KTF

[tuddilue]

Wont be around for a while
Good luck

I just want to say that I'm really thankful to you and I have learned alot with both KTF and WTF. My roulette game have improved alot.

Now I'm learning the gut. I have come so long that I'm using it now. Really funny.

Hope you will have it good!

[RouletteGhost]

Wont be around for a while
Good luck

you will be missed buddy

[Gzgzbee]

Just notice do we not bet on 0 using KFT?

Thanks

[tuddilue]

Just notice do we not bet on 0 using KFT?

Thanks

Yes we bet it if it is an unhit.
You are welcome

[Gzgzbee]

Would some have a quick look at the attached!?

Done a test game on Sky Vagas low stakes roulette (RNG)

Would have won +34 or + 16 I kept playing.

Just wondering if I was doing it right.

Thanks

[tuddilue]

Would some have a quick look at the attached!?

Done a test game on Sky Vagas low stakes roulette (RNG)

Would have won +34 or + 16 I kept playing.

Just wondering if I was doing it right.

Thanks

Yes that looks correct.
You had:
1-10 9 (24 unhits until spin 40)
11-20 8+3
21-30 3-2
31-40 5+0
Unhits so far is 25 so that is average so that is good.
Now I assume that the last 3 should be unhits. But you did not collect them...

[Gzgzbee]

Thanks for the reply!

Just wondering where would you have stopped as I got to +34 (which is good but only of the +50/60 target)

soo I would have carried on which then I had a few ups and done but got +16

But then would you stop at +16!?

Thanks

[tuddilue]

Thanks for the reply!

Just wondering where would you have stopped as I got to +34 (which is good but only of the +50/60 target)

soo I would have carried on which then I had a few ups and done but got +16

But then would you stop at +16!?

Thanks

No problem.  I or someone else always replies.

Yes I would have stopped at +16. Why? Because you where standing at 22 unhit and in the beginning you calculated that you should have 24 before ending.

Then it is easy to start a new game so a small loss or like in your case a small win. I should have been satisfied with that..

[Celticknits]

Would some have a quick look at the attached!?

Done a test game on Sky Vagas low stakes roulette (RNG)

Would have won +34 or + 16 I kept playing.

Just wondering if I was doing it right.

Thanks

-GzGzbee

Please do not take my comments the wrong way I am only trying to help.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but your tracking sheet is a mess.

To start look at your stake amount at bet 11.
The only way you can have 29 is if you are adding the original 0 back on.
That is fine and how I play but by adding it back in that would mean that spins 11 1nd 12 would both have been winners.
That aside look at your stake amount on bet 12 -- why did you not reduce the stake amount for the win?
In short You need to work on your tracking sheet skills on that sheet.

Had you not added the 0 back in you would have still won +39 and should quit at spin 20

I suggest you redo the tracking sheet to understand what I am saying.

Assuming you added the original hit 0 back on the payout sheet would look like this:
NOTE: The Win/Stop on a Euro wheel playing KTF has always been +40 to +50

-Celtic

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GZGZBEE   1MAY16
KTF (ADDING 0 BACK IN FROM ORIGINAL NUMBERS)
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 19
2 11
3 34
4 13
5 0
6 6
7 3
8 34 R1
9 2
10 17 9/10
11 25 29 1 29 36 7 8
12 0 28 1 28 36 8 16
13 0 R2 27 1 27 -27 -11
14 9 27 2 54 72 18 7
15 27 26 1 26 36 10 17
16 33 25 1 25 36 11 28
17 8 24 1 24 36 12 40  ----   WIN/STOP REACHED SO QUIT
18 35 23 1 23 36 13 53
19 29 22 1 22 36 14 67
20 16 21 1 21 36 15 82
21 13 R1 20 1 20 -20 62
22 33 R1 20 2 40 -40 22
23 3 R1 20 3 60 -60 -38
24 33 R2 20 4 80 -80 -118
25 10 19 5 95 180 85 -33
26 18 18 4 72 144 72 39
27 13 R2 18 3 54 -54 -15
28 8 R1 18 4 72 -72 -87
29 11 R1 18 5 90 -90 -177
30 30 17 6 102 216 114 -63
31 26 16 5 80 180 100 37
32 27 R1 16 4 64 -64 -27
33 23 15 5 75 180 105 78
34 30 R1 14 4 56 -56 22
35 16 R1 14 5 70 -70 -48
36 26 R1 14 6 84 -84 -132
37 29 R1 14 7 98 -98 -230


[Celticknits]

-GzGzbee

I screwed up some of the stake numbers near the end of the cycle.
I get lazy and do not always check everything in the numbers after I hit the Win/Stop level.
The sheet is the same up to spin 20 which you should have quit by anyways.
Sorry about that.

