   H
L   H   H   H
L   H   L   L---- +1 (col4)   +1
H   L   H   H---- +1 (col2)   +2
H   H   L   H
H   H   L   L
H   L   L   H
H   H   H   H---- -1 (col1)    +1
L   H   L   H
L   L   L   L
L   L   H   L
L   H   L   H
L   L   L   L ----- -1 (col1)   +0

3won
3lost

100 spins = +0

A.

Why not to use Pattern 4 as a 4 vertical matrix?

[atlantis]

Hi Kenio,

That's also quite an interesting idea. Bet that the 4th line will not be a repeat of the 1st line

H   H   L   H
H   L   H   L
L   H   H   L
L   H   L   L ---won@1st bet (col1)

A.

[kenio]

Hi Kenio,

That's also quite an interesting idea.  Bet that the 4th line will not be a repeat of the 1st line

H   H   L   H
H   L   H   L
L   H   H   L
L   H   L   L ---won@1st bet (col1)

A.

You can use progression 1-3-7-15 risking 26 units.

[Proofreaders2000]

H   H   L   H
H   L   H   L
L   H   H   L
L   H   L   L ---won@1st bet (col1)

I like that idea too Kenio.  PatternMatrix  

[kenio]

You can use it as the paterrn 4 will be different than pattern 1 or it will be the same.

[ZigZag]

Hi Atlantis, well heres what's on my mind. BETTING AGAINST H AN L TRIPS BECOMING FIVE POINTERS.

Hi John. Now I know you like the H/L as I do and from my short test its been working sweet. I also suggest you have a look at Kattilas matrix 9 for the ECs also, but maybe against quads  

[jon86]

Hi John. Now I know you like the H/L as I do and from my short test its been working sweet. I also suggest you have a look at Kattilas matrix 9 for the ECs also, but maybe against quads  

Hi ZigZag.

I didnt find matrix from kattilla

Cheers

Jon

[ZigZag]

Hi Jon

I only just found it myself today. Its in the notepad section.

I havent started testing yet, but looks really interesting. 

[jon86]

Hi Jon

I only just found it myself today. Its in the notepad section.

I haven't started testing yet, but looks really interesting. 

Thanks. I will check it out

Cheers

Jon

[XXVV]

Just to be thorough I tested 102 additional games which involved the 3 x EC's on the Pattern4 method.

After this work on P4 I will not be going any further with it or variations of it because it really has no satisfactory reason to consistently win.

It does win from time to time, with some streaks but my research has thrown up so many potential traps that I would advise no further work on what had appeared to be a very attractive idea. However that is why we test so we dont throw away resources playing live. The idea of continuing with progressions is courting disaster because I have seen double and triple losses in the high volume of live data Ive been through, whether on same EC or across several EC sequences.

Data was from live Dublin Bet sequences always spaced a day apart.

Using the 1,3,7 series the end result was -51 units and 18 total losses were experienced.

Again I emphasise roulette is notorious for cycles within cycles and thus I cannot state long streaks dont happen but in the data I have sampled they just were not there.

Out of curiosity I tested also on a total of 200 games, flat staking and at one stage after 1000 spins (!) was +20 units but this later re-traced and ended overall -5 units in some 2500 spins. This is not a big loss but neither did it produce worthwhile consistent wins, because earlier gains were cancelled out.

I personally have found the method too volatile and inconsistent.

Nevertheless a shrewd player could pick up a few points here and there and then get out ( say +3 to +5) , but I think there are better and safer ways to do this.

For example the Pattern Breaker family is different because there is a significant reason why it would tend to work ( note tendency not certainty).

So will continue on that earlier PB thread and suggest some extra ways to tap the profit potential energy there. Of course it takes longer to monitor but 3 EC's can be phased at say 20 spin intervals and you can rotate earnings and derive extra from the ongoing tendency for the missing eighth pattern to fully manifest, step by step.

Care should be taken to fully test this one as well because volume of results takes so much longer to materialise on PB but we can be guided here by JL having used this for three years prior to publishing, and for which I am very grateful for his data and his sharing of a proven method.

Many can doodle with hourly little variations/ bright ideas but the hard graft is to prove it works before making claims that can mislead.

Hope to add a worthwhile extra method to PB which can consistently triple the result from the usual win returns. This requires only a further dozen spins, but I have to test it much more first. Will discuss it next week on PB.

