37 back to basics

[Irish88]

next picture is the next 9 spin results out...you can be guided by the spin number in the blocks
the precise time they came out
now i would like to do a pictiure of one spin at a time to show you what is happening but it,ll
too long and thats 28 pictures editing and cropping

ok next 9 numbers out..

now you can see that 25 has been added to the double 25/26 maiking it a triple
you can also see that 12 is added to 11 making it a double
you can see 17 added to 18/19 making it a triple
you can see 8 making 7/9 into a triple
you can also see 24 added to 25/26/27 making that into a four group
very 1st repeat is spin 17 with number 1
2nd repeat is spin 18 with number 25

ok how does this help us you may ask

if i could have done it step by step i would have..

this leaves us with 19 spins left.

we have 16 numbers out

there are 21 numbers not out


we have two repeats

out of that 21 numbers at least 6 more repeats should come

we think on average 24 numbers should show

we have 8 numbers left and 19 spins left

we have 21 numbers too choose from

by using statitstics ...singles become doubles //doubles become triples//

triples turn into fours ...fours into 5 etc on the linear line..ie 1 hit number line..

by using the statistics of how many doubles you have on average...how many unhit block

standalone spaces you should have on average you should be able to narrow those numbers

down with a better accuracy


remember this is all basic stuff


ok pic two shows next lot of spins out

you can evidently see at this point we have single numbers out

doubles out and triples out and fours out..

this is a bit like turbo one goes into 2 ..2..into 3..3..into 4..linear wise

using statistics with lots more samples will show the average

when to bet where and how

so this is the principle of back to basics

repeats will come later when you get over basic stuff

More great info

[Firefox]

There's no real "Waterloo event" to a positive progression. Unless you mean losing for a long period and not having a big hit, but it would occur over a fair time.

[6th-sense]

There's no real "Waterloo event" to a positive progression. Unless you mean losing for a long period and not having a big hit, but it would occur over a fair time.

Your right there is no big Waterloo event .as per se..there is only what actually happens per cycle...who says you need progression..I’ve not actually gave a system on this thread...
But..who says you can’t flatbet?
Who says you can’t win more than you lose IF you worked something out?

Vaddi cannot progress on his system with good reason ..
He wins more sessions than losing ones..
Whatever everyone thinks he’s doing is right there on ayks tracker.its only the interpretation of what he said isn’t plain and simple as he made it out to be

[Irish88]

last lot of numbers out now bringing it to 37 spins..notice how single standalone numbers turn into twos..threes etc knowing statitistcs and the empty block spaces maximum through statistics how would you use this to your advantage? knowing the least standalone numbers ..twos threes etc through statistics things must happen..at least most of the time...average numbers out are mainly 24..unhit numbers average 12...there will not be a 12 unhit empty blocks in arow..etc so this is balancing basic style..
how many members actually look at this?

Maybe we can use this info. What does it say? After 37 spins you only have two "stand alone" numbers. 27 and 29. The rest of the hit numbers are all connected somehow. Either repeats or pairs or extended pairs. Just to be clear I couldn't attach the pic of the cycle 6th was referring too. It on top of the 3rd page in this thread if someone wants to look.

[Irish88]

So maybe it is possible you don't bet anything until you get a pair, once you get a pair start betting on those two numbers. As other pairs come in bet on those as well as the other table neighbor numbers that come in. Example 7,8 have hit, you bet those, 9 comes in a few spins later you add 9.

If 7 and 9 have hit, do you bet the 8 even though it hasn't appeared? I don't know. Also with Vaddi he says to drop numbers. But if you go through the first couple pages here It doesn't  seem like you would drop numbers. It seems you  would stick with the pairs that have come out. As they eventually connect in a stream.  I could be completely wrong of course.

[buffalowizard]

So maybe it is possible you don't bet anything until you get a pair, once you get a pair start betting on those two numbers. As other pairs come in bet on those as well as the other table neighbor numbers that come in. Example 7,8 have hit, you bet those, 9 comes in a few spins later you add 9.

If 7 and 9 have hit, do you bet the 8 even though it hasn't appeared? I don't know. Also with Vaddi he says to drop numbers. But if you go through the first couple pages here It doesn't  seem like you would drop numbers. It seems you  would stick with the pairs that have come out. As they eventually connect in a stream.  I could be completely wrong of course.

I like the sound of this approach Irish. What I saw was that sometimes 2 or 3 mini streams of number sequences run simultaneously. You could bet on each and then drop the ones as and when they come in? Like this...

29       
6       
       21
       12
8       
17       
       1
       27
       19
       19
       12
28                  bet 27,28,29
11              bet 27,28,29,11,12
       14
       21
   0   
       30.     Bet 27,28,29,30,11,12
10                bet 27,28,29,30,10,11,12
       9.  Bet 27,28,29,30,9,10,11 12
       18.  27,28,29,30,9,10,11,12,17,18,19
       14
26     26,27,28,29,30,9,10,11,12,17,18,19
       9.  Win. Drop 9,10,11,12
       25. 28,29,,30,25,26,17,18,19
       21
       27.   Win. Drop 25,26,27,28,29,30
       21
       9
8              bet 8,9,17,18,19
4       
33       
2        bet 1,2,8,9,17,18,19
26       
-   -   -
-   -   -
       14
       1.   Win. Drop 1,2
15             bet 14,15,17,18,19

Hope this makes sense?

[buffalowizard]

Another test. Not bad at all. It is a matter of keeping track of all the 'streams' Once hit, I would close them down and not use them as triggers again. Maybe aim for 3 stream wins and then see if in profit?