Here is the corrected sheet.

-Celtic

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GZGZBEE   1MAY16
KTF (ADDING 0 BACK IN FROM ORIGINAL NUMBERS)
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 19
2 11
3 34
4 13
5 0
6 6
7 3
8 34 R1
9 2
10 17 9/10
11 25 29 1 29 36 7 8
12 0 28 1 28 36 8 16
13 0 R2 27 1 27 -27 -11
14 9 27 2 54 72 18 7
15 27 26 1 26 36 10 17
16 33 25 1 25 36 11 28
17 8 24 1 24 36 12 40   ---   WIN/STOP REACHED SO QUIT!!!
18 35 23 1 23 36 13 53
19 29 22 1 22 36 14 67
20 16 21 1 21 36 15 82
21 13 R1 20 1 20 -20 62
22 33 R1 20 2 40 -40 22
23 3 R1 20 3 60 -60 -38
24 33 R2 20 4 80 -80 -118
25 10 20 5 100 180 80 -38
26 18 19 4 76 144 68 30
27 13 R2 18 3 54 -54 -24
28 8 R1 18 4 72 -72 -96
29 11 R1 18 5 90 -90 -186
30 30 18 6 108 216 108 -78
31 26 17 5 85 180 95 17
32 27 R1 16 4 64 -64 -47
33 23 16 5 80 180 100 53
34 30 R1 15 4 60 -60 -7
35 16 R1 15 5 75 -75 -82
36 26 R1 15 6 90 -90 -172
37 29 R1 15 7 105 -105 -277


[tuddilue]

-GzGzbee

Please do not take my comments the wrong way I am only trying to help.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but your tracking sheet is a mess.

...
-Celtic
...

Thanks Celticknits!
I just looked at the average and did not study the sheet in detail, sorry. Next time I be more   accurate.
- Tuddilue

[Celticknits]

Thanks Celticknits!
I just looked at the average and did not study the sheet in detail, sorry. Next time I be more   accurate.
- Tuddilue

-Tuddilue

Not a problem my friend.
Hey look I screwed up the initial payout sheet after the Win/Stop was reached and reposted the correction.
Because of all the sheets I do for other people I get kinda lazy sometimes and do not always check the numbers AFTER I hit the Win/Stop.

-Celtic

[Gzgzbee]

- Celtic/Tuddi

Thank you for your help and advice! Not sure why I had 29  as didn't cover the 0 anyway as it was hit in the first 10spins!

Think I may have had a unit on red/black when I was generating system and pressed repeat or something.

I did notice I had 11 @ 29 and 12 @ 27 but could work it out thou.

Think the hardest part is knowing when to stop!!

Thanks for your help you!

[JSG240592]

I don't think this system is very good. You'd be better off just playing one spin at a time:- Open your roulette game and play 27 out of 37 numbers. play one spin and whether win or lose you leave the table and spin again another day. you could do this once an hour or once a day. You need to hit 3 out of 4 spins to be even. you have a 73% chance of winning each individual spin. The odds are very much in your favour if you spin one spin at a time. When you stay for prolonged periods at the roulette table then that is when the house edge starts to have an effect.

Lets enter the table and play 14 numbers for 1 spin and 1 spin only, we have a 38% chance of hitting our number so 1 in every 2.5 spins we should hit a win. lets make it easier and say 2 out of 5 spins we should hit a win. We only ever play 14 numbers and we only play 1spin each session.


Don't play against the table play against the wheel.

[Gzgzbee]

01.05.2016 - Skyvagas (RNG)

+25 @ spin 20!

Had 3 non hitter after spin 20 aswell but stopped at +25

Sheet attached.