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Started by malcop, Jun 30, 02:27 AM 2011

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malcop

Hi All,

I have been meaning to post a simple bet selection method I have been using on and of for quite a while now, it is so easy you don't even need to right anything down while playing, all the information you need is on the scoreboard.

I plays just as well on Baccarat as it dose on Roulette, Here goes

You look back over the last three spins/hands

If you see AAA bet A
If you see AAB bet B
If you see ABB bet B
If you see ABA bet B

That's it nothing else to it, now we all know ever bet selection method has it's weak point and my bet selection method it is this pattern AABAABAAB that is the only pattern that can produce a long losing streak, and yes it has happened in the past, but not enough to stop me making a consistant profit with this simple method.

I have attached two session I played over the last two days, on William Hill, slingshot Roulette.

Sitting one played two mini sessions +10, +2 = +12
Sitting two played three mini sessions +8, +8, +10 = +26

Total +38 units, using the pdf attached to this post.

I use one tweak I play exactly as laid out in the ebook, but I only aim for +10 units for each session, is use a critical spin, so for example if I am at +8 and the next bet if would would take me to or over +10 win or lose I would start a new mini session or leave the table.

Using this very simple method I can average between +10 to +20 units an hour on slingshot, that includes my losing sessions.

I do this without any crazy progression!

I have looked at lots of different things to do when I hit a loss of two or more in a row, like go into virtual mode ec.  But I think it is best to just ride out the losing string.

My stop-loss stops me losing two much, on thing if I was playing a mini session and it hit the stop-loss, then I would go into virtual mode and only start real money betting, when I get a WW or WLW when in virtual mode
What I love about this method is when a B&M casino I can just go upto a table and start betting right away without lots of tracking.  Remember it does not win all the time nothing does but in the long run for me so far at least it wins a lot more than it loses, and when you see it jumps on those long winning streaks it is a great buzz.

Most people fear the terrible twos, but with this method you would get WLWLWL, remember the losing pattern for this system is AABAABAAB, knowing that will prepare you when you see it forming.

Thanks

malcop






Playborne

I love simple systems, regardless their functionality excellence  ;D
playnow, playmore, playborneâ,,¢

Smee

Nice idea - i thought it was very clever so I worked it out quite carefully - what happens if the last 3 are BAA? Does that mean we bet on A?

I started playing it on a live wheel and it did really well. I was waiting for AAA or BBB to come up and going from there - if the only sequence that it will fail on is AABAABAAB then with AAA in front it has to fail on AAABAABAAB. It just has another A on the front. This would mean that for that pattern to show has a 1 on 1024 chance or 0.09% chance of failing - forgetting about the zero of course.

Wouldnt it just be easier to pick a sequence of 9 A's or B's (maybe somehow randomize it) and then bet the opposite as in the matrix / pattern systems of JohnLegends?

I think its the same thing. Im going to keep playing it tho - I like the odds!

Colbster

BAA is the same thing as ABB.  Yes, you would bet on A according to the example you gave, but A and B can be either/or any of the EC bets as you prefer.

Regarding the extra A preceding the series of failing results, you could just as easily put any other variation of spins before the AAB without changing any aspect of this system.  Since we only go back 3 spins, none of the preceding spin results will have any bearing on your game.

BlackPearl

Hello Malcop,

thanks for posting this very interesting method!

Do You play it on all EC`s or do You prefer a special one ?

Would love to hear more of your experiences, because I am
working too on a very special EC betting strategy atm...

Much Success!
Rolf 
Only the TRUTH can set free. . .   Gospel of John, Chapter 8, Verse 32

catalyst

hi Blackpearl
could you please share your experiences with the EC regarding bet selection and progression?
thanks

Tomla021

Hi
It might be useful to update this now? In general I have always liked this idea and even played it a few ways.
"No Whining, just Winning"

malcop

Quote from: Tomla021 on Feb 27, 01:49 PM 2012
Hi
It might be useful to update this now? In general I have always liked this idea and even played it a few ways.
Hi Tomla021,


At present I'm just looking into how this method works merged with GLC's interrupt idea, will post as soon as I have done some more testing/playing.


