Re: Programming for roulette

[atlantis]

Roulette Xtreme, maybe?

link:://uxsoftware.com/pages/index.html

A.

[mr.ore]

Thinbasic:
License   Freeware / Proprietary

I would not recommend learning language with proprietary license, which is not either backed by a big company or open source community. Well, it seems small, so it does not matter. The disadvantage there is that you can't know, that after five years you would still be using it. With general purpose mainstream language you can be pretty sure of your time investment.

On the other hand, it cannot hurt, I have also had to play with languages like lisp, awk, bash, python, even prolog or squeak. You just don't stay with them. That thinbasic is at least able to use dlls and COM objects, so it can be used to some extend, but anything today can call functions from dll, even assembler. Would not be still better learn C# or Java? I do not use it, I program in C++,  but if I wanted to do GUI applications quickly, than those two are good choice (or learn QT, if you know C++).

[mr.ore]

You should read this thread on VLS:

link:://vlsroulette.com/roulette-coding-zone/making-an-exe/

it is dealing with the same problem like this one.

[mr.ore]

Rather than Thinbasic, this another basic seems better for the purposes of roulette programming: link:://:.autoitscript.com/autoit3/index.shtml

AutoIt v3 is a freeware BASIC-like scripting language designed for automating the Windows GUI and general scripting. It uses a combination of simulated keystrokes, mouse movement and window/control manipulation in order to automate tasks in a way not possible or reliable with other languages (e.g. VBScript and SendKeys). AutoIt is also very small, self-contained and will run on all versions of Windows out-of-the-box with no annoying "runtimes" required!

It would be better for scripting a bot than Thinbasic.

[VLS]

I want to code just for roulette propose
[...]
What program you advice me?

Alfonso, use Visual Basic.NET and you wonââ,¬â,,¢t regret it.

Despite having the word ââ,¬Å"Basicââ,¬Â on its name, you can pretty much do everything in windows with it, including the ââ,¬Å"advancedââ,¬Â stuff.

For you to have an idea on how much it can do, only a few things C# can do that VB.NET canââ,¬â,,¢t (which the most people wouldnââ,¬â,,¢t miss at all).



I won't even go into the debate on which language is most powerful. Languages are tools; you can't use JavaScript for making an operative system, and you can't use Assembler for making a dynamic webpage. You must pick the right tool for the task according to the requirements, and in this case the requirements are:

- Free
- Widely supported
- Easy for beginners

And Visual Basic.NET fits.

If Alfonso would be asking what is the best language to get paid more as a profressional programmer in 2010 I would be recommending C# or any other of the "higher salary" languages, Java et al, but right now we have a beginner who wants to make his first programs, let's let him do VB.NET

[mr.ore]

Free version of Visual Studio is on MS web, have not tested yet though, as a Linux user there is not much I can do.

link:://:.microsoft.com/express/windows/

[ThomasGrant]

Hello Victor

I want to learn coding for so long, but never knew where to start
Can you please indicate me some program to start and some tutorials?
Thanks in advance

Regards,
Afonso

Well, I did a few tutorials on RSS Pro.
That uses Pascal and Basic.

I sent Victor a copy.
He finally got it working.

Very easy to code in. RSS Pro.

[VLS]

Well, I did a few tutorials on RSS Pro.
That uses Pascal and Basic.

I sent Victor a copy.
He finally got it working.

Very easy to code in. RSS Pro.

Easy indeed, but it is propietary (that is the only major flaw I could find).

A very sweet and compact IDE, which deserves the "Thumbs up"

RSS pro costs $100+ bucks. There are superior (and free) alternatives, yet -if you ask me- the RSS option is like a small mountain house where everything is handy because it is small and it's warm and cozy once you get used to it

[ThomasGrant]

A very sweet and compact IDE, which deserves the "Thumbs up"

Plus it is fairly cheap.
Compared to other programming languages out there.
Apparently it only costs $150.
I think if you send an email to the admin.
And just ask for RSS Pro.
He may assist you.
Who knows.

link:://:.money-maker-machine.com/forum/index.php?referredby=73

[Mistarlupo]

Plus it is fairly cheap.
Compared to other programming languages out there.
Apparently it only costs $150.

What do you mean by "compared to other programming languages out there"?

$150 is far from "cheap".

[ThomasGrant]

Another good thing about RSS Pro.
Is that it already has the commands to place bets and spin the wheel.

Take a look at just some of them.

This is only good for playtech.
Or you can get a version for RealTime Gaming.
Apparently he wants to bring out one for Live Tables.
But I have no idea when that will be.

[ThomasGrant]

What do you mean by "compared to other programming languages out there"?

$150 is far from "cheap".

Ohh...

Well, then I made a mistake then.
Not sure what other programming languages are out there and how much they cost.

Ok, I just did a search for Delphi.
link:://store.embarcadero.com/store?Action=DisplayCategoryProductListPage&SiteID=borland&Locale=en_AU&Env=BASE&categoryID=10742100

Embarcadero RAD Studio XE Architect New User Download             $5,589.00 AUD

So compared to Delphi.
I would say RSS Pro for $150 is very cheap indeed.

[VLS]

Hehe, Thomas, the problem is when compared to FREE [attachimg=#] [attachimg=#]

[Mistarlupo]

Well, I wouldn't recommend paying for a development suite. Especially beginners.

[mr.ore]

Every computer with Windows can legally download and install .NET redistributable or SDK, and then have command line compiler of C#, Visual Basic .NET and maybe few other tools. Anyone can download Visual Studio Express, or if he does not like, some lighter IDE like Sharp Develop. That is for free.

Anyone can download NetBeans and start programming in Java, even there is GUI designer, and you can create some application even without programming, well it would not do anything, only window with buttons and textboxes, but it is also free.

GCC compiler is also free for those who want program in C/C++, they can also use QT library for GUI, which Nokia finally released under LGPL license.

Very powerful combination Apache+PHP+MySQL is also free, and with a good text editor like kate or PSPad very comfortable.

Javascript works everywhere, in any browser.

There are many other free variants, like python, ruby, lua and so on. Well, lua is also recommended for beginners, it is free and often used as a scripting language for AI in computer games. It's license is free enough that you can include it into your proprietary code, so learing it is not a waste of time.