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Re: Deja Vu?
Mar 02, 12:38 PM 2019
A new one (so THEY say) from them today:

"POWER 9 PROGRESSION"

This is the same as already released:

"THE PACKER PROGRESSION"

which you can read/download free online :)

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Re: Deja Vu?
Mar 09, 03:51 PM 2019
"New" From Silverthorne and Gamblers Bookcase @$99:

RATIO-BET ROULETTE

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Turn Any Roulette Game Into a Source of Consistent Jackpot Wins!

Turn $15 into $25,000 in Five Hours!

Ratio-Bet Roulette turns the game of roulette upside down!

Ratio Bets Give a Clear Advantage to the Player!

Every Bet Has Five Ways to Win With Only Three Ways to Lose!

In long-term testing, this system had an amazing 94.74% Win Rate!

This has been previously released as

JACKPOT ROULETTE!

It is exactly the same system!

Also:

TRIPLE WIN ROULETTE

It is exactly the same system!

If you want to be bothered to read then you can type in google search box:

triple win roulette pdf

Have a nice day
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Re: Deja Vu?
Mar 23, 03:31 AM 2019
New from Gambler's Bookcase is:
CORNER-BET ROULETTE  @ $99

I've got that strange feeling that I've seen this before... Another "deja vu" moment! :)

Why - it is only EXACTLY the same as their previously released:

SHARPSHOOTER ROULETTE
SUPER QUADS ROULETTE

You can read it online or download it free to try yourself by searching for:

"silverthorne sharpshooter roulette"

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Re: Deja Vu?
Apr 09, 08:21 AM 2019
"COMPLETE-BET ROULETTE" @$99

This is their latest release.

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In 2008, Mike Ashley, English Entrepreneur, won £1.3 million ($1,700,000 US Dollars) with the Roulette Complete Bet!

Now You Can Win as Much as $2,880 in Single Plays Making $5 Bets Using an Ingenious New Version of his Famous "Complete Bet!"

What’s More, Unlike Ashley’s Complete Bet which was Highly Risky, the Improved Complete Bet is a "Safe and Sane Way to Play"

This is same as their

"ROULETTE STRIKE STRATEGY"

Search for: roulette strike strategy pdf
to read or download FREE.

It is a column + DS bet

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Re: Deja Vu?
Apr 09, 11:00 AM 2019
Needs a £10,000 bankroll to play at casinos with £25 minimum outside bets  :ooh:

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Re: Deja Vu?
Apr 18, 04:15 PM 2019
"THE ROMMEL PROGRESSION" @$99.97

is NEW from GamblersBookcase!

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I just got off the phone with Frank S.  He gave his final “okay” to release what may be the most solid gambling system ever created!

Frank is one of the premier winning gamblers in the world.

I thought I had the deal wrapped up to release Frank’s secret winning strategy last week.

Then Frank started getting cold feet.

He put more conditions on the release of his time-proven casino beating system.

I could almost feel Frank crumbling by the day.

He emailed me yesterday morning and told me he had changed his mind about releasing his strategy.

Finally, at 11:30 last night, Frank agreed to a limited release of his remarkable winning system.

 This is the remarkable strategy patterned after Erwin Rommel, the Desert Fox’s, extraordinary campaign in North Africa in World War 11 which thwarted the much larger Allied Army.

Rommel’s favorite tactic was the “cut and thrust maneuver,” which Frank S. adopted to playing roulette. Later he expanded Rommel’s remarkable strategy to the games of craps, baccarat and even blackjack.


BUT - - just wait a minute  - - What is this, I find....???????????/

"THE STEARN STRATEGY"

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I just got off the phone with George Stearn.  He gave his final “okay” to release what may be the most solid gambling system ever created!

George is one of the premier winning gamblers in the world.

I thought I had the deal wrapped up to release George’s secret winning strategy last week.

Then George started getting cold feet.

He put more conditions on the release of his time-proven casino beating system.

I could almost feel George crumbling by the day.

He emailed me yesterday morning and told me he had changed his mind about releasing his strategy.

Finally, at 11:30 last night, George agreed to a limited release of his remarkable winning system.

This Is The Same Strategy George Has Successfully Used For Twenty Years To Beat The Casinos!

They are both THE SAME but with different originators and backstories!
and the testimonials (if at all true) are the same and from the same users on both sites!

How absolutely typical of them!

Anyhow read or download the Stearn Strategy for FREE. Just google it.

Take care and don't get fooled by them!

