The most simple constant winning bet - A real HG without secrets or guesswork

[WhiteKnight]

Hey Winkel,

Appreciate you sharing this system with us.  Had a few questions while I was testing some sessions:

1.  The progression we are using is a martingale, do you have a stop-loss at which stage you would no longer play...i.e. 1,2,4,8 ... if you are still not at your profit level of +100 by the time you are betting 4 units, would you continue to the 8 units following a hit of your number?

2.  If you are close to even and you are at say the 4 unit level in the progression, would you drop down to a lower level, or would you go onto 8 units following a hit?

3.  Are you sure that 4000 units is enough to cover the drawdowns at times?

I did some quick tests and in a half a month of actuals from DB, it generated +6000 units...however, at times there were some fairly big drawdowns of 1000 units or more and the +6000 was based on testing of not reducing the betting unit even if getting close to even...at times it went to 16 and 32 I believe.  Oh yeah, the bet selection I did was simply had the program generate a random number for each session, not the furthest sleeper.

Look forward to hearing from you.  Thanks!

[winkel]

@all

every strategy is like a tool. It doesnÃ,´t work on its own, you have to handle it an you have to learn how to handle it the best way.

playing OCÃ,´s
If I see that a number is not reacting like I wish (e.g. it is appearing every 40th spin) IÃ,´d better stop with a small loss.

If I have a bankroll of 1000 chips and IÃ,´m at stage 16 and the winnings plus bankroll are now down to 500 I should stop and not bet the last penny. Better use the trot to find a new long-sleeper.

Never restart betting the same number!

Yes it is a Martingale, but as a progression in the win, not in the loss.

br
winkel

[Boo_Ray]

playing OCÃ,´s
If I see that a number is not reacting like I wish (e.g. it is appearing every 40th spin) IÃ,´d better stop with a small loss.

If I have a bankroll of 1000 chips and IÃ,´m at stage 16 and the winnings plus bankroll are now down to 500 I should stop and not bet the last penny. Better use the trot to find a new long-sleeper.

so there is some guesswork afterall

[bene126]

Bayes. . have you coded it?

[F_LAT_INO]

Bayes. . have you coded it?

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[bene126]

Thnaks Flatino but i think bayes said that he will recode strategy because he tested it only on 1 number. And Winkel said that he must change  numbers and i think so too. So bayes will recode this system i hope.

[winkel]

so there is some guesswork afterall

Is ist Geuesswork or Intelligence to see that the horse you are riding is dead.

[Boo_Ray]

Is ist Geuesswork or Intelligence to see that the horse you are riding is dead.

then you should put up diferent name of the topic next time... specialy the word "holy grail" seems to be attracted to you

[GARNabby]

then you should put up diferent name of the topic next time... specialy the word "holy grail" seems to be attracted to you

There's nothing wrong with "reaching for the stars", long as we all remember that... until something is down on paper, and thereafter independently verified by every one of us who tries it (at the casinos).

However, i do agree with the substance of the above reply... that slow and lengthy betting progressions alone will always become disastrous, and even more so after spending a year or more of regular play losing back also its possible (short-term) winnings.  The casinos employ optimized limit-spreads, based on many factors... including the average player's BR, duration-of-play, and bet-size.  At the extremes, those limits begin to fail with either of the "whales" or pikers, the latters becoming a problem by "standing to win a lot while losing a little".

[Bayes]

Bayes. . have you coded it?

Rather than use RNG again I would prefer to code it sticking to winkel's "B & M" rule:

in a B&M Casino we buy the permanences of the day before.  we bet the number which hasnÃ,´t appeared at all or slept the longest way back.

The problem is, I don't have enough actuals to test this, and I don't have the time to download spins from Wiesbaden. If anyone can provide the spins and vouch for their integrity, I will be happy to do the coding. I think there's a bot available quite cheap which will collect spins from the Dublinbet wheels, and that would be ideal. I Can't remember the name of the company which sells the bot, but they used to advertise on VLSroulette.

[winkel]

spins from Dortmund March 2008

[winkel]

part 2

[winkel]

Part 3

the name is "Berlin" but spins are from Dortmund
Missing days Easter-Holidays

[winkel]

then you should put up diferent name of the topic next time... specialy the word "holy grail" seems to be attracted to you

A plain doesnÃ,´t exist because not everybody can fly it.
A new quality of the naysayers.

As I wrote: you even have to learn to handle a tool to use it perfectly.

all other claims of being simple and stupid to be a HG is against all stochastics and probability.

Why do you refuse to accept?

[Bayes]

Thanks for the files winkel.  

Coding this may take a while, I have other things in my "in tray", but I will do it.