Authors System

[RouletteGhost]

I just read this thoroughly in Monte Carlo Anecdotes

question for those who use this method

progression: 1, 2, 3, 6

bets:

bet 1-same as last
bet 2-opposite of last
bet 3-same as last
bet 4-opposite of last

correct?

so if red shows your next bet is red. if black shows then your next bet is red.

sometimes i play baccarat. i will try this on that

[GLC]

I just read this thoroughly in Monte Carlo Anecdotes

question for those who use this method

progression: 1, 2, 3, 6

bets:

bet 1-same as last
bet 2-opposite of last
bet 3-same as last
bet 4-opposite of last

correct?

so if red shows your next bet is red. if black shows then your next bet is red.

sometimes i play baccarat. i will try this on that

You're correct as long as you realize that you only increase the next bet if you lose.  This is not like the forced win progression.

Another option that doesn't make any difference in the results is after a win, you always start by betting the Same as last.  If you list out the 8 possibilities, you will see that you break even except for the zero.  This is the result of all mechanical bet selections.

Cheers,
GLC

[RouletteGhost]

Preliminary testing on black red is solid

I can adapt this to 3 double streets

Bet 1- most 3 recent
Bet 2- opposite of 3 most recent
Bet 3- most 3 recent
Bet 4- opposite of most 3 recent

[RouletteGhost]

Does anyone see success this way?

[GLC]

Does anyone see success this way?

RGhost,

Please explain exactly what you mean by "see success".

I see success using this method.  My success is defined as going to the casino with $50 for some recreation.  $50 is enough for a quarter airball machine.  I usually have about 2 hours to kill.  Of course I rarely play this method since I have others I like to play more.  They're no better than this method.  It's just that I like playing them better.

My goal when playing this system is to play for 2 hours or until I lose $50 or win $50.  Most of the time the 2 hours are what ends my trip.  Meaning, I neither lose nor win $50.  Overall, I am a loser in real play using this system.

If you're expecting this system to win continuously, it will only happen if you're lucky.  After all this is a modified martingale as are all progressions that reset back to the beginning after each win.

So, my system where I add 1 unit to the bet size after each loss and reset to the beginning after each win is a modified martingale.  It's very stable because I wait until I've seen 3 or 4 in a row of an even chance and then I start betting 1, if lose, 2, if lose, 3, if lose, 4, if win reset to 1.

I sometimes use a progression for recovery.  So if I lose on the 5 unit bet or higher on the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 etc... line, I reset to 2 instead of 1.  That means I play 2, if lose, 4, if lose, 6, if lose, 8 etc...  If I lose on the 10 or higher bet at this level, I reset to 3 instead of 2 or 1.  At 3 my bets are 3 - 6 - 9-12-15 etc...

GLC

GLC

[RouletteGhost]

thanks george

the author of that book seemed to believe his "authors system" was one of the best

[rouletteKEY]

I sometimes use a progression for recovery.  So if I lose on the 5 unit bet or higher on the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 etc... line, I reset to 2 instead of 1.  That means I play 2, if lose, 4, if lose, 6, if lose, 8 etc...  If I lose on the 10 or higher bet at this level, I reset to 3 instead of 2 or 1.  At 3 my bets are 3 - 6 - 9-12-15 etc...

GLC

GLC

I don't personally play EC's but I use this same type of "staging" on progressions with inside number methods and it works well there

[GLC]

It should be noted that this book was written in the early part of the 1900's making it about 100 years old.  From reading it we see that things haven't changed that much as far as systems go.

The author suggests that we risk 36 chips to gain 10 chips.  Winning 10 chips is a very doable thing with this system.  Losing 36 is also doable.  But not so often as winning 10 chips.

It's interesting that he is trying to indicate that the dreaded two's that we hit on the wrong step which causes us to lose every bet until they break or we skip a step to get in step with them is rarer than a run of 4 Reds or Blacks.  That's a mis-statement on his part.  The fact is it is equally as likely to encounter one as the other.  Any mechanical bet selection for even chances works the same with this system.

It's a misperception I know, but I have had better luck waiting until I get 4 Reds or Blacks or Evens or Odds or Highs or Lows in a row and then bet against the run continuing.  It takes a run of 8 in a row to defeat you and you get plenty of playing opportunities tracking all 6 e.c.s.  I can only attribute winning to luck because mathematically there should be no advantage gained by waiting else we'd have the holy grail and it doesn't take too long to realize that we don't have it here.

