The most simple constant winning bet - A real HG without secrets or guesswork

[Bayes]

I tested the strategy against over 200,000 spins from Betvoyager (no zero). Although results were positive, you'd need considerably more than 4000 units to see you through the tough sequences.

Also, note that at times required stakes exceeded the house limits (1₵ to €10), so at those times 512 was flat bet until a new high balance was achieved.

The bet selection was for an immediate repeat of the previous number. Maybe using the "longest sleeper" wouldn't give such scary drawdowns, although the maths says it makes no difference.

[Bayes]

I've attached the results file for those interested.

[Bayes]

Actually, using that particular bet selection, a profit of 6000 units was made flat betting.  

And using a mild progression of 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3,3:

[winkel]

Did anyone notice that I gave a bankroll of 2000 to 4000 chips?

what will it mean, if I lost that BR?
perhaps stop playing?

And if I have a target of +100 then what will the Stop-Loss be?

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winkel

[Mistarlupo]

Actually, using that particular bet selection, ...

Isn't the bet selection just "any number we like"? Basically, the key part is long and cheap progression, not the bet selection, is that right?

[winkel]

Isn't the bet selection just "any number we like"? Basically, the key part is long and cheap progression, not the bet selection, is that right?

You can take it that way, but the main idea is:

even if a number sleeps very long it has to appear 1/37th in the long run.

e.g.
in 3700 spins a number has to apear 100 times
if it slept for 600 spins it has to appear in 3100 spins 99 times
that means every 31th spin!


We just donÃ,´t know how long the long run is.

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winkel

[Boo_Ray]

@winkel

I posted my results... why don't you believe them? I am not arguing with you that it doesn't work.. But I am not going to play it... Is that a problem for you?

[Bayes]

what will it mean, if I lost that BR?
perhaps stop playing?

And if I have a target of +100 then what will the Stop-Loss be?

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winkel

Winkel, "stop playing" means reset your stake to unit, yes? If it means something else in addition to this, what is it?

I don't know, the same? (your bankroll)

[winkel]

@winkel

I posted my results... why don't you believe them? I am not arguing with you that it doesn't work.. But I am not going to play it... Is that a problem for you?

But why is it then a problem to give me the spins?

[winkel]

Winkel, "stop playing" means reset your stake to unit, yes? If it means something else in addition to this, what is it?

I don't know, the same? (your bankroll)

Hi Bayes,

it is different playing 10000 spins in a row or to bet just to a target restart later.

I would stop at half of my daily bankroll and stop after 100+ and select a new sleeping number.

We know: Betting a single # over and over and continously will end up -2,7 or less

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winkel

[Bayes]

Ok, I will re-code the simulation using your guidelines (later though).

So your preference would be to not use an RNG (pick ANY number) but use the longest sleeper from a B & M casino. I don't have enough actuals to test this, but I can use an RNG and start the betting after ONE show of a number which has been sleeping for, say, > 200 spins.

[Boo_Ray]

But why is it then a problem to give me the spins?

It was a RNG test and because of poor performance I didn't saved the session

[winkel]

It was a RNG test and because of poor performance I didn't saved the session

so it would be no problem to test again and then to give me the spins.

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winkel

[Boo_Ray]

And what do you want to prove to me?

[bene126]

HI all.
Winkel I know that you are a great player and i have tested one of your system. It beat 707 000 live spins but with small effect.  I like your idea of this system. It sounds interesting and it has logical reason why it should work. Maybe little modified and it will work very good. But i have few questions : 1. I tried  this system but sometimes it takes much spins to get in new profit. In land based casino 500 spins takes about 8 hours. I dont think that you are playing for so long. How are you doing that if you want to end with roulette for this day and you are in minus with your capital? And one more question : I think this method can be modified to dozens or EC`s.  There will be maybe less spins to get in profit and less capital. 
That`s all and thanks for your reply.

btw.  sorry for my english

regards bene