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Re: Deja Vu?
Apr 20, 03:55 AM 2019
I had a look at the Stearn/Rommel Strategy. It's quite interesting; combines slow Martingale with Paroli element.

Bottom line is it loses long term, but to read the system pdf, it's presented as a way to make regular income in quite a dishonest fashion.

It limits the loss on Martingale type lines on an even chance type bet.

Eg 5,5,5,10,10,20,20,40,40

A nine step progression capital 155 units.

Chances of losing progression is about 1/10 for an expected loss of 15.5 units

Expected value of win from a progression play is more difficult to work out due to paroli manoeuvres, but I think it is about 13 units.

So 9/10 times post a small win. On the 1/10  time, lose the line.

If anyone is interested, I can do a full analysis on it. The system can be explained in a couple of pages but the ebook is padded out to a massive 130 pages with all kinds of cut and paste waffle about how to play Craps/Roulette  in a detailed way, or advice on tipping, rude dealers, and various casino etiquette recommendations.

Apparently all Silverthorne systems are like this. A few pages of content and massively padded out with 100s pages of generic casino advice  :twisted:

I have to say that the Stearn/Rommel concept, while not winning, is interesting. You could easily post wins for quite a while before you lose a line. But the stoploss is well controlled and all built into the system.

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Re: Deja Vu?
Apr 22, 11:16 AM 2019
Hi Firefox,

Some youtube vids of their system by Arch Stanton

The Stearn Strategy v Baccarat:


The Stearn Steategy v Blackjack


Revisiting The Stearn Strategy:


Stearn v Live Dealer:



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Re: Deja Vu?
Apr 22, 11:25 AM 2019
Cheers. I'll take a look!

I analysed the Stearn for 5 5 5 10 10 20 20 40 40  line last night on the back of an envelope.

Against single zero wheel without partage, for each progression, it has an average win expectation of about 11.5 units and a loss expectation of about 13.5  units. So about -2 units expected value of playing progression to a win or loss of the line each time. Loses one time in 11 tries against single zero.

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Re: Deja Vu?
Apr 22, 12:04 PM 2019
Hi Firefox,

Seems like it is simply the ol' "Parlay 31" to me!  1-1-1-2-2-4-4-8-8

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Re: Deja Vu?
Apr 22, 01:00 PM 2019
I'm pretty sure it is, he recommends that line as well. There's no calculation of any probabilities or of any expectations in the pdf.

Just a glib statement that you should win 40 units an hour playing the 5 5 5 series. This is supposed to factor in the times you lose the whole line of 155!

The only time you stand a chance for a while is getting really lucky and win the 6th or 8th bets on the series which carry big profits.

His other main recommendation is playing with a lady friend on different chances each, for twice as much "profit"  :twisted:

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Re: Deja Vu?
Apr 22, 01:47 PM 2019
He certainly has a style of writing that suggests he probably has a good book or two in him.

Unfortunately for him he hasn't realised that all his systems have been available to download for free for several years already now as he never put any pay wall on the section of his website where the PDF's are hosted!

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Re: Deja Vu?
Apr 22, 02:30 PM 2019
Agree about the style. Definitely got the knack of writing and definitely a ladies man!

He must realise he's writing a load of crap about it winning though and probably knows it's done the rounds before. Part of the big sell I guess.

It's not that it's a bad system. It could be fun like many positive progressions, and the doubling aspect plus stoploss well controlled.

But I wonder just how many unfortunate souls payed $120 for it , thought they could win $40 an hour, and sadly came back down to earth after they'd lost a few hundred.

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Re: Deja Vu?
Apr 24, 11:36 AM 2019
And so another "new" one comes!

THE KARAS SYSTEM

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From 1992 to 1995 Archie Karas, (born Anargyros Nicholas Karabourniotis) American Gambler, Had the Longest Winning Streak in Casino Gambling History!

He Drove to Las Vegas with $50 in December, 1992 and by 1995 Had Won More than $40 Million!

This is far for new!

It is AKA:
The Heisenberg Progression or The Guderian Progression

A 3-street system.

Check online to read or download for free!

Take care and don't get fooled!
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Re: Deja Vu?
May 07, 11:59 AM 2019
"CUBE-BET ROULETTE" was released by them on 5th May 2019 @ $99

It is a column bet with up to 2 street bets as well.

Unfortunately is not new!!

Has been released before as:

"DOUBLE CROSS ROULETTE" and covered earlier in the topic.

You can probably search that and download it free.

Take care and don't get fooled by them!

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