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Drazen

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Hello Fripper

Yes please, do the tests an let me know all about it.

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Quote from: Fripper link=topic=4960. msg49598#msg49598 date=1303848719
Hi Drazen

Thanks for sharing your system.

This seems very interesting and have some logic behind it, I will report back with some results or some questions :)

Oh yes one little thing i forgot to tell you.  Fripper reminded me just :) It is about progression.  As an example i took the longest posiblle progresion but i forgot to tell you about her beauty :).  With longest progression you have 3/3 of the progression of course, and by the theory for all of that we need just 2/3, right? So 1/3 of the maximum (longest posible) progression we dont need in fact.  And that means that we can recalculate it to fit in 2/3.  More money. . .   1/3 always ahead roulette

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But guys one more thing. . .  I just wonder if this  idea is so great, as it first seems, how powerful system can be created based on this? Because all numbers in all parts of the roulette acts like this in theory.  I used sleepers, but is possible to use repeaters or the ones which hit only 1 time in 37 spins.  They should all act by this law in my theory, right? And what if we could combine all 3 of them? And play with them at the same time. . .  That would be very complicated system, quite hard to track, but very very powerfull, like atomic bomb :) haha just a thought. . .

Any way, plenty of tests still should be done before any conclusions. . .

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Hi Drazen,

Welcome to the forum. I like your logic regarding your system. You know, it always amazes me when I here people say they don't like to track numbers or wait.

Before you can get to the "GOLD" you must first dig for it. In other words, you have to do a little work to get the payoff. Even when they have a history board to give them part of the numbers, they will complain because they have to track numbers. Its ridiculous thinking but hey! What are ya' gonna do?

If someone played your system once a day with the right sized units, they would win more than what they make at their jobs so I don't understand what people are complaining about having to track numbers.

I would like to see a lot of testing from people on this thread. I believe this is one of the better systems I have seen here. This is a way of looking at Law of the Third in a New way. In the past, the Law of the Third has not been very easy to nail down and make work on a consistant manner but I think this modis operendi has some real merit.

Come on guys...lets give Drazen some help on this.

Scooby Doo

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Hi Drazen,

I think it would be a good idea to tell or help everyone how you came up with the progressions or maybe you have a place where you got them.

Without these, the members won't take part in the testing I'm sure.

Scooby Doo

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Hi,

After a number is hit from a dozen, do you remove that number and bet the remaining numbers or you continue betting all the initial sleepers?

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DC,
   Since you are expecting 2/3rds of your sleepers to hit in the next 37 spins shouldn't your progression be calculated to last for 37 spins?  Thanks for posting this interesting system!

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Have U tried testing this idea at Bet Voyager yet?

Its a very different type of RNG, with good consistent numbers.

Try it.

U may be surprised!  ;)

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hello drazen and many thanks for sharing your method with the forum.

with regards to your progression, i suppose on some occasions you will have 3 different progressions going along, side by side.
for example, if you had say 12 numbers as sleepers from your first 37 spins, you could be betting with a progression for 2 numbers, 6 numbers and 4 numbers.
couldn't you take 2 of the numbers from the 6 and join them in with the 2 and so then you have 3 progressions all the same, ie for 4 numbers?
it wouldn't always work out the same obviously, but you could always work it out so that you only had 2 different progressions running at most.
if we had 14 sleepers we could have 2 x4 number progression and a 6.
just my random thoughts, trying to add something to this already excellent idea. probably you've already thought about this, or maybe it's not workable.

thanks again for sharing,

cheers.
in faecorum semper solum profundum variat

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Quote from: ScoobyDoo link=topic=4960. msg49621#msg49621 date=1303862818
Hi Drazen,

Welcome to the forum.  I like your logic regarding your system.  You know, it always amazes me when I here people say they don't like to track numbers or wait.

Before you can get to the "GOLD" you must first dig for it.  In other words, you have to do a little work to get the payoff.  Even when they have a history board to give them part of the numbers, they will complain because they have to track numbers.  Its ridiculous thinking but hey! What are ya' gonna do?

If someone played your system once a day with the right sized units, they would win more than what they make at their jobs so I don't understand what people are complaining about having to track numbers.

I would like to see a lot of testing from people on this thread.  I believe this is one of the better systems I have seen here.  This is a way of looking at Law of the Third in a New way.  In the past, the Law of the Third has not been very easy to nail down and make work on a consistant manner but I think this modis operendi has some real merit.

Come on guys. . . lets give Drazen some help on this.

Scooby Doo

Thank you Scooby Doo for helping me.  Yes i told, i have never seen that someone is using The law of the third at this way.  And when i came up to that idea, at first i couldnt belive that this realy works, because in hundreths of tested systems and methods, i havent seen anything similar to this.

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Hi,

After a number is hit from a dozen, do you remove that number and bet the remaining numbers or you continue betting all the initial sleepers?

I play on initial  sleepers all the time.

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Drazen

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DC,
   Since you are expecting 2/3rds of your sleepers to hit in the next 37 spins shouldn't your progression be calculated to last for 37 spins?  Thanks for posting this interesting system!

Well, no. In my first post i described how we can know when to expect first latest hit. When we have more numbers to hit,max progression has less steps but frequency of hitting is thicker.

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I play on initial  sleepers all the time.

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              Drazen


Hi and welcome  :)

One question from me, why do you continue to bet the initial sleeper after its hit ?