13                      
6       
       14       BET 13,14
31       
17       
20       
       5         BET 5,6,13,14
33       
       27
11       
24       
11       
15                  BET 5,6,13,14,15
29       
   0   
       27
28                  BET 5,6,13,14,15,27,28,29
       7         BET 5,6,7,13,14,15,27,28,29
       9
35       
13                  WIN, DROP 13,14,15. BET 5,6,7,27,28,29
--   --   --
4                  BET  4,5,6,7,27,28,29
20       
       1
       16
29                  WIN, DROP 27,28,29. BET 4,5,6,7
       32      BET 4,5,6,7,31,32,33
22          
35       
6                  WIN, DROP 4,5,6,7. BET 31,32,33
       30      BET 30,31,32,33
       19      BET 19,20,30,31,32,33
       1
       34      BET 19,20,30,31,32,33,34,35
   0   
       36      BET 19,20,30,31,32,33,34,35,36 (ZERO AS WELL?)
       30      WIN. DROP 30,31,32,33,34,35,36. BET 19,20
--   --   --
4       
       30
24       
15                 BET 19,20,15,16
       16     WIN. DROP 15,16. BET 19,20
10                 BET 9,10,11,19,20

ETC.

[Irish88]

Another test. Not bad at all. It is a matter of keeping track of all the 'streams' Once hit, I would close them down and not use them as triggers again. Maybe aim for 3 stream wins and then see if in profit?

13                      
6       
       14       BET 13,14
31       
17       
20       
       5         BET 5,6,13,14
33       
       27
11       
24       
11       
15                  BET 5,6,13,14,15
29       
   0   
       27
28                  BET 5,6,13,14,15,27,28,29
       7         BET 5,6,7,13,14,15,27,28,29
       9
35       
13                  WIN, DROP 13,14,15. BET 5,6,7,27,28,29
--   --   --
4                  BET  4,5,6,7,27,28,29
20       
       1
       16
29                  WIN, DROP 27,28,29. BET 4,5,6,7
       32      BET 4,5,6,7,31,32,33
22          
35       
6                  WIN, DROP 4,5,6,7. BET 31,32,33
       30      BET 30,31,32,33
       19      BET 19,20,30,31,32,33
       1
       34      BET 19,20,30,31,32,33,34,35
   0   
       36      BET 19,20,30,31,32,33,34,35,36 (ZERO AS WELL?)
       30      WIN. DROP 30,31,32,33,34,35,36. BET 19,20
--   --   --
4       
       30
24       
15                 BET 19,20,15,16
       16     WIN. DROP 15,16. BET 19,20
10                 BET 9,10,11,19,20

ETC.

I think  you are very much on the right track. It looks good to me. The question  is when to drop and if you even do drop a set? Reset? How do you handle a repeat? And I noticed right at the beginning of your first test 29 and 27 hit. Do you then play 28? 28 hit in your first test. Seems like a lot of options. A lot to take in. But in my opinion on the right path. Remember guys have said they play up to 16 numbers even though Vaddi said 8.

Again so much great info on the first couple of pages of this thread.

[buffalowizard]

I think  you are very much on the right track. It looks good to me. The question  is when to drop and if you even do drop a set? Reset? How do you handle a repeat? And I noticed right at the beginning of your first test 29 and 27 hit. Do you then play 28? 28 hit in your first test. Seems like a lot of options. A lot to take in. But in my opinion on the right path. Remember guys have said they play up to 16 numbers even though Vaddi said 8.

Again so much great info on the first couple of pages of this thread.

The first test, 29 hit , followed by 27. Then when 28 hit, I bet all 3 because together they are a stream.
I agree. There are plenty of variables with this, only way is to test and repeat. Might try not dropping streams and simply wait for a win before retracking. Haven't even got onto the subject of progressions , if any at all!

[Mako]

You guys are doing some good work this week here and in the Vaddi main thread. 

Nice job BW and Irish, and thank you to Gordon for helpful the tips.

[Battler]

Say you put 37 numbers from a cycle in the tracker. You look from left to right, 0-36. In that line you will never see a gap of 12 numbers. 12 empty spaces in row...

So if we will never see a gap of 12 next to each other, what is the maximum observable gap in a 37 number cycle?

[Elite]

Great information  on this thread,  hope it will progress further giving valuable info, tq Sixth Sence

[bigmoney]

Im thinking we need a high performing autistic person to work this out

[6th-sense]

Just need to do a quick explanation of the mechanics of roulette even though this thread is only about one cycle...

You will never get 37 unique numbers out ever that 1st cycle will have to have at least one unhit and one repeat

The mechanics of roulette is simple..

At spin 37 unhit and repeat will be equally the same

Every spin beyond will add a difference of one repeat to unhit

Ie spin 38 the repeats will be one higher than unhits

Ie spin 39 the repeats will be 2 higher than unhits

Ie spin 40 the repeats will be 3 higher than unhits and so on

Take any number say spin 74 the repeats will be 37 higher than unhit count

The repeats ALWAYS go up further in relationship to the 1st cycle finishing and the spin count you look at

Now if roulette was truly random this shouldn’t be happening

This is the mechanics of roulette beyond 37 back to basics

[Frodo]

In 37 spins we will never see a GAP of 12 spaces between numbers.

Using 8 spins (any spin can be the start of another 37 cycle. Can we use this to our advantage?

looking at the table after 8 spins ( lets take a random set of :


looking at the 18-27 gap.

when doubles do not hit, singles do (vaddi)
doubles are not repeats, they are connected numbers 18-19  0-1 etc.