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Started by nottophammer, Jan 30, 11:56 AM 2016

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Mister Eko

Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 06, 05:49 PM 2018
Mister Eko

When i use to play KTF just betting the non-hit after spin 10; as soon as a profit was made i moved to a new machine; 99% of my play is on FOBT's.

All I posted it for was to show how the larger group could give a 50; +50 profit quick.
Have you seen the average for repeats over the 40 spins its 1-3-5-7 and 30 repeats by spin 60 all shown in the non-hit time tables.

Can I know, that what does FOBT mean?

The 1 3 5 7 sequence is the avarage of repeaters in 40 spins, but not always will be so basic and balanced this 40 spins. Many times under testing I saw example 2 3 6 4 or 3 4 3 7 or 3 2 5 5 occasions.

Maybe thats because I played session after session immadiately, so I did not waited fresh 10, possibly 20 spins after one session to jist refresh the numbers and the table.

Is this happening? Refreshing the table?

My main question: Have I wait fresh spins after one session or its okey to play immediately and coint back 10 numbers?

Thanks for the answer.

Eko

nottophammer

Quote from: jono1167 on Dec 06, 06:15 PM 2018Taking first profit is interesting. Assuming you don't have any repeats, that would mean taking 7, 8 or 9 units of profit. A very conservative approach.

Yes Jono; but that approach on the generals posted numbers, wins.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

jono1167

Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 06, 06:24 PM 2018
Mister Eko
I just played these #'s on MPR, downtown and hogly are on as well.

These are for the 1 repeat in 1st 10 spins


So you see the 9/10 happened

The perfect game Notto.... Always good when they happen!

nottophammer

Yes Jono, even better when on the Generals gold standard THE MPR.



The above is what you have to work with. This is from the Generals posted spins.
Average to hit is same in the time tables; it's each non-hit's max spin to bare in mind.



1000 games and the average to hit is same. Look at 11th non-hit Generals is max 4 small data base, but jackpot 1000 game the 11th non-hit is max 5

So if you play a watching game and see the 11th non-hit has missed for 2 spins, as Winkel say's it's decision time; look back have you had repeats before these 2 repeats, remember 9/10 that should be 1 repeat and 3 more expected in spins 11-20 and then how many spins could you bet 27 #'s with your bank roll?

It's a thinking game, just take what you know with you.

But expect to hear there's just 1 pocket to0 many and 1/37
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

jono1167

Quote from: Mister Eko on Dec 06, 06:25 PM 2018
Can I know, that what does FOBT mean?

The 1 3 5 7 sequence is the avarage of repeaters in 40 spins, but not always will be so basic and balanced this 40 spins. Many times under testing I saw example 2 3 6 4 or 3 4 3 7 or 3 2 5 5 occasions.

Maybe thats because I played session after session immadiately, so I did not waited fresh 10, possibly 20 spins after one session to jist refresh the numbers and the table.

Is this happening? Refreshing the table?

My main question: Have I wait fresh spins after one session or its okey to play immediately and coint back 10 numbers?

Thanks for the answer.

Eko

Eko. I think FOBT is a 'fixed odds betting terminal'. Its like a poker machine that lets you play roulette.

I only play one or two sessions a day. I never play continuously. Theoretically counting back 10 numbers shouldn't matter. However, I would do whatever Notto suggests. 

Mister Eko

Okey, I had I think a little bit better results with fresh 10 spins.

But I am curious how Notto plays this system. A saw her papercards was writen 1-10 9\10 10-21 etc . I know that these are avarages and 1 3 5 7 avarages in 10 spinc cycles in 40 spins but how you manage the sessions Notto via based on these informations?

Can you pleaase post one full explained little gameplay, how you play exactly?

MrEko

nottophammer

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18360.0

Mr E

Do some homework; the above will help
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Mister Eko

Thanks, I finished reading the whole topic, it was very informative, but I have some questions if you alowe.

1. So we expected to see in 1-10 spins 1 repeat, and 9 non-hits. In 11-20 we expected to see ( based on only avarages ) 3 repeats and 7 non hits, am I right? In 21-30 5 repeats and 5 non hits and in 31-40 7 repeats and only 3 non hits?


2. If I read well, why are your sheets shows 7+2 in 11-20 section? We expected to see 7 non hits in section 11-20 not 5, hasnt we ? Why is +2?

3. So what is the 11-40 5-5-5 exactly?

Bigbroben

Quote from: Mister Eko on Dec 07, 01:05 PM 2018
2. If I read well, why are your sheets shows 7+2 in 11-20 section? We expected to see 7 non hits in section 11-20 not 5, hasnt we ? Why is +2?
3. So what is the 11-40 5-5-5 exactly?

