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Warrior,

I just entered those W/L's into roulette Xtreme one by one, and I finished +15.  I have no idea what you did.  Starting with the 8L's (oldest) until the middle of your numbers, the progression got all the way to 3a then recovered and went into profit.  It went into profit for a new high about 4 diffrent times after that.  I played all your W/L's till the end and it finished at +15.  That was all while never betting higher than 3 units on any one spin.

If there is something you are confused about let me know.  I can go through this one by one if you don't get it.

[ll l ll l lll ll]

update:  I just had my first losing session in over 1500 spins.  It went over 3c progression and I tried playing it out but was not worth continuing that particular session.

If playing this way a proper stop loss would be to quit the session at 3c and take the loss.  This equates to -54 units.

However in 1500 spins I have accumulated +350 units, for a total of +296. 

I am not satisfied playing this way with that kind of loss and set back.  Like I said from the begining, the purpose of this thread was to test this to it's limits.  I can now take the strong points and experiment in a few different directions to make it better.  My goal is to make it strong enough where it can win flat betting with a solid bet selection or make it strong enough where I only need a minimal progression to bet with big units.  I'll keep you updated on my improvements.

[wklnetwork]

well done

[GLC]

It's been my experience that as long as there is a number the ball can land on that will cause you to lose the current bet, eventually enough of those number's will come at you in a large enough clump that it will cause you to lose.  Maybe not lose all that you have won, hopefully not.  That's what we have to learn to contend with and it's a hard thing to accept.  These excellent systems like this one win a lot and then that sequence from hell strikes and the casino takes back some or all of what you've won.


I don't think this needs tweaking too much.  We just have to accept that it's going to lose every now and then.  The more you tweak it, you either make it win slower or win faster.  If it wins slower, when you finally have a loss, and you will, it takes a big chunk back.  If it wins faster, when you finally have a loss, and you will, it takes a big chunk back.  Either that or you set a lower stop-loss and the losses come more often but not quite as big.  See what I mean.


Show me one system on this forum that doesn't do this.  Even a flatbet works the same way.  You win, win, win, and then you have a bad streak and get a fairly big drawdown and it takes forever to work out of the hole.  That's the same phenomenon at work.  We have to accept reality.


Now, we just have to find the systems, and this may be one of them, that win more than they lose over the long run.  Most of us, including myself, tend to give up on excellent systems at the first sign of vulnerability.  I don't doubt that there are many players winning with systems that were posted on here, created a swarm of activity, and then died off because of a few bad sessions.  But those with patience and fortitude pushed on and realized that they had a long term winner.


I hope that's the case.


GLC

[superman]

Ok mark my homework please, just run through the attached file to make sure I was betting the correct dozen, the file has this

Last4 dc,da,dc,db Decision dc

The last spun dozen is on the left, oldest on the right, you will see at the end of the file the bomb dropped, 26 losses in a row, I haven't bothered doing the progression, not sure if I even will!

Thoughts anyone?

[chrisbis]

@superman


against which results/casino Neal?

[atlantis]

Ok mark my homework please, just run through the attached file to make sure I was betting the correct dozen, the file has this

Last4 dc,da,dc,db Decision dc

The last spun dozen is on the left, oldest on the right, you will see at the end of the file the bomb dropped, 26 losses in a row, I haven't bothered doing the progression, not sure if I even will!

Thoughts anyone?

Hi Superman,

We are going to play the dominant dozen in a set of 3 separate spins.  So, the next 3 spins will all be 1 unit on the 3rd dozen.

Did you play the SAME dominant dozen for max of 3 spins?
If I am right you are supposed to play the qualifying DOZ for three attempts before searching out a new dominant....?

A.

[superman]

Will need clarification, I played whichever dozen was dominant every spin, I thought that was how it was done, let me know barcode please

against which results/casino Neal?

BV NZ, not that it matters.

