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KTF

Started by nottophammer, Jan 30, 11:56 AM 2016

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Turner

Quote from: The General on Sep 10, 07:09 PM 2018Do you know of anyone that would be brave enough to play in a challenge against me here in the US?



To be serious for one minute, I havnt got a clue what KTF is. I have never looked at it or understood it


It (and GUT) look far too complex for me. I think there are much more fundamental and simple things to look at.

Taotie


Turner

Quote from: Taotie on Sep 11, 06:07 AM 2018


Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner

Still

Quote from: The General on Sep 10, 06:12 PM 2018


The KFC will perform the same regardless of how it's played.

That's right.  Just like a franchise, you will get the same thing, even in North Carolina, South Carolina, or Virginia...unless...unless you are too scared to meet me there.   Your challenge includes airfair and hotel right?

wiggy

Quote from: Turner on Sep 11, 06:06 AM 2018


To be serious for one minute, I havnt got a clue what KTF is. I have never looked at it or understood it


It (and GUT) look far too complex for me. I think there are much more fundamental and simple things to look at.

Exactly right! I ripped the casino a new asshole tonight and I didn't stop to think about LOTT, KTF, ROTT or any other acronym under the sun (no offence)… Just good old common sense, you either win the next spin or not should you decide to bet.
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It really doesn't have to be complicated, not at all!!
"You can lead a human to intelligence, but you can't make him think''

Turner

Quote from: wiggy on Sep 11, 08:15 PM 2018
Exactly right! I ripped the casino a new asshole tonight and I didn't stop to think about LOTT, KTF, ROTT or any other acronym under the sun (no offence)… Just good old common sense, you either win the next spin or not should you decide to bet.
36
22
28
13
16
30
29
15
23
29
13
12
25 col a
4 col a
19 col a
19 col a (repeat)
11
28
31
27 col c
6 col c
24 col c
6 col c (repeat)
21 col c
18col c
21 col c (repeat)
25
18 col c (repeat)
30 col c
31
30 col c (repeat)
11
2

It really doesn't have to be complicated, not at all!!
Cheers Wiggy

as you saw....I agree

Not calling anything Notto or Proff.Winkel post, but its a game that pays out unfairly and the less we have to think about and the less paper and pencils at the table (assuming we can get to the table) the better. My advice after all this study after all these years is economy. Strive for economy in your ideas as a goal to approach the table.

Mistakes will cost, and the simpler the idea, the less mistakes can be made.

The General

Quote from: Still on Sep 11, 07:47 PM 2018
That's right.  Just like a franchise, you will get the same thing, even in North Carolina, South Carolina, or Virginia...unless...unless you are too scared to meet me there.   Your challenge includes airfair and hotel right?

Still,

You're down in that region huh?  And you want to challenge?  Are you KTF player too?


QuoteExactly right! I ripped the casino a new asshole tonight and I didn't stop to think about LOTT, KTF, ROTT or any other acronym under the sun (no offence)… Just good old common sense, you either win the next spin or not should you decide to bet.



Good job Wiggy!
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Still

Quote from: The General on Sep 11, 10:25 PM 2018
Still,

You're down in that region huh?  And you want to challenge?  Are you KTF player too?




Uh, sure, um...I can meet you in North Carolina in like two days.    (mumble...airfair, hotel room...mumble mumble).   :twisted:

The General

Quote from: Still on Sep 11, 10:46 PM 2018
Uh, sure, um...I can meet you in North Carolina in like two days.    (mumble...airfair, hotel room...mumble mumble).   :twisted:

How about farther north?  NY...AC..Penn?
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Bigbroben

Aint there a crazy hurricane rushing in on the East coast? Wheel will spin like never before!
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Still

Quote from: The General on Sep 11, 10:47 PM 2018
How about farther north?  NY...AC..Penn?

Don't believe BigBroBen.  There's no hurricane bout to hit N.C.   See you there two days!  :twisted:

The General

Where in two days?
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Taotie

General,
Fly to Sydney, Australia and I'll kick your ass, guaranteed.

I don't play KTF though.

Still

Quote from: The General on Sep 11, 11:08 PM 2018
Where in two days?

Where the big huge hurricane is about to hit. 

Uh, North Carolina. 

Still

Quote from: Still on Sep 12, 12:14 AM 2018
Where the big huge hurricane is about to hit. 

Uh, North Carolina.

No don't go there.  I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you!   >:D

But seriously, no, i'm not one of the faithful, so i could not answer a challenge.  Faith, from a deeply philosophical point of view, is actually a sin...maybe even the biggest.  And the anti-dote to faith is knowledge.

  I agree we need more programmers.  In the eighties, there was a European family, Spanish i think, that was using a 16 bit computer to measure whether a wheel was tilted or not.   They would feed collected spin data into some formula, the patriarch of the family was the programmer.  They were finally  banished from Europe and busted in Las Vegas.  Europe became suspicious when they would not act like most other gamblers, giving tips to the dealers.  I think one dealer got miffed and turned the eye in the sky on them.   There was a big argument in the family about giving tips, but the patriarch over-ruled everybody.  It all caught up to them in Vegas.   Undone because of greed. 

I don't yet have faith in KTF because of my initial tests of both KTF and anti-KTF (repeaters) against Excel's random generator, trying several ideas with about 50k spins each.  I only measured up to 40 spins thinking the effect of watching the first ten spins go by could not possibly have an effect beyond 40, that is, 30 live spins after watching the first 10.   The worst thing that can happen is the results be random, with no perceivable bias to either side, in any tested circumstance.   

So if it wins, how it wins, i do not KNOW (must be knowledge, not faith).   

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