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***TRILOGY***

Started by Johnlegend, May 31, 05:05 PM 2012

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6th-sense

you are right there jl...and its an unfortunate thing negativity..i don,t mean to push warriors system on here only that rules from this makes warriors system even more effective..
it passses the time playing 3 slow systems at once..look forward to hearing the rest

Johnlegend

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jun 05, 08:00 AM 2012
you are right there jl...and its an unfortunate thing negativity..i don't mean to push warriors system on here only that rules from this makes warriors system even more effective..
it passses the time playing 3 slow systems at once..look forward to hearing the rest

Don't worry about time 6th sense. Worry about winning. When I first started winning consistently with roulette. A friend one day asked me how much do you aim to win a day?. When I replied 3 units. He started laughing (Typical response) I responded. 3 units is nothing. But if you can win it everyday. And I mean everyday for 100 days. What do you have?

300 UNITS. And you have generated a decent bankroll from nothing. That played with a good method will overall grow and grow. Until you can increase your unit VALUE.

Now this is a stumbling block for many. I've heard it so many times even on this forum. Theres no patience everyone wants to win loads yesterday. And the opposite will happen. If you aim for 3 units a day to start with you are on the right track. From little acorns grow mighty oaks.

If you can really do the 100 day/session test. You will never look back. And you won't be playing with your original risk. You will be playing with your winnings. And that's a sweet feeling. Okay 6TH SENSE. The full method rules on a fresh thread will hit the forum later. And this is my last method to be presented for the forseeable future. I can't do anymore. Its all here now on this forum. Its up to the individual to put the time in or not.

6th-sense

i already do play with my winnings and yes it is a nice feeling...i was using the progression i posted 1st time round got a bit scary but never lost..so for my heart i,m taking it slower as nothing really to lose but just stopping each session on a plus regardless how early it is...each 10 units is a milestone..but none the less its my 10 units now..thats the way to think..the trick is to learn the bet and climb off the arc of winning before following the trend down into losses.....how? using the very stats in front of you as you are playing seeing the trend.........patience...is the key

Johnlegend

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jun 05, 08:25 AM 2012
i already do play with my winnings and yes it is a nice feeling...i was using the progression i posted 1st time round got a bit scary but never lost..so for my heart I'm taking it slower as nothing really to lose but just stopping each session on a plus regardless how early it is...each 10 units is a milestone..but none the less its my 10 units now..that's the way to think..the trick is to learn the bet and climb off the arc of winning before following the trend down into losses.....how? using the very stats in front of you as you are playing seeing the trend.........patience...is the key
ABSOLUTELY 6TH SENSE. You have got the right mind for this game. One of the few.

Chauncy47

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 05, 08:18 AM 2012
don't worry about time 6th sense. Worry about winning. When I first started winning consistently with roulette. A friend one day asked me how much do you aim to win a day. When I replied 3 units. He started laughing (Typical response) I responded. 3 units is nothing. But if you can win it everyday. And I mean everyday for 100 days. What do you have?

300 UNITS. And you have generatted a decent bankroll from nothing. That played with a good method will overall grow and grow. Until you can increase you unit VALUE.

Now this is a stumbling block for many. I've heard it so many times even on this forum. Theres no patience everyone wants to win loads yesterday. And the opposite will happen. If you aim for 3 units a day to start with you are on the right track. From little acorns grow mighty oaks.
If you can really do the 100 day/session test. You will never look back. And you won't be playing with your original risk. You will be playing with your winnings. And that's a sweet feeling. Okay 6TH SENSE. The full method rules on a fresh thread will hit the forum later. And this is my last method to be presented for the foreseeable future. I can do anymore. Its all here now on this forum. Its up to the individual to put the time in or not.

Hi JL... you are spot on with your comments and I would like to add to your post.  Patience, discipline and the proper mindset are absolutely KEY!  If I may twist your words a bit from above and change them from "Worry about winning" to "Expect to Win"  I started this journey with 200 unit and have grown my BR significantly and have not looked back since the start. You are also right about winning and the element of time.  There are some days I walk out of the casino with a loss or just broke even, but those days are far and few between in the big picture.  The only thing I have done a bit different is that I have tweaked my own betting strategies to accommodate for the Double Zero's from time to time.  As you have said before, this needs to be looked at in weeks and months and that's part of the discipline if you choose to play this way.   I don't know about you JL, but I now view winning as the easy part and I focus on my discipline on the rules while engaged in play and my emotions during the game, while also being the best observer I can during my time on the floor looking for the little things to give me an edge in the world of randomness!     

atlantis

Hi JL,
CODE20 looks great! And I agree with you about the "game lock" strategy. Very wise. Even though I think I figured it out from your post I will definately look forward to the full rules of play when you post them - but from what I've seen it's a neat idea. :)
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Quote
1,A,2,C----lead off line
1,A,3,B----Two matching triggers signal start of up to 18 bet game.
2,B,3,C
2,B,1,A
1,C,2,A
1,B,1,C----Eventual 20 frame split of 13/7

Hi JL,
Interesting that it's kind of playing TRILOGY at the same time!!
Did you notice if you played a bet after a qualifying sequence of MATCH followed by 2 NON-MATCHES that those particular events happened 3 times and the 3 bets won?
I highlighted these "trilogy-type" bets below:

1,A,2,C----lead off line
1,A,3,B----Two matching triggers signal start of up to 18 bet game.
2,B,3,C     won pos1
2,B,1,A
1,C,2,A     won pos1
1,B,1,C     won pos4  ----Eventual 20 frame split of 13/7

