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Stop at 6

Started by MrJ, Oct 29, 04:33 PM 2011

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MrJ

This is all flat betting. You'll be betting 1-7(?) numbers. This FINE method is based on repeaters.

In the beginning, there is some charting. Have a chart in front of you with all the numbers,
0-36. Do NOT use any past numbers already hit, start fresh. As each number hits, put a little mark next to it. When a number gets to TWO marks, you start betting on that number (level 1).

Continue to track/mark every number that hits WHILE YOU ARE BETTING. Another number with two marks? Continue betting all numbers with 2 marks on it. For how long?
Until you get a number with THREE hits on it, that's a win by the way (level 2). You will now be betting on only the number(s) with 3 hits on it. That might be one number, it might be 5 numbers. It might be one spin, it might be 13 spins. Continue betting until one of those numbers gets to FOUR hits (level 3).

You will now only bet on ALL numbers with 4 hits on it. Remember, continue your tracking. A new number might be added. Meaning, it had 3 hits on it, it gets another hit and now gets added to the latest group. The group with 4 hits.

We are now betting on all numbers with 4 hits on it UNTIL one of those has 5 hits (level 4). Same thing, bet on the number(s) with 5 hits until one of those gets to 6 hits. Then STOP, you are done, start over fresh.

Keep in mind, some fast things can happen. Meaning, lets say you are betting on a number that JUST HIT for the third time. One spin later, it hits again. It can go up to the next level in ONE SPIN. You would then be betting on all numbers (in this case 1) with 4 hits on it. Always continue to track numbers while you are betting all the way to the point of starting over.

This is one rule I know some will forget. You will see (usually, not always) you might have several numbers with 2 hits, fewer with 3 hits, even fewer with 4 hits, only a couple with 5 hits. This method is nice (in my opinion) because it takes advantage of repeaters in clusters, as opposed to repeaters over a longer period of time. I'll answer questions as long as they are not stupid.  give_rose

Ken

DISCLAIMER: There are risks involved when playing methods and you can lose alot of money. Not all days are winning days. Please play responsibly and never drive while intoxicated.

Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

MrJ

SIDENOTE: Remember, we are only betting on one level at a time. That level might have one number in it, it could have 7 numbers in it. As soon as the next level starts, you'll only be betting on ONE number (at first).


Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

GLC

Ken,  This is a violation of you're never bet more than 4 numbers at a time rule. :lol:   I like it because it's not so single zero wheel friendly.  I just ran a quick test to +50.  Never in any real trouble.  It does take a little concentration.

I especially think starting over with 1 number when you get a new high number of hits by the number is much better than continuing to bet on any numbers that have hit more than twice.

Thanks for a thoughtful system,

GLC

In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

MrJ

 "I especially think starting over with 1 number when you get a new high number of hits by the number is much better" >>> I agree and thanks!

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

superman

Quote"I especially think starting over with 1 number when you get a new high number of hits by the number is much better"

I agree too, Ken, over how many spins should the tracking be, I have botted it but chuck all numbers into an array of a set length, obviousley if you go 50 or 60 spins some numbers drop out of the history, do you just let it go as many spins a sit takes to get to the last 6th hit?
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

MrJ

Quote from: superman on Oct 30, 07:55 AM 2011

I agree too, Ken, over how many spins should the tracking be, I have botted it but chuck all numbers into an array of a set length, obviousley if you go 50 or 60 spins some numbers drop out of the history, do you just let it go as many spins a sit takes to get to the last 6th hit?


Hmmm, not sure if we are on the same page? When you start to track (starting fresh) you should get a number hit twice, rather soon, within 12 spins. YES, I keep going with all past numbers until that 6th hit. Another thing I do but I hesitated whether to post it or not......there are 4 levels total until we get to that 6th hit. Start out that first level (the twice hit numbers) at WHATEVER dollar amount you feel comfortable with. As we already know, with each NEW level, there will be fewer numbers.

The NEXT level, I RAISE my bets by one unit. Next level, up another unit and the last level (the number(s) with 5 hits) one more unit again. So for example >> lets say you started out at $2 per number for level one. It would then be $3, then $4 and last $5. You have the choice to raise it like I do OR keep all units the SAME for all four levels, your choice.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

superman

We're on the same page Ken, I just needed to know if you had a cut off point if the 6th was taking long to appear, thanks for your answer.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

MrJ

Dont get me wrong, you could play with a stop/loss if you so choose.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

birdhands

Ken, this is awesome.  I've been working with repeats for weeks now, hoping to come up with something this cool.  Many thanks.  What's the worst you've seen so far?


Sam

MrJ

I'll answer your concern kind of differently. The worst SITUATION that can happen is in the beginning. Meaning, we have a ton of numbers we're betting on (with two hits) and it takes a long time for a 3rd hit. Remember, as soon as we get that 3rd hit, its only ONE number we're betting on (at first). I have found that a number getting the 4th and 5th hit happen 'somewhat' fast.

Starting out COULD BE long, I won't lie. So far, I am WAY UP (real money) with this method.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

birdhands

If that turns out to be consistently true we could always start betting with the first triple.


Interestingly, I just saw a number hit 4 times in a row on Betvoyager.  That was a first for me.

MrJ

Quote from: birdhands on Oct 31, 11:30 AM 2011
If that turns out to be consistently true we could always start betting with the first triple.


Interestingly, I just saw a number hit 4 times in a row on Betvoyager.  That was a first for me.


A couple of points >>

A) I was kind of thinking the same, start out with the first triple hit. Yes, the waiting/tracking time will increase a bit.

B) You saw the same number hit 4 times in a row? If playing this method at the time, that would of been some very nice hits!!

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

Colbster

Ken,

This is a really elegant method - Nicely done!  I had the worst-case scenario just now of having numerous numbers to cover at each of the levels before moving to the next level.  By increasing my stake on each level as you suggested (1-2-3-4), I still came out several units ahead by the end.  Thanks for the system!

Colby

MrJ

"just now of having numerous numbers to cover at each of the levels" >>> Can you explain this a little more?

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

MadMax

Yes, this seems a very pleasant method. I´ve just made a small paper test with the first 158 spins of Iggiv´s german live casino spins. These would be 2 games played to the 6th appearence of a number.

Here I found out the following:
just flat betting would leave us with a loss of 1 unit, rising the betsize with every level would lead to a loss of 35 units, but: if we would rise the betsize with every new number by 1, starting every level with 1 unit on 1 number, 2 units on 2 numbers and so on, these spins would leave us with a win of 195 units!

Of course, this is a very small test and the picture could change very fast, but I guess it´s worth a look.
I will do some more tests tomorrow.
What do you think about this tweak?

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