I think the 5-5-5 was the 15 repeats splitted equally in the 30 spins from 11-40.  Correct me if I'm wrong, Notto, but I think the sheet was created to show the difference between the average 5-5-5 and the hits per 10-spin slices.
Since then, it was realized the averages were more like 3-5-7 from 11 to 40.  My guess is the sheet dates a bit and could be updated.
Life is hard, and then you die.
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Mister Eko

Thanks man, so I thought well  :thumbsup:

Also I played my first game, +26 units.

Here is the picture.

I expected t o see 1-3-5-7 repeats ( R ), and 9-7-5-3 non-hits in 10 spin sequences from 1 to 40.

I had in first 10 8/10, I later wrote a little bit different than you, but you will udnerstand perfectly I think, Notto mate. I bet only twice, but I felt t hat I would 2 or 3 times , but it was my first game only in RX and I did not dare. I marked with *, when I did betting (after number 7 -> for repeaters, because I expected to see 2 more repeats in 4 spins. First no hit, no needed progression, so flatbet, secondly win +10. Second bet was in fourth ( last ) stage of the gameplay (31-40 ) , I bet repeaters too, after number 30, because I expected to see only 2 more non-hits in 9 spins, so 7 repeaters. Firstly win, +16, summarize this session was for me +26 units. My bankroll is 200, so my stoploss is 200 too. A little bit short was the winnings, but it was so easy to follow, and I hope if only every cycle of 40 spins (session) would be such avarage, and post avarage repeats and non-hits in every 10 spin, and easy, like this.

I like this managering our gameplays. Like in football match. You are your own team manager, and if you only have one playing style against thousands of tactics (in roulette situations) you will definitely lose I think. We must manage every session, gameplays based on the situations what roulette gives us in every cycle.

A little bit problem can be at playing online example with live dealer, or at casino on airball, that we must decide very very quickly, and maybe we wont have time to bet all numbers, what we want.

*My other question is that what is the aavrage sessions of 40 spin cycles, what give us the same avarage numbers of repeats and non hits  in 10 spin sequences? So example from 100 gameplays how much add this avarage numebrs in 40 spin cycles (10-20-30-40) ?*

Am I did well, or something opinion about it masters ( Notto + others ) ? :)

MR.EKO

Mister Eko

Here is the #1 session

Mister Eko

My second session.
+55 units.

Avarages 10/9, 2/-1, 5/+0, 7/+0. 15 repeats 25 non hits in 40 spins, still good avarage, perfect game.

I were betting 5 times now. Firstly at spin 17 I went for non hits, cause I expected to see one more in last 3 spins. I sant to bet after number 24, but I forgot, my mistake, dont care, hit firstly. Second time I bet at spin 21, because in 1-20 I saw only 3 repeats. My progression was +1 up if lose, win on third spin, so I was only +0, overall +14. I bet immediately for repwat, because I rhought they will come, and I had right, win in first spin., than 2 more R come, and the last was R too. Fourth bet was at spin 31, I still wanted repeaters, in the last stage I expected to see 8 Rs, and only 2 non hits, so this was the right times to catch up Rs, especially wen first spin was non hit. The right decision was to bet for R. Win in first spin. The I wait two spins, and I exp to see another Rs. And comed for me. Another one winning in first spin. Ending with +55 units.

Thanks.

nottophammer

Mr E
Can you type the #'s and i'll show you a bit more to help watch the TROT
I got
19
9
0
1
0
16
not sure next number; typed would help :thumbsup:
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Mister Eko

3 29 16 15 ;)

Mister Eko

Anyway session #3.
+77 units  :o

See the attachment. Atart with 1R and 9N, than only +1R at spin 14. I decided to go one R after another 3 non hits, [ maybe in the start of the game we had to go for non hits?  :question: ... ) .. so in spin 17 I had only 2 R ,i expectsd to see in last 3 spins another R. My progression was if lose +1, I won at spin 3, +18 units. Second bet in stage 3after one repeat and one non hit, I definitely went flr more R. And see: they came. 5 in a row! Then I expected to see one non hits after 6 Rs , so bet on non hits, and wow, another win at first spin. In the last stage I exp to see 5R and 5N. The first 6 spin was 4R and 2N , so I definitely went for non hits based on last 16 spin was 12. Repeat and only 4 non hitsy and I waited in last 4 spins one non hit number. Second spin won. I finished the session with +77 units.

3 session/3 win = +158 units.

Thanks for watching.

One question to Notto. Is these avarages works only for RNG? In b and m or in airball doesnt?? Thanms very much fkr the answer and for everything mate. Can I send you an email?🙄:)

MrE

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