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Started by nottophammer, Jan 30, 11:56 AM 2016

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Azim

Quote from: Tacwell on Feb 27, 12:07 AM 2016
£40 - £49 is nowhere near doubling his bankroll and by no means GREEDY. Not in my world anyway.

Sorry I stand corrected.  However do the math 9pounds for 5pence is 180 unit's.
How many did you expect to make in that session? 

Requirement is 400 units so I give you you had 800 unit's the process is to stop after 50 unit's  u made 180 unit's what did you expect to make enough to go buy a house?
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

Celticknits

Quote from: Azim on Feb 27, 12:08 AM 2016
I know what the number's are.

For those that are following this thread.
Instead of starting from 0 0 let's say you walk to the table in this case we log in online.

We see the number's :

35 5 6 2 32
36 9 28 16 0 15 16 0 6 11
31 14 34 30 4 15 24 9 18 6
24 9 0 22 8 1 12 8 14 22
32 11 28 16 2 2 32 11 32 27

Do the charting and see how you would have played that session.

I  would have played KTF for the first 10 spins and quit at $50 profit and then bet for repeaters for 3 wins and another $70 profit.
Leave with total session profit of $120 in 15 spins.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

joiner29

Sorry you think I was greedy I played as per the rules as I see them 40- 50 unit win then leave that is £2-£2.50 win s wow so greedy

nottophammer

Jackpot247.com 27.2.16  KTF  +£50 #31
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

Quote from: Celticknits on Feb 26, 11:55 PM 2016
-Gator

What you say is true for that particular session.
Some things are constant in all my sessions and some are not.
Compare the session sheet you are referring to to the one in Post #335
In that session I started betting at spin #16.

Constant:
1. Playing for repeats to hit. (THIS IS NOT PLAYING THE KTF WAY)
2. Progression is normally +1/-1 (see below)
3. Any hit numbers are removed

Variables
1. Entry point to start betting - This is the toughest part of this and is based on Winkels GUT strategy, Nottos avg sheets, LOTT, and the explanations of these in the posts of Winkel, Azim, TwoCatsSam and Nottophammer. This has to be learned and I am by no means at a level of competencancy comparable to the above mentioned people but I do quite well and just keep moving forward.

2. If the progression is high, say at the seventh or eighth level, and I win a spin I may drop the progression right back to the 1st level if a new high is hit. Because the overall stakes are lower than KTF but the win amount is the same, it is possible to actually lose 3 spins in a row and be at a new high with a win on the next spin.

I hope this helps answer your question.

-Celtic

Celts
its getting interesting, keep going, we are all interested,those 0X's then 1X's ain't they good
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Celticknits

Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 27, 04:15 AM 2016
Celts
its getting interesting, keep going, we are all interested,those 0X's then 1X's ain't they good

Could have played todays JJ numbers the same way but after winning on KTF I would have waited until spin#18 to go after the repeats

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

denzie

Oooooowkay , back on topic.
This is probably one of the best method I've seen here. It's unbelievable how it keeps winning. And with progression and all those numbers.

:thumbsup:
As spins roll off our predictions get better

nottophammer

Jackpot247.com 28.2.16   KTF +53  #27

37th spin is 24th non-hit, if you now bet those 24,1X's, win, bet the 23,1X's,win, bet the 22,1X's win  +39

Early days with this,but looks good.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

denzie

Some info ;
Betting on spin 11 ONLY for a unhit.
On 1400 rng sessions

Wins : 1080
Loss : 317

(Let's say a win is +9 and a loss is -28 on average )
As spins roll off our predictions get better

wiggy

Quote from: denzie on Feb 28, 08:39 AM 2016
Some info ;
Betting on spin 11 ONLY for a unhit.
On 1400 rng sessions

Wins : 1080
Loss : 317

(Let's say a win is +9 and a loss is -28 on average )

Not bad Denzie....roughly +0.6 of a unit every 11 spins is nothing to be sniffed at if it continues to hold up.
"You can lead a human to intelligence, but you can't make him think''

nottophammer

This from the avg doc, betting for the 11th non-hit, 65 games, win 51 1st spin,most spins todate 4 spins
11
1
1
1
1
1
1
2
1
1
1
1
3
1
2
1
1
1
1
1
1
1



3
1
2
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
2
3
1
1
1
1
3
1
4
1
1
1
1



1
3
1
1
2
3
1
1
2
1
1
1
2
1






65

4

1.338462

11

51
7
6
1
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

denzie

Quote from: wiggy on Feb 28, 09:05 AM 2016
Not bad Denzie....roughly +0.6 of a unit every 11 spins is nothing to be sniffed at if it continues to hold up.
If if if .... that's the million dollar question.

It's not every 11th spin though. I start a session with 10 virtual spins. Then bet on spin 11. Win or lose I keep clicking till spin 37 and do it again and again and. .... or simply refresh the session. So of course this is for rng only . Just thought I mention it ...maybe someone can help with rx ?  :)
As spins roll off our predictions get better

denzie

Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 28, 09:07 AM 2016
This from the avg doc, betting for the 11th non-hit, 65 games, win 51 1st spin,most spins todate 4 spins
11
1
1
1
1
1
1
2
1
1
1
1
3
1
2
1
1
1
1
1
1
1



3
1
2
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
2
3
1
1
1
1
3
1
4
1
1
1
1



1
3
1
1
2
3
1
1
2
1
1
1
2
1






65

4

1.338462

11

51
7
6
1


That's around + 100 flat betting
As spins roll off our predictions get better

wiggy

Quote from: denzie on Feb 28, 09:12 AM 2016


It's not every 11th spin though. I start a session with 10 virtual spins. Then bet on spin 11. Win or lose I keep clicking till spin 37 and do it again and again and. ....


Cheers Denzie.....kind of like allowing the cycle to reset itself. That's interesting, I suppose you could decide not to bet if their were too many repeats in the first 10 spins. Could be an indicator that the repeats are too 'hot'. Alternatively....10 straight uniques and it's maybe a good sign.

"You can lead a human to intelligence, but you can't make him think''

denzie

Quote from: wiggy on Feb 28, 09:24 AM 2016
Cheers Denzie.....kind of like allowing the cycle to reset itself. That's interesting, I suppose you could decide not to bet if their were too many repeats in the first 10 spins. Could be an indicator that the repeats are too 'hot'. Alternatively....10 straight uniques and it's maybe a good sign.

Yep, it's about those cycles.  But it's probably just coz my feeling tell me to play that way .

About those repeaters. ..if we get 8 -9-10 non-hits in our 10 spins...it doesn't make much difference. I've tested that too. But at the end 9 non-hit came out as the winner.

Of course it needs much more testing. After all. ...what is 1000 or 10000 spins in roulette?  We've seen many systems crash after that many spins.
As spins roll off our predictions get better

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