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Johnlegend

Quote from: Chauncy47 on Jun 05, 08:43 AM 2012
Hi JL... you are spot on with your comments and I would like to add to your post.  Patience, discipline and the proper mindset are absolutely KEY!  If I may twist your words a bit from above and change them from "Worry about winning" to "Expect to Win"  I started this journey with 200 unit and have grown my BR significantly and have not looked back since the start. You are also right about winning and the element of time.  There are some days I walk out of the casino with a loss or just broke even, but those days are far and few between in the big picture.  The only thing I have done a bit different is that I have tweaked my own betting strategies to accommodate for the Double Zero's from time to time.  As you have said before, this needs to be looked at in weeks and months and that's part of the discipline if you choose to play this way.   I don't know about you JL, but I now view winning as the easy part and I focus on my discipline on the rules while engaged in play and my emotions during the game, while also being the best observer I can during my time on the floor looking for the little things to give me an edge in the world of randomness!   
Hi Chauncy47, you are an inspiration to me even. To hear of someone consistently beating the hardest thing in gambling. A DOUBLE ZERO WHEEL. Is fantastic. And it shows theres no excuses. If you have it inside of you. You are going to beat this game longterm. ABSOLUTELY...

Johnlegend

Quote from: atlantis on Jun 05, 09:21 AM 2012

Hi JL,
Interesting that it's kind of playing TRILOGY at the same time!!
Did you notice if you played a bet after a qualifying sequence of MATCH followed by 2 NON-MATCHES that those particular events happened 3 times and the 3 bets won?
I highlighted these "trilogy-type" bets below:

1,A,2,C----lead off line
1,A,3,B----Two matching triggers signal start of up to 18 bet game.
2,B,3,C     won pos1
2,B,1,A
1,C,2,A     won pos1
1,B,1,C     won pos4  ----Eventual 20 frame split of 13/7

A.
Hi Atlantis EXACTLY. They say you should think outside of the box. To come up with the great stuff. In this case its thinking inside the box. I love scrutinizing that 20 spin frame. Game after game. It becomes very readable and the methods create themselves as a result.

TRILOGY and CODE 20. Both came to me in the same session. And its because Mr percentage, randoms keeper, works hard to keep it in balance no matter how all over the place he may go. That profit making methods become possible. Even at level stakes.

I'm only about an hour away from dropping CODE 20 on the forum. Just writing down the key rules...

TwoCatSam

John,

Are you a motivational speaker in real life?  You're not really Tony Robbins are you?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Johnlegend

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 05, 12:44 PM 2012
John,

Are you a motivational speaker in real life?  You're not really Tony Robbins are you?

Sam
No Sam im a simple guy who knows what is and what isnt possible with this game. I dont and never/have/will bow to math based thinkers like yourself. Because you are completely off course in your assumptions. And too set in your ways to ever go forward.

atlantis

Just wanted to post an example of the trilogy variation idea which I referred to in an earlier post before I forget it  - so just recording here... (hope you don't mind John)
I changed the TRIGGER to>>>
Betting only once after ONE vertical MATCH + 2 vertical NON-MATCHES.
(I would use the GLC suggested prog)


3 A 2 C
1 0 1 B   
3 C 2 A   
1 B 2 B     
2 C 3 A  - w @ pos2     +1       
3 B 3 C       
3 C 2 B - w @ pos4      +2 
1 C 3 A         
3 A 2 B  - w @ pos1      +3 
1 C 1 B   
3 B 1 C - l @ pos3         +1 
3 A 1 C   
2 A 2 B   
3 C 1 A  - w @ pos1       +2
0 A 3 A     
2 C 1 C  - w @ pos4     +3
1 B 3 A   
1 B 2 C   
3 C 1 C  - w @ pos1      +4

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Johnlegend

Quote from: atlantis on Jun 05, 02:12 PM 2012
Just wanted to post an example of the trilogy variation idea which I referred to in an earlier post before I forget it  - so just recording here... (hope you don't mind John)
I changed the TRIGGER to>>>
Betting only once after ONE vertical MATCH + 2 vertical NON-MATCHES.
(I would use the GLC suggested prog)


3 A 2 C
1 0 1 B   
3 C 2 A   
1 B 2 B     
2 C 3 A  - w @ pos2     +1       
3 B 3 C       
3 C 2 B - w @ pos4      +2 
1 C 3 A         
3 A 2 B  - w @ pos1      +3 
1 C 1 B   
3 B 1 C - l @ pos3         +1 
3 A 1 C   
2 A 2 B   
3 C 1 A  - w @ pos1       +2
0 A 3 A     
2 C 1 C  - w @ pos4     +3
1 B 3 A   
1 B 2 C   
3 C 1 C  - w @ pos1      +4

A.
Nice work Atlantis. I will side test that as I play the games.

atlantis

OK John - glad you found it interesting.
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Hi John,
I've done several tests today with live numbers using the variation rules and the news isn't so good...
There were 2 strings of 5 and 6 back to back losers resulting in -18 and -24 respectively. Those losing runs could continue... If I'd been playing for real I would have been disappointed at losing so badly.
I do not think random can be beaten this way and I think it more luck than anything else with my earlier few tests that showed small profits. Anyway, the upshot is I now propose to cancel further testing on the variation and stop wasting my time on it. (the variation idea, that is)
Cheers,
A.

PS. Maybe it's better to bet for a MATCH (1 dozen bet) something like with the reverse code 6 idea:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6875.0
However, even with that and starting after 3 virtual non-matches I've gone over 15 steps without a winning match... That is what can happen and what you are up against!
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

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