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Re: Programming for roulette

Started by VLS, Aug 29, 12:01 PM 2010

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ThomasGrant

Ahh free software.

Nice to have.

Sure free is good.

Just not as good as some of the things that you can pay for.
Well, that is just my opinion.

I don't know how to program in java.
I can do html. Taught my self.

What I meant to say is, that RSS Pro is affordable.
Cheap is the wrong word.

Affordable is a better word.

Another bonus, is that it is fairly easy to use.

But there are other software that can probably do something similar.
And for free. If you find something similar and for free.
Let me know.

"What we do in life, echoes in eternity"

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Bayes

The old maxim that "you get what you pay for" doesn't really fit regarding a lot of modern software. Some of the best software in the world is open source (and free). Think of Mac OSX (which is built on FreeBSD) and Linux (90% of the worlds supercomputers use it). Free programming languages like Python and Ruby are used by Google, NASA, even Microsoft.

QuoteThe main advantage for business is that open source is a good way for business to achieve greater penetration of the market. Companies that offer open source software are able to establish an industry standard and, thus, gain competitive advantage. It has also helped build developer loyalty as developers feel empowered and have a sense of ownership of the end product[31]. Moreover less costs of marketing and logistical services are needed for OSS. It also helps companies to keep abreast of all technology developments. It is a good tool to promote a company's image, including its commercial products[32]. The OSS development approach has helped produce reliable, high quality software quickly and inexpensively. Besides, it offers the potential for a more flexible technology and quicker innovation. It is said to be more reliable since it typically has thousands of independent programmers testing and fixing bugs of the software. It is flexible because modular systems allow programmers to build custom interfaces, or add new abilities to it and it is innovative since open source programs are the product of collaboration among a large number of different programmers. The mix of divergent perspectives, corporate objectives, and personal goals speeds up innovation[33]. Moreover free software can be developed in accord with purely technical requirements. It does not require to think about commercial pressure that often degrades the quality of the software. Commercial pressures make traditional software developers pay more attention to customers' requirements than to security requirements, since such features are somewhat invisible to the customer[34].
For a newbie, it would be crazy to pay for any programming language or IDE until you've discovered that you can actually do it. Statistics show that between 30% and 60% of students on CS courses fail their first programming course, and about 20% of people will NEVER "get it".

An advantage of something like Python is that it has an interactive mode. You can type instructions into the console and get immediate feedback. This is great for learning and just playing around with code to see what happens.

by the way, Python has nothing to do with the snake, the designer named it Python because he was a big fan of "Monty Python".
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

ThomasGrant

Do you have any links for Python?
Not monty python. But Python src or language.
I like Monty python to.
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Bayes

Download Python here - link:://:.python.org/

There are tutorials at the main site, but loads more around, just Google "python tutorial".
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

atlantis

Hi Mr Ore,

I mentioned thinbasic because it's a free alternative. Victor was talking about BASIC languages and I know this is a good one. I've used AMOS and AmigaBasic on Amiga platform, Liberty Basic, IBasic and looked at others too.
I do not think I would use it though to code a roulette program - but that's not say it could not be done - It could.
But I've been using thinbasic for about 5 years on my personal free interactive fiction project for Windows:
link:://tab.thinbasic.com/

Bye,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

ThomasGrant

Quote from: atlantis on Sep 02, 03:56 AM 2010
Hi Mr Ore,

I mentioned thinbasic because it's a free alternative. Victor was talking about BASIC languages and I know this is a good one. I've used AMOS and AmigaBasic on Amiga platform, Liberty Basic, IBasic and looked at others too.
I do not think I would use it though to code a roulette program - but that's not say it could not be done - It could.
But I've been using thinbasic for about 5 years on my personal free interactive fiction project for Windows:
link:://tab.thinbasic.com/

Bye,
A.

Ohh my gosh.
Some one else that has an Amiga.
I had, as in past tense, an Amiga. Amiga 1000
Loved it.
Dpaint. CanDo
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ThomasGrant

Quote from: Bayes on Sep 02, 03:56 AM 2010
Download Python here - link:://:.python.org/

There are tutorials at the main site, but loads more around, just Google "python tutorial".

Thanks...

Just had a look at the website.
Reading it.

Found out about Python 3.
Looked at the code.

QuotePrint Is A FunctionÃ,¶

The print statement has been replaced with a print() function, with keyword arguments to replace most of the special syntax of the old print statement (PEP 3105). Examples:

Old: print "The answer is", 2*2
New: print("The answer is", 2*2)

Old: print x,           # Trailing comma suppresses newline
New: print(x, end=" ")  # Appends a space instead of a newline

Old: print              # Prints a newline
New: print()            # You must call the function!

Old: print >>sys.stderr, "fatal error"
New: print("fatal error", file=sys.stderr)

Old: print (x, y)       # prints repr((x, y))
New: print((x, y))      # Not the same as print(x, y)!


Looks just like pascal.

So I will stick with working with pascal for now.
There is a great deal of support for it on the net.

Thanks anyway.
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity"

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A3on

Quote from: VLS on Sep 01, 05:26 PM 2010
Alfonso, use Visual Basic.NET and you wonââ,¬â,,¢t regret it.

Despite having the word ââ,¬Å"Basicââ,¬Â on its name, you can pretty much do everything in windows with it, including the ââ,¬Å"advancedââ,¬Â stuff.

For you to have an idea on how much it can do, only a few things C# can do that VB.NET canââ,¬â,,¢t (which the most people wouldnââ,¬â,,¢t miss at all).




I won't even go into the debate on which language is most powerful. Languages are tools; you can't use JavaScript for making an operative system, and you can't use Assembler for making a dynamic webpage. You must pick the right tool for the task according to the requirements, and in this case the requirements are:

- Free
- Widely supported
- Easy for beginners

And Visual Basic.NET fits.

If Alfonso would be asking what is the best language to get paid more as a profressional programmer in 2010 I would be recommending C# or any other of the "higher salary" languages, Java et al, but right now we have a beginner who wants to make his first programs, let's let him do VB.NET :)


Dear Victor, thanks for the usefull information :)
I think I will stick with visual basic then. I will download it and try to found some tutorials.
Maybe soon I can make my own roulette tests  :thumbsup:

Really thanks
Best regards,
Afonso

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