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Started by RouletteGhost, Oct 31, 07:18 PM 2014

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RouletteGhost

So you did 5 sets of 4 bets? Same opposite same opposite?

And on what bet selection?

Thanks
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

psimoes

No I just flat bet on 5 decisions. It went like this:

Last two decisions on the marquee were RB. A chop.

RED - No bet.
BLACK - so I will bet 1 unit that the chop continues. Bet RED
BLACK - lost. -1 unit in my pocket. Now I bet 1 for a streak. Bet BLACK
RED - lost again. -2. Bet 1 for the chop. Bet BLACK.
BLACK . WIN! -1. Keep betting on the chop. Bet RED
RED - WIN. Even. Keep betting on the chop. Bet BLACK
BLACK - WIN. +1! That's it for the day.

I haven't tried the 1111-2222-3333 yet. This bet selection looks good enough for flat betting and to win at least one unit a day. Although I reckon. without progressions if I step in on the wrong foot it can also turn into a long and troubled journey.

[Math+1] beats a Math game

atlantis

QuoteMaybe even strings of 5 to 7 would be better than 4

I too like the idea of using longer "strings" of unit betting also

I like to bet 2 EC's: RB and OE at roulette.

If RB or BR singles is showing then I bet for chop to continue.
If RBB or BRR is showing then I bet for sequence to end.

If OE or EO singles is showing then I bet for chop to continue.
If OEE or EOO is showing then I bet for sequence to end.

If RRR, BBB, OOO, or EEE shows no bet on that side until a new single shows up.

You are either betting 1, 2 or NONE each spin of the wheel.

33B
21R -             bet 1u on B
23R - L-1        bet 1u on B
20B - W+1      bet 1u on R; bet 1u on O
11B - W+0      bet 1u on R; bet 1u on E
4B   - W+0      bet 1u on O
13B - W+1      bet 1u on E
20B - W+1      bet 1u on O
5R  -  W+1      bet 1u on B; bet 1u on E
25R -  L-2       bet 1u on B; Bet 1u on E
27R -  L-2       no bet
6B                  bet 1u on R; 1u on O
19R    W+2     bet 1u on B; 1u on E........

Profit= +1

Increase bets +1 on an EC bet string only if it is in minus after the 6 (or 7) bets on that side.

A.                 
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

RouletteGhost

thanks for the feedback guys

very soon I will test the original method in a B and M as well as the other variation: Same until lose then opposite until lose etc

the examples you guys gave are a bit different, but if you are winning thats all that matters
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

GLC

The following is nothing new, but I thought I'd insert it here as a good bet method to consider.  It is the original Penthouse presentation for single dozens but as you will see it can be used just as well for even chances.

The Penthouse Betting Strategy
The bet line is…1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3,4,4,4,5,5,5,6,6,6,7,7,7,8,8,8, etc…
The first bet of the series is 1unit until you lose. You then move up the series one bet at a time until you win. When you win you circle the bet (since I don’t know how to circle a number with this word processor I will underline the winning bet) and cross off the two most recent losses in your series. Your next bet becomes the next one due in your new shortened series.
For example let's say you encountered the following run of decisions ...
L, L, L, W, L, L, L, L, L, W, W, L, W.
Your series after the first win would look like this ... 1 1 1 2
Here you can see that you have circled your first winner and crossed of your two most recent losses.
The next bet due in your series is now the second 1. After your second win your series would look like this ... 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 3
Here you can see that you have circled your second winner and again crossed of your two most recent losses. The next bet due in your series is now the second 2.  After your third win your series would look like this ... 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 3 2
Here you can see that you have circled your third winner and again crossed of your two most recent losses. The next bet due in your series is now the third 1. After your fourth win your series would look like this ...
1 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 3 2 1 2
Here you can see that you have circled your fourth winner and again crossed off your two most recent losses the next bet due in your series is now the second 1.