By taking 50 units to the casino and playing 1-2-4-8, I've never lost all 50 units.  I'd have to not start out winning on any of the 4 attacks possible with 50 units and I always win enough to at least cover the extra 10 units plus more.

I don't use the author's 1-2-3-6 progression because it doesn't give you any advantage to do so.  You might as well play a standard 4 step marty so you win 1 unit on every win.  The additional wins make up for the 3 extra units you lose on 4 losses in a row.  If you have the bank roll, you could even play 1-3-7-15, the Grand Marty for more rapid action.  A little extra investment, but the additional winnings balance everything out and the action is faster.

As always, to each his own.

GLC

[RouletteGhost]

Thanks george

So with authors system if you wait for a streak of 4 then begin it is hard to be defeated

[rouletteKEY]

It's a misperception I know, but I have had better luck waiting until I get 4 Reds or Blacks or Evens or Odds or Highs or Lows in a row and then bet against the run continuing.  It takes a run of 8 in a row to defeat you and you get plenty of playing opportunities tracking all 6 e.c.s.  I can only attribute winning to luck because mathematically there should be no advantage gained by waiting else we'd have the holy grail and it doesn't take too long to realize that we don't have it here.

By taking 50 units to the casino and playing 1-2-4-8, I've never lost all 50 units.  I'd have to not start out winning on any of the 4 attacks possible with 50 units and I always win enough to at least cover the extra 10 units plus more.

I don't use the author's 1-2-3-6 progression because it doesn't give you any advantage to do so.  You might as well play a standard 4 step marty so you win 1 unit on every win.  The additional wins make up for the 3 extra units you lose on 4 losses in a row.  If you have the bank roll, you could even play 1-3-7-15, the Grand Marty for more rapid action.  A little extra investment, but the additional winnings balance everything out and the action is faster.

A possible offset (I don't want to say insurance as it would be a separate stand-alone bet looking to make it's own profit) that could take some of the edge off a stiffer progression like a Grand on the break the streak play... would be to play the 4 number bet that triggered the bet.  It seems that the streak continues a decent amount of time (losing the break the streak EC bet) with a repeat of one of the four original numbers. 

You could play the four numbers as a stand-alone 4 spin bet...or you could abandon it as soon as you win the EC and pick it up again on the next attack. 

If you had the bankroll...

Play a Grand Martingale as George references and if you lose it pick up the next attack at 10-30-70-150 if your testing shows 2 in a row are highly unlikely and get back a chunk of the preceding EC loss.  It obviously opens you up to a catastrophic loss if you do lose two in a row...it is gambling after all.  If the 70-150 is bad against table limit or bankroll maybe stay with the Grand but backup to the 7 level to recommence.  Then play the 4 number bet with a fibo for the real money.  My fibo on a four number bet is 1u for 6 spins (24 total units bet)...then 2 for 3 (24 more)...3 for 3 (36 more)...5 for 3 more...etc.  back 2 stages on a win.

This is of course a... play it to win it strategy... on the money management.  You need to get out of the casino once you get to your number.  It's not a play for everyone for sure.

It will leave you licking your wounds from time to time but if you actually left with your previous winnings you should be okay...if you hung around after getting your wins and ended up giving some or all of it back it will only make you lose that much more that much faster...just sayin'

[RouletteGhost]

The authors system wins a lot of the time. Wonder why noone talks about it. Its a good strategy

36 units Roulette key?  Its 1 2 3 6 thats 12 units

[rouletteKEY]

ummmm    did you speed read the number 36 out of my reply and then just go with that?

I wasn't even referring to the main bet when I referenced 36units...

If it would be easier you can just delete my posts to the thread to end the confusion

[RouletteGhost]

no i read your post

im just confused as to why you said risk 36 units

nevermind it was directed to GLC who will take it more nicely then you did anyways

[GLC]

no i read your post

im just confused as to why you said risk 36 units

nevermind it was directed to GLC who will take it more nicely then you did anyways

RouletteGhost,  I haven't read the article for a while, but I was thinking that the author suggested using 3 banks of 12 units each to risk winning 10 units.  Of course this isn't written in stone but is a good ratio of win target to stop loss.  Maybe a little high, but not out of reason.

GLC

P.S.  I said that I was doing well playing after a run of 4.  Each person should test to see if they like the system or not.

[RouletteGhost]

its one of the more simpler systems

just to clarify

high...then bet high
low...then bet high
low....then bet low
high...then bet low