37 back to basics

[Bigbroben]

All numbers are equal, but some are more equal than others.

[bigmoney]

its amazing how the 37 spun cycle can be so different in numbers that are hit and sometimes it just gpes out of balance

[Bigbroben]

So the tracker version I shared a few weeks ago that had the two wheel layouts was full of bugs.  Please print it and run it through the shredder.

Here is a better version that offers the 3 layouts (board, euro, amer).
A new sheet gives the option to track the nrs on a rolling basis.  Choose any span you want.

There are no stats calculated on that one, though.  If anybody needs a specific stat to be calculated, please send your demand to:

Satan Claus,
North Pole,
H0H 0H0

[bigmoney]

gees its tough to make consistant profits outta this

[6th-sense]

thought  i would put Irish 88 post here ..hope you don,t mind..

Thank you Proof. I have been referring back to the 37 back to basics thread where 6-th sense made so many great points. If you are looking at Ayks tracker at the end of a cycle(37 spins) you will notice that there is never 12 unhit numbers in a row whether it's the table layout or wheel lay out. It can't happen. I have gone back and forth 100 times if it's the wheel or table and to be honest I don't know. Let's focus on the table for now.

According to Vaddi and 6-th sense numbers have 3 states.

No hits
Singles
Doubles

Average per cycle
No hits 13
Singles 12
Doubles 12

Vaddi says you can't catch every double. But by incorporating the pair number you can catch other singles coming out.

According to Ayks tracker, what happens? Singles become pairs, pairs become triple or quadruple. So by working in a smaller concentrated area(dozens) maybe you will catch the numbers as they repeat or expand to other numbers.

[Irish88]

thought  i would put Irish 88 post here ..hope you don,t mind..

6-th, I have been trying to steer other people to this thread. Thank you for all the great info you have put out there. I am trying to get it connected. Not sure if I am on the right path but thank you again. Probably the most informative thread on this site or any roulette site to be honest.

[6th-sense]

Heres a bit of food for thought...every spin is the start of a new 37 cycle beyond that spin..
ive explained the mechanics on the Gambling forum site that shows this is true..no one can deny it on a rolling a 37 spin tracker...
how far does this mechanics go?
is everything a cycle?
is everything on average a third?
say 1st 12 numbers out would you expect 4 repeats of this twelve at the end of a cycle?
say 1st 9 numbers are out would you expect a third to repeat at the end of a cycle?
when does this start and stop?
does it ever stop and blend into some part overlapping another cycle that has begun in the 37 spin time frame?..
these are just thoughts in the air..not a system...

[Bigbroben]

As the nrs are out, different blocks of different size are created.  The tuff part is to know when to play hits, when to play unhit neighbours.

As opposed to dividing the nrs in 3 dozens, maybe it could be seperated as: hits, pair-, pair+.

[Firefox]

Heres a bit of food for thought...every spin is the start of a new 37 cycle beyond that spin..
ive explained the mechanics on the Gambling forum site that shows this is true..no one can deny it on a rolling a 37 spin tracker...
how far does this mechanics go?
is everything a cycle?
is everything on average a third?
say 1st 12 numbers out would you expect 4 repeats of this twelve at the end of a cycle?
say 1st 9 numbers are out would you expect a third to repeat at the end of a cycle?
when does this start and stop?
does it ever stop and blend into some part overlapping another cycle that has begun in the 37 spin time frame?..
these are just thoughts in the air..not a system...

Welcome to the world of random numbers. Yes each new spin starts a new rolling cycle of 37 spins. It also starts a new rolling cycle of n spins, where n is any integer you care to mention.

One thing you can be sure of is that the last cycle of 37 (n) spins has any certain bearing on the next cycle of 37 (n) spins. Sometimes it may appear to, sometimes it wont, sometimes it will predict exactly the opposite, sometimes that trend will disappear for 100's of spins ... and then come back when you least expect it.

This unfortunately means that the concepts of thirds, triggers, hypothetical bets, repeaters, hot numbers, sleepers etc etc have no practical use at all 

[Mako]

Irish has good thoughts about all of it, sees the game in a unique way.  Good job and keep brainstorming!

Firefox: If I were to tell you that a few different people in this very thread have been playing a couple different methods based on what's been explained within...and winning...for nearly a year...with their BRs getting high enough that even weeks worth of suddenly losing wouldn't erase them, wouldn't you be curious as to whether what they've derived from it is "real"?

Not saying it's anything more than a fantastic lucky streak, or that they're the 2 people out of 100 that exit the casino with 10x their BR ala the fallacy test...but am saying that it's worth examining. 

[The General]

Firefox: If I were to tell you that a few different people in this very thread have been playing a couple different methods based on what's been explained within...and winning...for nearly a year...with their BRs getting high enough that even weeks worth of suddenly losing wouldn't erase them, wouldn't you be curious as to whether what they've derived from it is "real"?

Not saying it's anything more than a fantastic lucky streak, or that they're the 2 people out of 100 that exit the casino with 10x their BR ala the fallacy test...but am saying that it's worth examining. 

I would say the proof of concept isn't there.  So consequently I would learn towards saying that the following may be true...
1. Their testing is faulty
2. They haven't tested a statistically relevant number of trials.
3. The online simulation being played like RS isn't up to par.
4. Some may be exaggerating their success.

[Mako]

I would say the proof of concept isn't there.  So consequently I would learn towards saying that the following may be true...
1. Their testing is faulty
2. They haven't tested a statistically relevant number of trials.
3. The online simulation being played like RS isn't up to par.
4. Some may be exaggerating their success.

All of which may be true, agree. 

In my particular case that I mentioned, For 3 and 4, their results are their bank accounts, not sims or funny money, and I've seen live logins using video via me on the skype call, which is about as good as I can do. 

If someone is going through the trouble to manipulate video images, on skype, and they're not selling or monetizing it in any way, hey, more power to you buddy because that's next-level time-wasting...

[Bigbroben]

These people, they play flat or use progressions?

[Bigbroben]

Cuz you can escape for a thousand days with progs, but once Waterloo comes around...

[Mako]

Cuz you can escape for a thousand days with progs, but once Waterloo comes around...

Both use progressions.  Nothing close to Martingale, and one of them is a positive progression only. 

They could both have their "Waterloo" event happen 10 times in a row, and would still be up, because their worst case session would only set their BR back about -10%.

Have never had anyone verify their earnings to me who bet flat.  Have had people claim they do, but never showed off a casino bank roll over time gaining, or anything close to that level.