That’s how the Penthouse is played for single dozens.  It’s can be stretched for less aggressiveness (1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 6) or compressed for more aggressiveness (1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 7 7 8 8 ).  Or, it can start out slow and skip numbers for more recovery power (also more risk) 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 4 4 4 5 5 5 7 7 7 9 9 9 11 11 11 1 13 13 13 15 15 15 18 18 18 21 21 21 24 24 24 etc.  For single dozens you always circle your winner and cross off the last 2 losses then bet the new next number in the sequence.

The Penthouse can be used for any bet location.  For example a Penthouse for the lines is:  1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 etc…  Just circle your winner and cross off the last 5 losing bets then the next bet will be the new number in the shortened sequence.  Perfectly logical.

If you like single numbers just use 36 each 1’s, then 36 each 2’s, then 36 each 3’s etc…  Circle every win and cross off the last 35 losing bets and continue with the next number in the shortened line.

One thing this does is you can reach a new high bank amount without having to cross off all the numbers in your line all the way back to the first 1.  As a matter of fact, you will always reach a new high bank balance before getting back to the first 1.

The safest way is to play until you get back to even or +1 and then restart a new line.  You can also play until you reach a win target but this will add more risk regarding the size of your bets.  It will also shorten your playing time because you will reach your win target sooner by playing the line out rather than starting over after each win of +1.

Another example is Gr8Players progression for even chances: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 .  You circle the winning bet and cross off the last losing bet then your next bet will be the next bet in the shortened sequence.

One final word of reminder.  You don’t have a bet line written out before you start playing.  You write down your next bet in the line as you need it.  So every session or reset starts with a single 1 written down.  This is your first bet.

There’s nothing new here, just repost for emphasis on it’s value.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

RouletteGhost

thanks GLC

every play decision before last?

just played an entire baccarat shoe with a martingale playing decision before last and it was terrific

perhaps just luck
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

GLC

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 28, 09:40 AM 2014
thanks GLC

every play decision before last?

just played an entire baccarat shoe with a martingale playing decision before last and it was terrific

perhaps just luck

RG,  Decision before Last is one of the most popular bet selection methods.   You know the dangers of a martingale progression so no need to go there.

Decision before last, follow the last, opposite the last, same opposite same opposite, lose 2 then switch, bet Red only, bet black only, etc... all of these are the same in the long run.  They do well on some sequences and not so good on other sequences.  If you're going to play for the long run, might just as well pick an even chance and always bet on it for the rest of your life.

My favorite is follow the last until you have 2 losses then switch to opposite the last.  If you get BRRBB switch to playing for 2  2  2  2  2 .  The reason I do this is to keep me from going crazy when I bet on Red only and Black is hitting 2 to 1 over Red all evening.  I know that the next visit Red could be hitting 2 to 1 over Black and I'll be rejoicing.  But, I like following the trends.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

psimoes

Chops of two as in PP BB PP BB PP are what kills it. They can happen more often than we'd expect.

I wasn't so lucky yesterday in my first time at Celtic testing the Author's variation on roulette. I started out with 1000, flat betting 50 and won 600. Slowly I almost doubled the bank. I went "Wow! Imagine if that was real money!" Later on another session I used the Martingale for a quicker buck and went from 1600 to 0 in a few spins. Long runs of two are a real trouble for this system to succeed. And yep, I went  "Auch! Imagine if that was real money!"
[Math+1] beats a Math game

psimoes

Quote from: GLC on Nov 28, 02:44 PM 2014
Decision before last, follow the last, opposite the last, same opposite same opposite, lose 2 then switch, bet Red only, bet black only, etc... all of these are the same in the long run.  They do well on some sequences and not so good on other sequences.  If you're going to play for the long run, might just as well pick an even chance and always bet on it for the rest of your life.

Only after playing for ten months I realized this truth. A fixed set of rules will not work against something that is always on the move. And the zeroes are there to make it worse. There's some saying "no matter how you stir it...", or something...