Thanx for sharing your thoughts and ideas  :thumbsup:

Its Set In Stone =)

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Ok my friends, couple of thoughts now... I have to tell you this, this is completely diferent way of consideration on roulette....I know someone of you will maybe mock me on this, or maybe say that i am weirdie. But before that, try to understand what am i saying. Please.

On al this forums, roulette is considered as enemy. Ok. Most of us has some enemys and we want to destroy them on some kind of way... Nature of roulette is very powerful thing. But roulette in his pure form is realy kind. These stupid casinos took that powerful nature, and made it aggressive. How? Well, we all know that roulette in his pure form is without zero. He is made for science, for studying probability by B. Pascal. 0 was added later... Casinos founded out that they can make good money if they teach him how to be aggressive. How? Well they added 0 and they added house edge. I will explain this through my post. Lets say like this. Casinos took the roulette to battle for them. Of course he cant win alone, so they took of care to give him very powerfull allies if you are going to fight against him. Casino is not his superior (his boss) but he is boss of the zero and boss of the house edge. They are working for casinos. Roullete is just defending attack to his nature. How? Roulette has very few authorities at all. I would say his creator only, the nature. How are you attacinkg his nature, you will ask? Well the only thing he respects is the law of the third in the nature. This is his only authority. Without not knowing this, you will come to the casino, and play some stupid pure mechanic and mathematical systems that are not respect his authority. At some point he will figure that out, that is going to be considered as attack to him, and he will simply call his battle comrades to fight for him, and to fight for casino of course. This is the point at they are going to kill you. Roullete will hold you, and they are going to beat you, to kill you. How many people are playing roulette every day? Hunderths of milions. His battle comrades have very rich employers. So in this context that means, like "Prodigy" would say: They are always outnumbered, but never outgunned. You will lose every battle with them at some point. Maybe somethimes you can win a battle you never can win a war. You can never conquer them.   Is there any way to come to the roullete and to "talk" with him without fight and without mixing his comrades in this? Yes, my friends.How? Come to the roulette, show him that you also respect his authority, law of the third. That you also want to follow him.  And then he wont consider you as enemy, opposite in fact. He wont call his comrades to fight with you. He wont hold you. You wont be beaten. You can be friends with them, have dinners with them :) Then they can give you what you want as to a friend, instead they fight for that if you are their enemy.  You can all that take in your advantage.

Following law of the third, i think all of this has at least some sense. That is the way i told you my opinion on way like this...

Later i will manifest about 0 in this system, and in some points in the system also. But this is written for all of you. Lets fight all together. You, me, zero, roullete, house edge. Lets turn them all against evil casinos. Just be good, behave well, show respect. Is it posibble?

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Ok my friends, couple of thoughts now... I have to tell you this, this is completely diferent way of consideration on roulette....I know someone of you will maybe mock me on this, or maybe say that I am weirdie. But before that, try to understand what am I saying. Please.

On al this forums, roulette is considered as enemy. Ok. Most of us has some enemys and we want to destroy them on some kind of way... Nature of roulette is very powerful thing. But roulette in his pure form is realy kind. These regular casinos took that powerful nature, and made it aggressive. How? Well, we all know that roulette in his pure form is without zero. He is made for science, for studying probability by B. Pascal. 0 was added later... Casinos founded out that they can make good money if they teach him how to be aggressive. How? Well they added 0 and they added house edge. I will explain this through my post. Lets say like this. Casinos took the roulette to battle for them. Of course he can't win alone, so they took of care to give him very powerfull allies if you are going to fight against him. Casino is not his superior (his boss) but he is boss of the zero and boss of the house edge. They are working for casinos. roulette is just defending attack to his nature. How? Roulette has very few authorities at all. I would say his creator only, the nature. How are you attacinkg his nature, you will ask? Well the only thing he respects is the law of the third in the nature. This is his only authority. Without not knowing this, you will come to the casino, and play some regular pure mechanic and mathematical systems that are not respect his authority. At some point he will figure that out, that is going to be considered as attack to him, and he will simply call his battle comrades to fight for him, and to fight for casino of course. This is the point at they are going to kill you. roulette will hold you, and they are going to beat you, to kill you. How many people are playing roulette every day? Hunderths of milions. His battle comrades have very rich employers. So in this context that means, like "Prodigy" would say: They are always outnumbered, but never outgunned. You will lose every battle with them at some point. Maybe somethimes you can win a battle you never can win a war. You can never conquer them.   Is there any way to come to the roulette and to "talk" with him without fight and without mixing his comrades in this? Yes, my friends.How? Come to the roulette, show him that you also respect his authority, law of the third. That you also want to follow him.  And then he wont consider you as enemy, opposite in fact. He wont call his comrades to fight with you. He wont hold you. You wont be beaten. You can be friends with them, have dinners with them :) Then they can give you what you want as to a friend, instead they fight for that if you are their enemy.  You can all that take in your advantage.

Following law of the third, I think all of this has at least some sense. That is the way I told you my opinion on way like this...

Later I will manifest about 0 in this system, and in some points in the system also. But this is written for all of you. Lets fight all together. You, me, zero, roulette, house edge. Lets turn them all against evil casinos. Just be good, behave well, show respect. Is it posibble?

Ups sorry about my english again. When i was saying about house edgde in  the post above, i meant on the table limits. I hope now you understand.