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A complete street within 12

Started by MrJ, Apr 23, 03:20 PM 2011

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GLC

Quote from: ego on Nov 30, 02:06 AM 2011
I wondering and assume there is no difference using table or wheel layout based upon the principal above.
But for me i wondering if same idea would be the same using wheel layout.

26 0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14 31

Would it not be better to make it sector based using neighbors then just assume numbers all over the wheel order would hit ...

Ego, Check out reply #33.  That's exactly what I was doing.  Well, maybe not exactly. It works fine on my airball machine.  I do think there's a tendency for the ball to land in  the general area as the last spin more than random would allow.  Nevertheless, I think with a live dealer it should work as well. 

RNG?  I don't see how when playing RNG there's any relationship between numbers on the carpet or on the wheel.

GLC

P.S.  When I tried this I just started with the first three numbers to the right of 0 ad a sector.  To speed things along, you could select any three numbers that we neighbors like you said.  Take the numbers 30-11-7.  These are a sector I'm using but this is a better way to play it.  Let's take 9-26-30-11-7-20-32.  Six numbers to the right of zero is my 2nd sector but there's no reason why if I saw 20 and 11 I couldn't start betting for 7 since that's 3 neighbors.  Or if I get 20 and 7, I could bet on 32 or 11 or both.  This gives more betting opportunities and I don't see how it harms our chances for a win.

If you are going to play this way, it is imperative, I think, that you have the double zero wheel thoroughly memorized so you can spot betting opportunities without having to write everything down.  If you're sitting at an airball machine like I do, it's easy to keep track of what you're doing as long as you stay focused and don't get distracted interacting with other players.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

ego

Quote from: GLC on Nov 30, 09:13 AM 2011
Ego, Check out reply #33.  That's exactly what I was doing.  Well, maybe not exactly. It works fine on my airball machine.  I do think there's a tendency for the ball to land in  the general area as the last spin more than random would allow.  Nevertheless, I think with a live dealer it should work as well. 

RNG?  I don't see how when playing RNG there's any relationship between numbers on the carpet or on the wheel.

GLC

P.S.  When I tried this I just started with the first three numbers to the right of 0 ad a sector.  To speed things along, you could select any three numbers that we neighbors like you said.  Take the numbers 30-11-7.  These are a sector I'm using but this is a better way to play it.  Let's take 9-26-30-11-7-20-32.  Six numbers to the right of zero is my 2nd sector but there's no reason why if I saw 20 and 11 I couldn't start betting for 7 since that's 3 neighbors.  Or if I get 20 and 7, I could bet on 32 or 11 or both.  This gives more betting opportunities and I don't see how it harms our chances for a win.

If you are going to play this way, it is imperative, I think, that you have the double zero wheel thoroughly memorized so you can spot betting opportunities without having to write everything down.  If you're sitting at an airball machine like I do, it's easy to keep track of what you're doing as long as you stay focused and don't get distracted interacting with other players.

Thanks for a nice reply ...
I assume it would be fun to test on my singel zero wheel at home ...

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Robeenhuut

Quote from: GLC on Nov 30, 09:13 AM 2011
Ego, Check out reply #33.  That's exactly what I was doing.  Well, maybe not exactly. It works fine on my airball machine.  I do think there's a tendency for the ball to land in  the general area as the last spin more than random would allow.  Nevertheless, I think with a live dealer it should work as well. 

RNG?  I don't see how when playing RNG there's any relationship between numbers on the carpet or on the wheel.

GLC

Hello 

Proofreaders posted this system in other section and i tested it on about 3000 live spins from Smartlive casino flat betting only. I dont remember exact numbers but overall it did not work.  I play mostly airball. Maybe on it results would be better.

Regards


P.S.  When I tried this I just started with the first three numbers to the right of 0 ad a sector.  To speed things along, you could select any three numbers that we neighbors like you said.  Take the numbers 30-11-7.  These are a sector I'm using but this is a better way to play it.  Let's take 9-26-30-11-7-20-32.  Six numbers to the right of zero is my 2nd sector but there's no reason why if I saw 20 and 11 I couldn't start betting for 7 since that's 3 neighbors.  Or if I get 20 and 7, I could bet on 32 or 11 or both.  This gives more betting opportunities and I don't see how it harms our chances for a win.

If you are going to play this way, it is imperative, I think, that you have the double zero wheel thoroughly memorized so you can spot betting opportunities without having to write everything down.  If you're sitting at an airball machine like I do, it's easy to keep track of what you're doing as long as you stay focused and don't get distracted interacting with other players.
Matt

Robeenhuut

Hello 

Proofreaders posted this system in other section and i tested it on about 3000 live spins from Smartlive casino flat betting only. I don't remember exact numbers but overall it did not work.  I play mostly airball. Maybe on it results would be better.

Regards

Sorry for the last post.
Matt

Proofreaders2000

Exactly what did I post that did not work? (I post a lot of things)  :)

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 02, 07:48 AM 2011
Exactly what did I post that did not work? (I post a lot of things)  :)

Hello

Betting for 10 spins 2 complete a street. Flat bet only.