[warrior]

Warrior,

I just entered those W/L's into roulette Xtreme one by one, and I finished +15.  I have no idea what you did.  Starting with the 8L's (oldest) until the middle of your numbers, the progression got all the way to 3a then recovered and went into profit.  It went into profit for a new high about 4 diffrent times after that.  I played all your W/L's till the end and it finished at +15.  That was all while never betting higher than 3 units on any one spin.

If there is something you are confused about let me know.  I can go through this one by one if you don't get it.

first 100 spins -14 ,the 44 spins after brought it down to-4 dont no how you got +15.

[superman]

@ barcode, do we spin until we have a dominant dozen then bet that dozen until a win then move on, all the time tracking all spins? I didn't do it this way, I have just been spinning, tracking and betting on whichever is dominant.

Please advise, we need to know

[ll l ll l lll ll]

@ barcode, do we spin until we have a dominant dozen then bet that dozen until a win then move on, all the time tracking all spins? I didn't do it this way, I have just been spinning, tracking and betting on whichever is dominant.

Please advise, we need to know

No.  It's always betting for a 3 spin set.  First you need to find the "most dominant dozen," which is the first dozen to appear twice.  You then bet that dozen for 3 consecutive spins.  The ONLY time we move UP in the progression is if you lose ALL 3 bets in that 3-spin set.  If we win 1 out of 3 we didn't win and we didn't lose......in this case we re-evaluate and play the "new most dominant dozen," for 3 more spins at the same unit.  Our goal is to win 2 out of 3 in a set, or 3 out of 3 in a set.  Anytime that happens we made a profit in that set and we can move DOWN one step in the progression. 

You can then stop anytime you reach a new overall high in profits, OR you can keep playing and attempt to get down to the smallest betting amount of 1a.

[ll l ll l lll ll]

first 100 spins -14 ,the 44 spins after brought it down to-4 don't no how you got +15.

I don't know how you got these figures?  I was in a hole, betting up to 3a in the begining but it recovered and I was in profit 4 different times from the middle of the results you gave me to the very end.

[ll l ll l lll ll]

It's been my experience that as long as there is a number the ball can land on that will cause you to lose the current bet, eventually enough of those number's will come at you in a large enough clump that it will cause you to lose.  Maybe not lose all that you have won, hopefully not.  That's what we have to learn to contend with and it's a hard thing to accept.  These excellent systems like this one win a lot and then that sequence from hell strikes and the casino takes back some or all of what you've won.


I don't think this needs tweaking too much.  We just have to accept that it's going to lose every now and then.  The more you tweak it, you either make it win slower or win faster.  If it wins slower, when you finally have a loss, and you will, it takes a big chunk back.  If it wins faster, when you finally have a loss, and you will, it takes a big chunk back.  Either that or you set a lower stop-loss and the losses come more often but not quite as big.  See what I mean.


Show me one system on this forum that doesn't do this.  Even a flatbet works the same way.  You win, win, win, and then you have a bad streak and get a fairly big drawdown and it takes forever to work out of the hole.  That's the same phenomenon at work.  We have to accept reality.


Now, we just have to find the systems, and this may be one of them, that win more than they lose over the long run.  Most of us, including myself, tend to give up on excellent systems at the first sign of vulnerability.  I don't doubt that there are many players winning with systems that were posted on here, created a swarm of activity, and then died off because of a few bad sessions.  But those with patience and fortitude pushed on and realized that they had a long term winner.


I hope that's the case.


GLC

Yes you are right.  I'm going to push forward and look at this from a few different angles and see which is the best direction to take it.  I have a few ideas.

[superman]

It's always betting for a 3 spin set

So we get our first dominant dozen and bet it until a win OR until 3 spins, correct?

Whichever comes first, we then look for the new dominant dozen, correct? rinse and repeat

I'm not even bothering with the progression steps yet, until I get the bet selection correct, please advise.

[warrior]

 try REVERSING IT you will see its a winner wait for 2 losses then go in bet 2 dozens  hit and run not continuos, 2 to 3 games and and out ,you said you want to bet a 1000$ at a time,the longer you stay the worst it is ,FLAT betting wont work,just my opinion.