Thanks


Malcop

malcop

Hi All,


As some of you may know I have been testing/playing a merge with my bet selection method and GLC's Interrupt method.


But first a recap of the basic method looking back three hands:


AAA bet A
ABA Bet B
ABB Bet B
AAB Bet B


Killer sequence is ABBABBABBABBA I have seen this pattern continue for up to eleven spins!


Now this is how I play for the killer sequence 3 or 4 basic method losses in a row bet for the killer sequence, you have two ways of doing that, you could try and bet for the pattern to continue ABBABBA and keep betting for the pattern until a break in the pattern, or as I mainly do just bet on the B side so in the following sequence BBABBABBA I would get WWLWWLWWL, this is how I play the killer pattern most of the time but sometimes I will try and go for the whole killer pattern and go for the A part of the pattern, to get WWWWWWWWW, it's a matter of choice and how you feel your session is going, what I found though a lot of the time the AABAABAA is broken by going into AABAABAA-A so that is why most of the time I just stick to betting on the B side of the killer pattern.


Now the above is based on basic method and when I talk about going for the Killer pattern after 3/4 losses it is based on if you had just played the basic bet selection method straight.


Now onto GLC's interrupt tweak,  please look at his thread like before moving on: [size=78%]link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=7781.new;topicseen#new[/size]


Right now you have read the thread you should understand about GLC's interrupt tweak.


I have also introduced a play for the 22 pattern,


ABBAA bet B for the chop to continue.


+AAABBAAB bet B for the chop to continue.


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I played three sessions this morning on slingshot roulette, they ended +18, +13, +4 = +35


The +4 session ended after 13 spins due to problems on the site, it stopped updating the the results and would not allow me to place any bets, so I just called it a day, after all I had already made +35 units for less than a few hours work.


I have attached my blank Roulette/Baccarat scorecards they aver very easy to use when you are playing all you have to do is just place you unit bet size under the # column, so if in the next round you wanted to place a three unit bet for red just enter 3 and once the round is over you enter an X in the cell that won, based on where you entered your bet value and X the spreadsheet will know if your bet won or not and will update you balance for you accordingly, if you are using the roulette score card and a zero comes up just enter a Z for both R & B and the spreadsheet will know your bet lost and update your balance for you also.


When you look at the two sessions I posted you will sometimes see and I in the blank colulmn that means I have placed a Interrupt bet as per GLC's thread, and if you see a K that means I have had three basic method losses in a row and I'm playing for the killer sequence.


If you are interested in the progression I used I have attached that for to look at, I'm sure most of you have seen AC Butch's Money Management Plan before, it has been around for a long time and is freely available on the net.


One thing the CLB column is the Current Loss Balance since my last session high, in Butch's progression it states that if you have two wins in a row you then increas you bets so 2W2W3W3W4W4W ect, well if my CLB is bellow 0 then I will just place my bets based on the "If you are down x" part of the document and if I do get the CLB back to z or better and on a winning streak , will bet 3 units for a win ect. you will see examples of that in my two posted sessions, also once I get to +14 I will never place a bet that will take my CLB bellow -5, I use the CLB as a trailing stop-loss.

Also on my scorecards I have a Stage column if you use a progression that changes based on how many units you are up or down you can track that in the stage column, you start of at stage 1 and say you are down -6 and your progression calls for an increase just enter 2 in the stage column and it will reset the stage to zero so you can track your wins losses for that stage.

If you use virtual betting in your method just enter V in the blank column next the the W/L column and it will reset the bet value to zero but still track if you would have won or lost, so enter what unit value you would have placed and enter V in the blank column, the spreadsheet will take care of the rest.

I hope this helps, any questions please just ask.


Thanks


malcop



malcop

Hi All,


here is my third session of the day, this was a tough session, as you can see up to spin 40 I was in negative most of the time, I use the blue marker on hand/spin 40 to gauge how my session is going, I would have been happy to exit this session at +1 or +2 as you can see I hit that a few times after spin 40, but I pressed on and ended the session at +8 with a high of +12, I felt happy to get away with that thought this session was going to be a losing one, I don't expect to win them all.


You can see more examples of how I play the interrupts and how I play with my killer sequence, when I get three basic losses in a row.


