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Started by nottophammer, Jan 30, 11:56 AM 2016

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RouletteGhost

I think denzie is on the right track

Wait until you have 2 to 3 repeaters within 13 spins then go in ktf

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

spartanrules

Hi Denzie

I'll wait for 2-3 repeaters then and report back on the results from this.

With casino777 you playing one particular table Denzie.? Thanks


Quote from: denzie on Feb 23, 10:30 AM 2016
:.casino777.be 

Can you post the nrs? So we can have a look.

Me personally never play the first spin (11)
I wait 2-3 repeaters on 11-12-13. Then I go in. Didn't got close to busting. I'm already happy with some profit and I stop.

Tomorrow I'll post 100 sessions.   :thumbsup:

Celticknits

Quote from: denzie on Feb 23, 09:41 AM 2016
Here are the numbers as requested Celticknits

-Denzie

S   #   R   Bet   P   Stake   Won   Net   Total
1   19   R   28   1   28      -28   -28
2   12      28   2   56   72   16   -12
3   34      27   1   27   36   9   -3
4   33   R   26   1   26      -26   -29
5   10      26   2   52   72   20   -9
6   33   R   25   1   25      -25   -34
7   8   R   25   2   50      -50   -84
8   23      25   3   75   108   33   -51
9   2      24   2   48   72   24   -27
10   12   R   23   1   23      -23   -50
11   15      23   2   46   72   26   -24
12   4      22   1   22   36   14   -10
13   33   R   21   1   21      -21   -31
14   35      21   2   42   72   30   -1
15   5   R   20   1   20      -20   -21
16   13      20   2   40   72   32   11
17   1      19   1   19   36   17   28-----Consider quitting
18   2   R   18   1   18      -18   10
19   32      18   2   36   72   36   46-----Definite Quitting spot as per KTF rules
20   28   R   17   1   17      -17   29
21   3      17   2   34   72   38   67
22   22   R   16   1   16      -16   51
23   14   R   16   2   32      -32   19
24   0      16   3   48   108   60   79
25   7      15   2   30   72   42   121
26   11      14   1   14   36   22   143
27   32   R   14   2   28      -28   115
28   19   R   14   3   42      -42   73
29   10   R   14   4   56      -56   17
30   18      14   5   70   180   110   127


Am I missing something? :question:

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

RouletteGhost

In a perfect world start with 400. When double bankroll increase to 2 unit size. When double bankroll 4 unit size. Etc. But the world isnt perfect  :yawn:
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

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the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

tuddilue

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 23, 02:52 PM 2016
In a perfect world start with 400. When double bankroll increase to 2 unit size. When double bankroll 4 unit size. Etc. But the world isnt perfect  :yawn:
I think the problem you often do is to increase to fast. I mean it is better to take it slower and increase the bet size slowly. Otherwise it is so easy to blow the bankroll.

Celticknits

Quote from: Celticknits on Feb 23, 01:18 PM 2016
-Denzie

S   #   R   Bet   P   Stake   Won   Net   Total
1   19   R   28   1   28      -28   -28
2   12      28   2   56   72   16   -12
3   34      27   1   27   36   9   -3
4   33   R   26   1   26      -26   -29
5   10      26   2   52   72   20   -9
6   33   R   25   1   25      -25   -34
7   8   R   25   2   50      -50   -84
8   23      25   3   75   108   33   -51
9   2      24   2   48   72   24   -27
10   12   R   23   1   23      -23   -50
11   15      23   2   46   72   26   -24
12   4      22   1   22   36   14   -10
13   33   R   21   1   21      -21   -31
14   35      21   2   42   72   30   -1
15   5   R   20   1   20      -20   -21
16   13      20   2   40   72   32   11
17   1      19   1   19   36   17   28-----Consider quitting
18   2   R   18   1   18      -18   10
19   32      18   2   36   72   36   46-----Definite Quitting spot as per KTF rules
20   28   R   17   1   17      -17   29
21   3      17   2   34   72   38   67
22   22   R   16   1   16      -16   51
23   14   R   16   2   32      -32   19
24   0      16   3   48   108   60   79
25   7      15   2   30   72   42   121
26   11      14   1   14   36   22   143
27   32   R   14   2   28      -28   115
28   19   R   14   3   42      -42   73
29   10   R   14   4   56      -56   17
30   18      14   5   70   180   110   127


Am I missing something? :question:

-Celtic

I did catch one error but that was after we would have quit anyway and it would have produced additional profit in the last 4 spins.
I forgot to reduce the bet on spin #27 after the win on #26.

Sorry about that.

-Celtic

'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

tuddilue

Quote from: denzie on Feb 23, 10:30 AM 2016
:.casino777.be 

Can you post the nrs? So we can have a look.

Me personally never play the first spin (11)
I wait 2-3 repeaters on 11-12-13. Then I go in. Didn't got close to busting. I'm already happy with some profit and I stop.

Tomorrow I'll post 100 sessions.   :thumbsup:
Some questions:,
Are you using +1/-1 progression after this?
What are your win goal?
When you loose how long do you proceed with the betting or do you just stop and take the loss?

denzie

Quote from: spartanrules on Feb 23, 11:29 AM 2016
Hi Denzie

I'll wait for 2-3 repeaters then and report back on the results from this.

With casino777 you playing one particular table Denzie.? Thanks

I use the french tables. No idea why though. They look pretty  :P
And of course you not need to place a bet to spin the wheel.
As spins roll off our predictions get better

denzie

Quote from: Celticknits on Feb 23, 01:18 PM 2016


Am I missing something? :question:

-Celtic

Nope . I missed. All those numbers can make a person start seeing things that not there.
As spins roll off our predictions get better

RouletteGhost

Puttin an offer on a house today

Lets see if KTF can pay my property taxes
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

denzie

Quote from: tuddilue on Feb 24, 05:14 AM 2016
Some questions:,
Are you using +1/-1 progression after this?
yep

What are your win goal?
As soon I'm in profit I reset


When you loose how long do you proceed with the betting or do you just stop and take the loss?

since I waited the repeaters didn't got a loss yet. But if I would have I would play till I'm almost back and stop there. There's no shame in losing a few units.


Btw I'm over 50 sessions for today now. I don't play them to the end. On a new high I reset. And I'm starting to see something very interesting here.... I'll post results later on today
As spins roll off our predictions get better

tuddilue

Quote from: denzie on Feb 24, 06:49 AM 2016
Btw I'm over 50 sessions for today now. I don't play them to the end. On a new high I reset. And I'm starting to see something very interesting here.... I'll post results later on today
Impressive!  That I'm looking forward to. It will be really interesting to see what you have found! A cliffhanger is always funny  :wink:

Celticknits

Quote from: denzie on Feb 24, 06:44 AM 2016
Nope . I missed. All those numbers can make a person start seeing things that not there.

I hear you, thanks for letting me know.

I was so worried that I maybe miscalculated something the other day when I played 3 sessions back to back.
Never again.

It was funny the other day when I went in and sat down with my paper tracker in hand one of the other players made a comment that the biggest losers that he sees in roulette are the the ones playing a system and writing everything down. Another regular player told him that he did not know what I was doing but I always showed a profit.

Later after making $37 and stopping I got to talking to the guy and he asked what my system was.
I told him that I do not play a method or system but rather a betting strategy.
Anyone reading this that has read the 80 pages on GUT will know that Winkel has always said this several times.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

RouletteGhost

Celtic since you play on airball having to deal with no pitboss or dealer is nice isnt it
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

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