[atlantis]

Hi XXVV,

Thanks for your findings - much appreciated.

A.

[Johnlegend]

Just to be thorough I tested 102 additional games which involved the 3 x EC's on the Pattern4 method.

After this work on P4 I will not be going any further with it or variations of it because it really has no satisfactory reason to consistently win.

It does win from time to time, with some streaks but my research has thrown up so many potential traps that I would advise no further work on what had appeared to be a very attractive idea. However that is why we test so we don't throw away resources playing live. The idea of continuing with progressions is courting disaster because I have seen double and triple losses in the high volume of live data I've been through, whether on same EC or across several EC sequences.

Data was from live Dublin Bet sequences always spaced a day apart.

Using the 1,3,7 series the end result was -51 units and 18 total losses were experienced.

Again I emphasise roulette is notorious for cycles within cycles and thus I cannot state long streaks don't happen but in the data I have sampled they just were not there.

Out of curiosity I tested also on a total of 200 games, flat staking and at one stage after 1000 spins (!) was +20 units but this later re-traced and ended overall -5 units in some 2500 spins. This is not a big loss but neither did it produce worthwhile consistent wins, because earlier gains were cancelled out.

I personally have found the method too volatile and inconsistent.

Nevertheless a shrewd player could pick up a few points here and there and then get out ( say +3 to +5) , but I think there are better and safer ways to do this.

For example the Pattern Breaker family is different because there is a significant reason why it would tend to work ( note tendency not certainty).

So will continue on that earlier PB thread and suggest some extra ways to tap the profit potential energy there. Of course it takes longer to monitor but 3 EC's can be phased at say 20 spin intervals and you can rotate earnings and derive extra from the ongoing tendency for the missing eighth pattern to fully manifest, step by step.

Care should be taken to fully test this one as well because volume of results takes so much longer to materialise on PB but we can be guided here by JL having used this for three years prior to publishing, and for which I am very grateful for his data and his sharing of a proven method.

Many can doodle with hourly little variations/ bright ideas but the hard graft is to prove it works before making claims that can mislead.

Hope to add a worthwhile extra method to PB which can consistently triple the result from the usual win returns. This requires only a further dozen spins, but I have to test it much more first. Will discuss it next week on PB.

XXVV im not sure how you test data. But your results dont mirror my findings. Its strange everytime a method is tested at dublin net or that German site. The results are not good.

I collected my results from bookie based casinos and some from real land casinos. So you arrive at the conclusion P4 has no value. YET, having played 60 games over the last two days, I have a record of 58/2.

And a winning streak in there of 34 straight wins. 

[soggett]

You guys gave me an idea...

Ok, first my stats so far with PB4 on BV NZ, all 3 EC

TOTAL GAMES: 36

                                      H/L                    B/R                  O/E
WIN                                32                     29                    31
LOST                                3                       7                      5
LOST 2 IN ROW                1                       0                      0

WIN ON 1 STEP                 19                     18                    23
WIN ON 2 STEP                 10                       6                     5
WIN ON 3 STEP                   3                       5                     3

TOTAL: + 71 units

108 bets - 92 wins - 16 loses - thats about 7/1

I used 1 2 4 and recover 8 16 32

When I lost 2 in a row (16th game) i started after each loss to bet 4 times 8 16 32 to recover the 2 losses in a row and it worked like a charm


Now, i tryed going over the numbers with PB4 with 4 numbers/bets ( example: HHHH/RRRR/OOOO - don't know how to say it,sorry for bad english) and bet on 13,14,15,16 spin. So the first 4 spins not to be equal to fourth 4 spins.

The result:
Only 1 lose in that 36 games and 6 possible losses - on that six times I have recorded only last tree numbers unfortunatelly 
But even so, if they all lost that woul be only 7 losses. Isn't that a great win/loss ratio?

36 games - 108 bets - 7 losses - thats about 15/1

what do you guys think?

And that was on BV NZ RNG, imagine that on a live wheel where the results are even more briliant...

What do you think?

Could you check it with your numbers guys and see the stats?

[soggett]

Sorry, just saw that atlantis explained it better

The Pattern Matrix

How are your results Atlantis

[vundarosa]

Sorry, just saw that atlantis explained it better

The Pattern Matrix

How are your results Atlantis

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@John, this seems to be really incredible....best of both worlds.

vundarosa