Thanks


malcop

malcop

Hi All,

This morning I decided to try a little experiment, I would play three sessions and place 100 bets in each session so that means I stayed at the table for 103 spins, I would risk no more than 15 units per session and flat-bet only, I keep playing until one of two things happen I get to spin 103 or I lose my 15 unit buy-in.

Note I would not normally play this way if I was flat betting I would be happy for around a +5 or more if the table was good to me then exit, I played this way just to see how the my method with Interrupts ect. held out, of course this is not a comprehensive test I know that, but I feel it is promising.

And here are my results:

PM005 +8 with a high of +10
PM006 +15 with a high of +18
PM007 +2 with a high of +12

+25 units total flat-bet.

Average of 8.33 units per session.

Each session on slingshot took approximately one hour and twenty minutes, it took me four hours to make 25 units flat bet with a total of 309 spins.

PM005 ended with a zero on spin 103, and I took a rest break, when I went back to the same table I could see if I had stayed I would have been on a streak of 8 with a break of 1 then back on the streak with a 6! a total of +15 more points, but you have no way of knowing when a long streak is going to come along.

I don't think I need to post any-more sessions these last three give you plenty of examples how I use the methods described in my posts above.

Any questions just ask.



Thanks


malcop

GLC

Excellent work Malcop.

Thanks for all the effort it takes to post that much playing time.

I have been having excellent results playing this bet selection method and using the ambidex bet method I detailed in my post titled "4 times the power" under money management.



LoL,

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

malcop

Quote from: GLC on Feb 29, 01:37 PM 2012
Excellent work Malcop.

Thanks for all the effort it takes to post that much playing time.

I have been having excellent results playing this bet selection method and using the ambidex bet method I detailed in my post titled "4 times the power" under money management.



LoL,

George
Hi Gorge,


All I can say is thank you again, I have to admit I was a bit tired after my four hour stint this morning!


It did go against the grain letting those profits disappear on my third session but a test is a test, because I was playing for 103 spins I fully expected to have a few losing sessions, I was more interested to see how much they would lose by.


Your interrupt idea and the extra killer play I have incorporated, has the Simple Trend Catcher up a few notches, I have always been happy with the results I was getting with Simple Trend, but now I am very very happy  ;D


Thanks


Philip

Tomla021

hey thats my ambidex-lol   good luck guys
"No Whining, just Winning"

GLC

Quote from: Tomla021 on Feb 29, 09:08 PM 2012
hey that's my ambidex-LoL   good luck guys


Tom, I hope I didn't violate an unspoken code between us by revealing the ambidex method.  I have been testing it and it's pretty solid.  The thing I like about it is that it's a positive progression so we're always in control of how many units we want to risk.


This bet selection makes it almost invincible.


I have tried it with a variety of progressions:


The simplest is a simple D'Alembert or +1/-1
1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3
4 4 4 4
5 5 5 5
6 6 6 6
7 7 7 7
etc....


This works just fine.  It's a little slow, but effective.  If you want to make it more of a grind, you can play the double Alembert


1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2
2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3
3 3 3 3
etc...


Or for those who want a more aggressive version of Alembert


1 1 1 1
3 3 3 3
5 5 5 5
7 7 7 7
9 9 9 9
etc...


A simple martingale is also very effective.  I have tried it and just can't seem to get past the 16 level.


1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2
4 4 4 4
8 8 8 8
16 16 16 16
32 32 32 32
64 64 64 64


Any time we complete a level, we will be at +4


Fibonacci


1 1 1 1
1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3
5 5 5 5
8 8 8 8
13 13 13 13
21 21 21 21
34 34 34 34
etc...


Remember, we have to win 2 levels to fully recover.  The level of our 1st win and the level just below it.


Using the ambidex bet method may be too complicated especially if the bet selection system wins on a flat bet.



That would be too good to be true.


This may be more info than most of you are interested in, but if even one of you can fit it into your arsenal, it'll be worth it.


Once again thanks to Tomla021 and Malcop.


I think I'm right on the verge, if not there, of having what I began this journey looking for. :thumbsup:


Luck to all of you,


George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

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