[Math+1] beats a Math game

GLC

There's always something that kills it.  And, for every mechanical bet selection method the "something" that kills it is just as bad as the "something" that kills all the others.  If I were going to play something that resembles a martingale, I'd play the following:

If lose         Bet           If win
-1                1               +1
-3                2               +1
-7                4               +1
-15              8                +1
-28              13              -2
-51              23              -5
-92              41              -10
-164            72              -20
-293           129             -35
-536           243             -50

That's it.  As you can see the more losses in a row you have after the 1st 4 bets, you lose units on a win.  If you lose 10 bets in a row, you will lose 536 units.  If you lose 9 bets in a row you will only lose 50 units after winning the 10th bet.  That's the price you must pay to not lose 1,023 units on 10 losses of a standard martingale.

Try it.  You might find it playable.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

psimoes

All EC fixed methods have their Nemesis, right? For FTL is a run of RBRBRB long enough to destroy a progression or your nerves. For DBL it's RBBRRBB. For S/O it's RBBRRBB as well, but only for half of the time. Anyone who read the book knows it. If last decision is B, RBBRRBB may kill you. If it's R, RBBRRBB feels like winning the lottery.

Now picture this: you're driving away in your car, you've reached a few crossroads, always green lights, you're moving on without stopping, everything's good. So far, an easy trip. Suddenly there's a large truck coming from your left at high speed, no brakes. You see it coming. What does common sense tell you?
I use the above example because yesterday the damned outcomes hit me like a truck. I had decided not to stop because I sticked to the rules and was too confident on my bankroll and my luck.
Once you identify your nemesis, just stop at first sight and let it pass. Wait a bit more, it could be carrying a trailer.
There's no such thing as being overly cautious in a game of negative expectation. Even if you'd survive the accident you'd still have to buy a new car.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

psimoes

Quote from: psimoes on Nov 28, 06:16 PM 2014
All EC fixed methods have their Nemesis, right? For FTL is a run of RBRBRB long enough to destroy a progression or your nerves. For DBL it's RBBRRBB. For S/O it's RBBRRBB as well, but only for half of the time. Anyone who read the book knows it. If last decision is B, RBBRRBB may kill you. If it's R, RBBRRBB feels like winning the lottery.

Now picture this: you're driving away in your car, you've reached a few crossroads, always green lights, you're moving on without stopping, everything's good. So far, an easy trip. Suddenly there's a large truck coming from your left at high speed, no brakes. You see it coming. What does common sense tell you?
I use the above example because yesterday the damned outcomes hit me like a truck. I had decided not to stop because I sticked to the rules and was too confident on my bankroll and my luck.
Once you identify your nemesis, just stop at first sight and let it pass. Wait a bit more, it could be carrying a trailer.
There's no such thing as being overly cautious in a game of negative expectation. Even if you'd survive the accident you'd still have to buy a new car.

Edit - GLC, I see you posted a reply while I was typing. I decided to post mine anyway. I write this so you know it's not directly adressed at you, because of the tone. It's just food for thought. By the timelapse between our replies I see that I take too long to elaborate a text thatÅ› not in my native language.

BTW thanks for the progression. A new way of thinking. Better lose 50 units than 1024 that's for sure. The idea of losing 536 units is still kinda scary, though.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

RouletteGhost

theres also this

on a win you let the original bet plus winnings ride

all you have to do it manage to win 2 times in a row within 12 decisions and you are a WINNER

move up the ladder on a loss, on a win LET IT RIDE

i believe on craps this may be ALMOST full proof

just bet the pass line each time you are sure to win 2 times in a row within 12 decisions?

sounds easy doesnt it

see pic
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

psimoes

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 28, 07:48 PM 2014
theres also this

on a win you let the original bet plus winnings ride

all you have to do it manage to win 2 times in a row within 12 decisions and you are a WINNER

move up the ladder on a loss, on a win LET IT RIDE

[...]

It reminds of single dozen parlays.  If you win 2 times in a row on a single dozen, by parlaying the winnings you profit 8 units.
But I used to bet 1 unit for 8 times.The sooner you win the parlay the more profit you make. If you only win the parlay by the 8th spin you brake even. If you lose the 8th, you start betting 2 units until the 16th spin and so on.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

Rewster88

I could be mistaking but 2 times in row on even chance is not enough to recover full? And winning a 1/3 chance 2 times in a row could be hard sometimes? Or am i missing something here?

Grtz r

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