Regards

Matt

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Dec 02, 08:42 AM 2011
Hello

Betting for 10 spins 2 complete a street. Flat bet only.

Regards

Hello

Thomas One street repeater system. In most 185 live spins sessions at Smartlive you were down. Sometimes 4 or 5 lost sequences in a row. Flat betting as you suggested. I played few similar street related systems and in the best case scenario you had pretty good run for a while and you got wiped out.  Most of them tank pretty quickly.

Regards

Matt

Proofreaders2000

There is also a stop-loss instruction on the system. -20% of the original bankroll end session.  Did you follow? (a new session=20+ spin wait before tracking again)

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Dec 03, 01:01 AM 2011
There is also a stop-loss instruction on the system. -20% of the original bankroll end session.  Did you follow? (a new session=20+ spin wait before tracking again)

Hello Proofs

I tested it on about 3000 live wheel spins from Smartlive. Each session consists of 185 spins. I played each session continuously . Most of them ended in a negative territory  and i dont see how putting stop loss on it or waiting number of spins could change things. This thing just does not hit often enough. I lost few times 4 or 5 times in a row.I guess that you can ride a positive streak on this but in the long run you will lose.
After all maybe putting a progression on it would change the outcome.

Regards




Matt

harrican

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Dec 02, 09:03 AM 2011
Hello

Thomas One street repeater system. In most 185 live spins sessions at Smartlive you were down. Sometimes 4 or 5 lost sequences in a row. Flat betting as you suggested. I played few similar street related systems and in the best case scenario you had pretty good run for a while and you got wiped out.  Most of them tank pretty quickly.

Regards


Hi, Thomas one street repeater system and this method is not exactly the same. Thomas's bets 3 numbers per spin. This one bets only 1 to 4 numbers per spin, depending on which of the streets is missing a piece.


on a side note, does anyone knows how to make a excel tracker for this system :)?

Robeenhuut

Quote from: harrican on Dec 04, 08:54 PM 2011

Hi, Thomas one street repeater system and this method is not exactly the same. Thomas's bets 3 numbers per spin. This one bets only 1 to 4 numbers per spin, depending on which of the streets is missing a piece.


on a side note, does anyone knows how to make a excel tracker for this system :) ?

So you suggest betting all the streets with one missing number?  i dont think you can be successful with betting more than one street. You will be wiped out sooner.
If it does not deliver with betting just on one street for 10 spins i dont see that it can deliver with more streets.  I have not tested it though. 

Regards
Matt

harrican

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Dec 05, 01:18 AM 2011
So you suggest betting all the streets with one missing number?  i don't think you can be successful with betting more than one street. You will be wiped out sooner.
If it does not deliver with betting just on one street for 10 spins i don't see that it can deliver with more streets.  I have not tested it though. 

Regards


Hi :) Nope, I'm simply saying that they are 2 different systems. The only thing thats almost similar about both systems is the Bet Trigger. Mr J's one is trying to win 35 units with 12 units, Thomas's one is trying to win 11 units with 10 units.. they are very different creatures :)


Anyways, I just started testing Mr J's one.. still trying to make my excel sheet work to track..


Peace :) and Good Fortune to All :)

topcat888

MrJ,

First let me say I have the greatest respect for your systems, experience & philosophy ~ Thanks for sharing.

But I'm unsure why this is such a great system, I can't see it..?

To your exact flat bet rules;

Run against 1402 consecutive spins from Dublinbet/Table1

Run against 2026 consecutive spins from Dublinbet/Table1

I must have missed something ~ I've attached run 317, perhaps you can cross check me..?


MrJ

@topcat888 >> Wow, I didn't know this was 4 pages. A couple points.

This was the first sentence of mine BACK ON April 23rd >>> "I think its a GREAT idea but not all 'rules' have been thought out yet, that's why its in this section". I have since been playing a bit differently, I'm GUILTY of not re-posting, bad habit of mine.  :(

NOW, I only play one number regardless of how many opportunities there are on the history board. Which number? The one that is the latest that just became available. Lets say the 10 & 11 are on the history board, we of course would be betting on the 12 UNTIL.......lets also say the 2 is on the board. The next hit number is the 1.
I then SWITCH my one number bet to the 3 etc. As each NEW situation comes up, I then switch.

I only need one hit every 36 spins to stay in the game (break even). There are times you'll be betting on the same number for 8 spins. Other times, you might switch your bet 4 times in a row. Its also POSSIBLE to be betting on a number even though one of the other numbers has dropped off the history board, stick with that number until a new bet arises, it won't take long!

Meaning, maybe you were betting on that 3 and way down on the bottom, the 2 drops off. No issue, keep betting the 3. Again, I apologize for NOT re-posting. This 'newer' version may help you, or it may not. Good luck!!

Ken


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topcat888

Cheers MrJ..!

I'll give that a go... it's very difficult to find a flat better that will hold up...

Anyway, onwards & upwards.!   :thumbsup:

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